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mutantdevle wrote:Kira wrote:Pqwerty wrote:Yeah but Kira was crafty enough to make a very convincing Hitman card. Maybe he was clever enough to make this, too (assuming all 3 are scum, which is more likely than not at this point).
You got me. I give up.
There was no way I'd win anyway. I had to change my win condition but I completely missed Onjit's post saying he'd end the game if someone won.
I am the Hitman. My faction is neutral. My win condition is to be the last survivor and kill everyone in the process.
That win condition was just too rough imo, especially with so many cops alive. I got role blocked Night 1 therefore my kill wasn't successful, a shame.
Wow, so you are the hitman? That's very interesting. That settles that there is a framer.
Also, thanks for confirming there's a role blocker.
ShadowsEdge wrote:I'm the Roleblocker. I roleblocked Different55 N1
Are you confusing diff with Kira? I can see why you'd get mixed up. They are very similar names.
First off, @Kira you first said that you don't have a nightkill, and now you do have a nightkill but got blocked. Shadow, the currently uncc'd Roleblocker, claimed to have blocked Diff55 (which is not you, and I hope Mutant was being ironic when he said that the names sound similar, because they don't).
If there is an actual roleblocker who did block Kira, I would claim now because mafia literally has 3 cop claims, 2 towns with kills, and a jester claim to shoot. So there's bigger fish to fry. If no one claims, it is safe to say that Kira is lying by making a new fake card again.
Oh wait...there aren't any more people left to claim roleblocker, so you must be scum.
Also, @mutant how did you go from being 100% convinced that Kira is mafia in #467
mutantdevle wrote:This has removed any doubt I had over Kira being the hitman instead of mafia. Kira is 100% mafia and this post ties the final knot in the noose needed to hang him.
to 100% convinced that he was the hitman and that Shadow was lying?
Kira is literally just repeating the same trick, except instead of saying "Oh I'm the hitman and I already won, so I don't care anymore", he's saying "Oh I'm the hitman and I give up on the game, so I don't care anymore". If you are actually the Hitman, you are breaking rule #2.Onjit wrote:2. Do not gamethrow. Play your role to win even if it seems dire, you never know what might happen.
Still waiting for you to roleclaim oh wait...
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So basically Kira is the SK after all.
Better lynch him.
There's no chance for mafia to win anymore. We should lynch a suspect, I will kill anyone you tell me to kill tonight. Let's speed up the process
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Kira wrote:NorwegianboyEE wrote:So basically Kira is the SK after all.
Better lynch him.There's no chance for mafia to win anymore. We should lynch a suspect, I will kill anyone you tell me to kill tonight. Let's speed up the process
hmmm...?
I'm a bit worried that you might kill a townie instead and force us to compromise with you.
Well I have nothing to lose. With so many confirmed townies there's no way I'd ever win anyway, nor can mafia ever win this. I will side with townie for the sake of making the process faster
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mutantdevle wrote:Are you confusing diff with Kira? I can see why you'd get mixed up. They are very similar names.
That's wrong and you know it. Of course I know who I roleblocked last night. I didn't roleblock Kira, I roleblocked Diff. My assumption is one of two things, either there's a second, Mafia, roleblocker. Or, there's a third party source causing the conundrum (I don't know what roles Onjit used, but from ToS, the only ones that would make sense would be Transporter and Witch). In this case, I did roleblock Diff, but the third party source affected it to move me to roleblock Kira. The Latter seems less likely with the amount of claims, so I think it's more likely that there's both a Town and Mafia roleblocker.
To pqwerty if there is a second roleblocker, they likely won't cc me. Because then it confirms the fact that there is both a Town and Mafia roleblocker, and knowing myself as the Town Roleblocker, they'll be confirmed as scum to me.
And to add onto it, almost everyone has claimed at this point, which means that the other possible Mafia Roleblocker would most likely have to change their claim to cc Roleblocker.
mutantdevle wrote:Shadow's claim is false. Diff really is patient zero. peace was telling the truth so jawapa is town. Shadow, Slabdrill and pqwerty are the mafia team. Sanity is restored. GG. Let's end the day now.
