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#26 2019-11-10 00:05:33

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

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You're trying to put doubt into my reason by saying "But would I do this?" That's the most scummiest way you could go about trying to defend yourself.

It's not a case of why would I do this, moreso why would anyone do this? It's a completely illogical way of going about the game.


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#27 2019-11-10 00:11:07

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

ShadowsEdge wrote:

re approach was to make him "think" that you had scum-read him, instead of actually scum-reading him, then why would you put the effort into creating an entire list dedicated to why you scum-read Crybaby.

1.) To reinforce the idea that I do scum read him.
2.) To give him the opportunity to rebut any of my reasoning for scum reading him.
3.) To clearly explain to others who may not have been keeping up with the argument why I scum read him.

When you scum read someone who is town it's often because there has been a misunderstanding. Giving him a fair chance to prove there's been a misunderstanding allows me to test whether or not he is actually town. It's important to maintain the illusion that you scum read them to keep their responses genuine. If scum knows you're only testing them rather than accusing them then they're more likely to manipulate you and work out how to pass your test.


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#28 2019-11-10 00:16:08

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

ShadowsEdge wrote:

I prompted you to vote for Crybaby today. You could have easily made a conclusion, you made a conclusion on Crybaby before, claiming that you scum-read them (See the quote above). But instead of voting for Crybaby/NoNK, you deterred the vote over to Kira, because of... a lack of content? What reason do you have to vote for someone that hasn't said much over someone that you LITERALLY claimed as scum.

I literally give you explanations to both of these that you ignore to ask this question.

I didn't fully scum read Crybaby.
Voting for kira was a more useful thing to do with my vote whilst I figured Crybaby out.

If you're just going to dismiss both of those things due to your bias against me then there is no point in asking about them.


This is the probably I have with your case against me and why I find it stupid. Almost all of the things you've said against me can only be refuted by "you're wrong" (because you are wrong).

If you don't already see that I've been game solving, if you don't already see why I voted for Kira, if you don't believe me on my stance on Crybaby, why does me pointing any of it out/repeating it, stuff you've already looked at for yourself and made judgements on, make any difference?


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#29 2019-11-10 00:22:40

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Crybaby was the one who cut the debate short, not because of replacing out. Crybaby replaced out D3 iirc. The debate stopped because Crybaby started a lynch against me, and thus changed the course of the debate. It was not cut short because of Crybaby's replacement, but instead because of Crybaby's intent.

I was very clearly still questioning Crybaby after he voted for you in this post. He never had the opportunity to respond to me. Meanwhile, I continued posting and mildly questioning other people. From questioning of taskmanager I concluded that his reasons for scum reading me were townie. My questions towards tofuu and Zelda yielding nothing I could make a solid conclusion on. And my post threating to vote for Kira if he didn't do anything resulted in my voting for him after he continued to not do anything (and after giving him plenty of time to).


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#30 2019-11-10 00:25:13

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

TaskManager wrote:

I don't really like this way of handling things, Mutant

Too bad. I'm in an aggressive mood. Trust me, I don't like it either. Being aggressive and having to defend yourself don't go hand in hand. But that's how I am right now and we all just have to deal with it.


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#31 2019-11-10 00:30:43

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

Feel free to combine all my posts in a spoiler tomahawk/diff.



Unless anyone posts something before I finished eating my cheese sandwich this will be my last post before going to bed. You have my reads, you have my explanations, feel free to do what you want with that information.

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TaskManager wrote:
mutantdevle wrote:
TaskManager wrote:

I don't really like this way of handling things, Mutant

Too bad. I'm in an aggressive mood. Trust me, I don't like it either. Being aggressive and having to defend yourself don't go hand in hand. But that's how I am right now and we all just have to deal with it.

this game is wicked

I'd like to say that said aggressiveness isn't game related but that I don't expect that to excuse any of what I've said; my words are still alignment indicative.


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#32 2019-11-14 19:36:04

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

GG. The mafia played really well in this game. I was strongly town reading 2 of them even in the dead chat and I only suspected Slabdrill out of PoE.

TaskManager wrote:

also good job on reinforcing mutant's nomination mafia PTSD

I honestly hate this setup. I rarely get mislynched and I certainly don't expect it to be twice in a row on the same damn setup with NoNK being on the my wagon both times.


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