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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

▼ look here muntant

Oh right I guess I would have gotten some sort of message maybe although that seems unlikely.

I didn't get any notifications of any kind last night, and I'm not immune to roleblocks. Kinda confused what a roleblock would do to me anyway since it seems like my only ability is a reactive one (kill anyone who kills me).

I think it would be better to save peace and stick to the plan of you shooting diff. If shadow role blocks you it doesn't matter too much since diff can't infect anyone.

I was roleblocked last night. If I was patient zero, I couldn't infect anyone. Clearly, it's someone else and they don't work the same way peace does now.

According to Shadow, I was roleblocked last night. I received no messages or notifications. There's no contradiction. Try harder.

Onjit confirmed that infection is a night action. He said he'll pretty much always respond yes to prevent meta-ing on whether or not X is a thing that exists in the game. At that phase, we weren't 100% sure that infection existed and some people were using Onjit's "yes, it's a night action" to say "well look at that, infection does exist." Note that Onjit said the answer will pretty much always be yes. If the answer actually is no, he'll say no. Otherwise, why would he respond at all?

So again, I was roleblocked N1, and if I was P0 then P0's night action of infection would have been blocked, as it is indeed a night action that is blockable by actions that block night actions, as roleblocking is.

Literally none of your comment made any sense lol. If you're asking Shadow not to roleblock, you should be looking somewhere else for P0 since I was blocked the night that Peace was infected. That goes triple if you're finally accepting the possibility of P0 not working through votes.

Speaking of peace, he said his role completely changed while he was infected.

I was blocked N1. Unless I punch through roleblocks I couldn't have infected peace. Which means someone else did. Which means that there's a secondary infection vector. The only reason a secondary vector is on the table is because it couldn't have been me because I was blocked. Without that, there's literally no reason to believe such a thing exists.

Woah where are you pulling this nonsense that the vote infection isn't blockable? Nothing anywhere indicates that

Peace's whole thing against me is that he voted for me and was infected the next day. He honestly has no idea how he got infected, but he guesses it's the same as him. He says at night he can choose to infect anyone who voted for him. It does not say it's unblockable. If there's a secondary vector there's less reason to believe I'm the source. Because at that point you've completely lost yourself in the middle of a "Diff used a secondary ability to infect the person who voted for him all while punching through a roleblocks and btw he's immune to nightkills too" spaghettified mess.

If I didn't believe you weren't town I'd tell you to take a step back and rebuild from the beginning but as near as I can tell you're just trying to confuse things as much as you can on your way out.

He didnt seem unsure at all. No 'um' or 'I think' about you having infected him at all.

Because he's basing it all on his limited info. I was blocked that night. Infection counts as a night action. If infection can be done without a vote, there's literally no reason to suspect me. Peace is the only reason, and his info is extremely limited.

Even now, we have no idea if infection is automatic or a choice. If it's limited to one person or many. Peace should know all of that.

Read my last post for your citation again.

And idk how Peace's role was but I don't appear to have a limit on the number of people I can infect. I'd be a bit surprised if he worked differently though. It's not a night action. I mean it is, but not !infect person. It's not a command it's just an action that happens to anyone who voted for me. I have no actions I can go out and perform, I'm just addicted to votes. Only difference from my underlings is that I don't die if I don't get my fix.

Reason I singled out Zelda is because he's the only person who truly has no win condition right now. There's no physically possible combination of actions that let him fulfill his wincon. Another two have no hope of winning but strictly speaking your wincon is not physically impossible.

I have no night actions. I automatically infect everyone. N1 I sent in no night actions, tonight I'll be sending in no night actions.

I wasn't lying, as near as I can tell I automatically infect everyone who votes for me.

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

how tf do i need to know what onjits mechanics are of i forgot to do an action what if there is a time manipulator role?