My claim is not false. If you want to lynch me to find that out, go ahead. I never said Diff can't be Patient Zero, I said I don't believe they're Patient Zero, because I roleblocked Diff on account of my suspicion against him D1. The only way that Diff can be Patient Zero is if the latter of the two options (mentioned at the start of the post) is true, or if Patient Zero has roleblock immunity.
Peace and Jawapa are still not confirmed. You're assuming all of this based on a situation that isn't true. I'm not mafia, and again, if you want to find that out then lynch me.
The presence of the infection isn't exactly confirmed either. The only accounts of it are from Peace and Jawapa, furthering that connection.
"I'm not mafia, lynch me to find out!"
I expected better from you Shadow. There is no transporter or witch, or else I'd have gotten a message from Onjit. You roleblocked Diff yet he managed to infect Peace...?
I don't believe a word you say.
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Kira wrote:I will kill Diff55 tonight. I expect Crybaby to do the same so they can't roleblock 2 people
thats a waste of a vig hsot asumign vigi soneshotted
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I don't think so. It's a confirmed kill tonight, either they let me kill Patient Zero or Crybaby shoots him. I'm still waiting for town to tell me who to focus tonight though, they might want to eliminate potential scum
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You would've never got a message from Onjit with the Witch. And the messages that Onjit chooses to send are all to his whim. Because if it didn't directly affect your action, then he might not say it to you. Because Diff never said they were roleblocked, despite me roleblocking them. That's why I support the thought of them having no night action.
Again, this is false. Anyone would receive a notification that they have indeed been transported.
However, you are right. You don't receive notification for the following:
-Inspection: (Look out, Cops)
-Arsonist: (Doused)
-Doctor/Bodyguard
You get the notification for the following
-You got shot/killed/ignited
-You self healed/self protected yourself with a vest
-You get transported with another player
I'm sure I missed some. But all mafias work the same. You can't lie your way through this Shadow. You're done.
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#24 by railmat this was SK rolecard: Serial killer
You are aligned with yourself.Every night you may !kill an another player.
You are immune for nightkills and role blocks. If a roleblocker blocks you, you will kill them instead of your chosen target.
You win when you are the only living player in town
It differenciates from mafia to mafia, besides this is Hitman with serial killer's mechanics. I am immune to vigilante's shot, arsonist's ignition, mafia's night kill
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Kira wrote:ShadowsEdge wrote:You would've never got a message from Onjit with the Witch. And the messages that Onjit chooses to send are all to his whim. Because if it didn't directly affect your action, then he might not say it to you. Because Diff never said they were roleblocked, despite me roleblocking them. That's why I support the thought of them having no night action.
Again, this is false. Anyone would receive a notification that they have indeed been transported.
However, you are right. You don't receive notification for the following:
-Inspection: (Look out, Cops)
-Arsonist: (Doused)
-Doctor/BodyguardYou get the notification for the following
-You got shot/killed/ignited
-You self healed/self protected yourself with a vest
-You get transported with another playerI'm sure I missed some. But all mafias work the same. You can't lie your way through this Shadow. You're done.
ahem oyu get notifcate dif you get protected by a doc i think in one of my first mafias i got porctected
Right, but that's only if you have been successfully been protected by another doctor.
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Regarding my information, it's what makes the most sense. This ideal that you're going to disregard everything from Peace just because "He's not capable of it!" is only going to lead you down a rabbit hole. Sure, maybe he may not have been able to do it in the past, but that doesn't mean that he can't do it now.
My choice is to find a way to confirm if the infection is real.
More likely than not, I feel that if Peace is scum, Jawapa and Peace are using this infection, possible hoax, in order to confirm themselves as town. Because here's how I see it:
They make up an infection, pin someone as the source, Jawapa swoops in to "cure" Peace from an infection that has only been claimed to be true by them two. Once Peace is "cured" then Jawapa is confirmed as town for "saving" peace. And Peace is confirmed for showing Jawapa as Town.