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

i mean what the **** guys its after all an closed setup

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

yeah and so i haeve claimed what is your point? let me get the playerlist again and the roles they cliamed

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Players

• ShadowsEdge    RB

• Slabdrill    victory cop

• mutantdevle    fac. cop

• peace       role cop

• Pqwerty     hitman

• Different55     P0

• ZeldaXD    brothersin arm

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

many of those roles can be both aligged
RB is obvious blocking poeple that are dangerous
victory cop coudl be usefull for mafia to prioritize thier kills over winconditions (killing only 1 bothers in arrm to make the other useless)
fac. cop coudl alos be very great when dealing wiht many factions which is the case in this closed setup becuiase i think we have 4/5 factions town town-lean (for exmapl ebrothers in arm or basically all mitn green roles) mafia fever and hitman/neatral/whateverpqwerty's faction is
role cop is alos obvious prioritize kills
hitman coudl actualy alos be mafia allgied and be a mafiamember but im not sure
P0 is just P0 and not mafia nor town alliged
brothers in arm is in theory only town/townlean but zelda could fake claim it and get away wiht it while none countercliams here but i doubt thaat is the case now becuase somoene shoudlev CCed here rn if thats teh case if she really fi maf and none CC's here then thats literally just dymb and striaght **** up

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Hitman is not Mafia aligned, because if it were, they would be in Mafia chat, and Pqwerty, being the obvious hitman, would know who the other Mafia is. But they figured it out the same as anyone else would.

Furthermore, if Pqwerty was Mafia-aligned, why would he reveal who his partner in crime was? That would only solve the game for the town.

And Kirby's rolecard makes a distinction between mafia members and the Hitman. It claims the criminals as "Three Mafia and a Hitman" (Paraphrasing). If Hitman was Mafia-aligned, it would simply say "Four Mafia." The distinction makes it more likely that Hitman is neutral.

As for my "point." You're throwing random scenarios that could be true in order to depict yourself as town. It's the same thing Diff did in order to make people think he wasn't Patient Zero. Using "what if" scenarios doesn't help your case, it only adds a possibility of the scenario. And my point in that case was to debunk why that possibility couldn't be true.

he could b ebussing and then again IF im mafia look back at kira lynch D2

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

can someone run the maths on the % chance each faction can win now? asumimign we have town townlean mafia hitaman and fewer im gonna go to bed now

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

yeah you rolebloked and **** ROLE COP i was goign to investiagte mutant because i diddnt 100% belive he was town or mafia bussing kria to death a.llos i m still not sure about luka/slab slot

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

but was i treally you that rolbelbokced me because i really doubt youre the blocker becaause of diff+N1 i think im gonna check you tonight

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

how can a dead player win?>

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

crybaby i inteded to kill shadow but i released that if norboy AND zleda were alive i woudl get more suspictiolosu becuase 2 townblocks vs 1 maf is a loss for me i inteded to kill mutant/shaow th enext ingiht

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

wtf idff was ooo OP i checked rthe rolesin the sreadsheet and diff wa simune to ngiht actiosn so that explains the roleblock discussion form shadow hwo were we suspost to kill diff witout havign half of the town infected?

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

okay so NONK asked ot host #37 because he hoste #17 and #27 im not sure how his game are i knwo he hosted portugee in #27 let me chec k his #17

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

ah NONK msotly makes talk only setups (in #17 and #27 he did ) #17 was a bnit meh to rwad tehe setup i mena not knowign who you sent to safehouse is **** and th eight kill looks usseless i do ho there will be atleast some sort of power roles in his next game makes thigns mor eintresting i liek claims and lookign at claims if they are true or false

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

i have an ide aon midn that is nmot a dumpster fire

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

i shared it multiply times

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

hmm thats intresting need to check how it will ggo tough

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

i ws sitting in th ebath tub and was thuinkign abotu hwo the game woudl wokr but i couldnt think of anythign considering 'imagine real life that woudl pe oimposs or obvious' i was first thinking of me vs town and mafia on my side but i was alos liek i coudl greatly go in flavor of mafia if i do a wrong move then i was thinkign of 2 teams fightign each other in a game of chess both have maf screwign them both up but then i wa slike meh it means white maf is basically secerently black player and vicevesta + it woudl be weird if an bad person is tryining to let another bad perosn winwhcih is tryign to let his team lose alos i havetnt thoguth of a realistic way for mafia to **** up a game but i di dtough about playing a gam eof chess on forums wihtout being maafia styled 2 teams play (a team has X players) the team discusses in the thread the moves and votes to do a move majority makes a move happen and the tur n goes to the other team teams are reavealed ofc and balck cant vote for a move for white ofc and to make thigns even more intrestign this game can use the mechaanics of the clock in chess to put preasure on everyone but im nto sure what a realistic time fo rbtoh teams is

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Chess Mafia would be so cool. Would also be neat if we were to have some sort of Christmas themed mafia.

i dont kwno whwo i cna amke it realistic and make sure the mafia can screw up 'at nigt' wihtotu anyone seeeing it suggestions are welcome but for now ill make a signup topci for nromal chess

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