Peace doesn't have to push the agendas, he just has to play a role, and sure it's been out of his ability before, but that doesn't mean he could have changed that.
Imagine Peace's putting on an act.
You're being less and less credible Shadow.
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Peace is literally known to not being able to put an act, if he says he has been infected, then it is the absolute truth. That's how I see it. He has never lied a single time in past mafia games, I don't see why he'd do it now.
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Kira wrote:ShadowsEdge wrote:You would've never got a message from Onjit with the Witch. And the messages that Onjit chooses to send are all to his whim. Because if it didn't directly affect your action, then he might not say it to you. Because Diff never said they were roleblocked, despite me roleblocking them. That's why I support the thought of them having no night action.
Again, this is false. Anyone would receive a notification that they have indeed been transported.
However, you are right. You don't receive notification for the following:
-Inspection: (Look out, Cops)
-Arsonist: (Doused)
-Doctor/BodyguardYou get the notification for the following
-You got shot/killed/ignited
-You self healed/self protected yourself with a vest
-You get transported with another playerI'm sure I missed some. But all mafias work the same. You can't lie your way through this Shadow. You're done.
I've never played with Transporter on Mafia, I've only played with it on ToS, and here it differs in a lot of ways which is why I didn't know.
Even if, I said that was less likely, and instead of focusing on the part that I said was more likely, you focused on the part that was less likely, and easier to find suspicion on me for. I said more likely, there is both a Town and Mafia Roleblocker, with myself being the Town Roleblocker, and the Mafia Roleblocker roleblocking you.
You confirming that you couldn't have been transported and that I couldn't have been witched confirms that I did roleblock Diff, and that if you were roleblocked then continues to confirm that there are two roleblockers.
So, you have roleblocked Different55, but his night action went through anyway. I highly doubt there is 2 roleblockers in this game, Onjit likes to be versatile when it comes to roles. I have been role blocked last night. There's only one possibility, and that the undeniable fact that you are Mafia, and not town.
However you look at it, it makes no sense that you are townie
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Kira wrote:Peace is literally known to not being able to put an act, if he says he has been infected, then it is the absolute truth. That's how I see it. He has never lied a single time in past mafia games, I don't see why he'd do it now.
Like I told Norwegian, if you always follow that, you're only going to go down a rabbit hole, just like you are now. You're so focused on the "truth" that Peace is telling that you're ignorant to any other truth, aka my claim to being Town Roleblocker, and refuse to believe anything else.
Just because they weren't able to do it once, doesn't mean they can't do it later on. I know, because I went through that in a different mafia game, where we assumed that this one player, who would always reveal themselves as mafia under pressure, was town because when we pressured them into revealing, they claimed Doc. Eventually we did figure out they were Mafia, but it was a big shift for us since we figured that they weren't capable of doing that type of deception.
Don't follow this rabbit hole.
I wish I wouldn't have to follow this rabbit hole, but all fingers points that you are indeed Mafia...
Your only defence so far was:
Well, there is a reason I've been scummy. But you're not going to believe it anyway.
I acted purposefully scummy on D1. I figured since I'm counted as a strong player in a sense, I could possibly be a target for the first night. So I acted scummy so that the Mafia wouldn't kill me, and instead be used as a pawn to their deception. While in the end it didn't work out in my favor, I didn't die N1, so that's a plus.
Acting scummy on purpose to not get night killed? I don't think anyone would believe that a second.
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Kira wrote:ShadowsEdge wrote:Kira wrote:Peace is literally known to not being able to put an act, if he says he has been infected, then it is the absolute truth. That's how I see it. He has never lied a single time in past mafia games, I don't see why he'd do it now.
Like I told Norwegian, if you always follow that, you're only going to go down a rabbit hole, just like you are now. You're so focused on the "truth" that Peace is telling that you're ignorant to any other truth, aka my claim to being Town Roleblocker, and refuse to believe anything else.
Just because they weren't able to do it once, doesn't mean they can't do it later on. I know, because I went through that in a different mafia game, where we assumed that this one player, who would always reveal themselves as mafia under pressure, was town because when we pressured them into revealing, they claimed Doc. Eventually we did figure out they were Mafia, but it was a big shift for us since we figured that they weren't capable of doing that type of deception.
Don't follow this rabbit hole.
I wish I wouldn't have to follow this rabbit hole, but all fingers points that you are indeed Mafia...
Your only defence so far was:
ShadowsEdge wrote:Well, there is a reason I've been scummy. But you're not going to believe it anyway.
I acted purposefully scummy on D1. I figured since I'm counted as a strong player in a sense, I could possibly be a target for the first night. So I acted scummy so that the Mafia wouldn't kill me, and instead be used as a pawn to their deception. While in the end it didn't work out in my favor, I didn't die N1, so that's a plus.
Acting scummy on purpose to not get night killed? I don't think anyone would believe that a second.
I'm completely aware of how everything points to me being mafia. And I'm aware that people wouldn't believe me. That's why I didn't tell Norwegian when he first asked the question.
It also doesn't help that I literally have a confirmed Town member, a strong player, and a town-sided Serial Killer (basically) all campaigning for my death. Believe it if you want, because that's my truth.
Let's look at what we've got so far:
>You claimed Town Roleblocker
>You claimed to have roleblocked Different55 Night 1, however he denies to have been roleblocked, source:
Oh right I guess I would have gotten some sort of message maybe although that seems unlikely.
I didn't get any notifications of any kind last night, and I'm not immune to roleblocks. Kinda confused what a roleblock would do to me anyway since it seems like my only ability is a reactive one (kill anyone who kills me).
>I, however claimed to have been Roleblocked last night. I, the Serial Killer/hitman did not succeed my night action because of it.
>No one counterclaimed Roleblocker, and as stated previously, the chance of having more than 1 Roleblocker is extremely unlikely, as Onjit likes diversity. (Please refer to his other Mafia games if you want a proof of that.)
Claiming Roleblocker was a smart move, but it also got you killed because no counterclaims followed. It's over Shadow.
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its not clear but the desc of my roel says this line however: 'You have caught a nasty disease from someone you had the misfortune of voting for.'his inection could have come ot me automatically
There is no typo in this therefore he cannot be lying.
/s
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Kira wrote:peace wrote:#24 by railmat this was SK rolecard: Serial killer
You are aligned with yourself.Every night you may !kill an another player.
You are immune for nightkills and role blocks. If a roleblocker blocks you, you will kill them instead of your chosen target.
You win when you are the only living player in town
It differenciates from mafia to mafia, besides this is Hitman with serial killer's mechanics. I am immune to vigilante's shot, arsonist's ignition, mafia's night kill
So the only way forward is to lynch you before you become the kingmaker in the end game like Crybaby did.
I agree that peace is definitely infected. We've confirmed the existence of infection through Onjit and peace is incapable of lying. Anything beyond that though is a question mark.
I wish I could be. Unfortunately, unless the stars aligns, Mauna Loa Volcano erupts and Hitler dies after hiding for 74 years in Argentina I doubt that'd happen. Let's be honest, who'd let any Serial Killer win intentionally, especially in such early stages lol
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mutantdevle wrote:I think it would be better to save peace and stick to the plan of you shooting diff. If shadow role blocks you it doesn't matter too much since diff can't infect anyone.
I was roleblocked last night. If I was patient zero, I couldn't infect anyone. Clearly, it's someone else and they don't work the same way peace does now.
Diff....
Different55 wrote:Oh right I guess I would have gotten some sort of message maybe although that seems unlikely.
I didn't get any notifications of any kind last night, and I'm not immune to roleblocks. Kinda confused what a roleblock would do to me anyway since it seems like my only ability is a reactive one (kill anyone who kills me).
You just outed yourself buddy...
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The final vote count:
[7] KirbyKareem: Kirby, Norboy, Mutantdelve, Different55, Kira, Pqwerty, Crybaby
[1] Norboy: KirbyKareem
[1] Different55: Peace
Furthermore proved by the final vote. There's no way you're getting out of this Diff.
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