Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

Norwee · 2019-11-02 22:32:30

NOMINATION MAFIA

Setup explanation:

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Rules:

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Alive players:

1: ZeldaXD
2: Kira
3: Onjit ShadowsEdge
4: ILikeTofuuJoe
5: Slabdrill
6: Taskmanager

Dead players:
KirbyKareem. Lynched Day 1. Vanilla townie.
(Processor) Peace. Lynched Day 2. Vanilla townie.
mutantdevle. Lynched Day 3. Vanilla townie.
eleizibeth. Lynched Day 4. Vanilla townie.
Crybaby NoNK. Lynched Day 5. Vanilla townie.

Day 2 nomination:

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Day 4 nomination:

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Minimania, Slabdrill, Processor, rat

TaskManager · 2019-11-03 00:32:59

yep its policy lynch time

!vote kirbykareem

KirbyKareem

TaskManager · 2019-11-03 00:44:22

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

The day ends in 72 hours or until a majority has been reached.

i thought the lynches are compulsory?

TaskManager · 2019-11-04 10:31:59

mutantdevle wrote:

Do I actually get to post on this day?

i think so, why not?
day 1 hammer happened way too quick imo
i was surprised to see the thread closed literally 2nd day into the game

im curious to see what does shadow have to say about this, since onjit allegedly opted out because hes not mafia anymore

KirbyKareem

TaskManager · 2019-11-04 16:16:28

Alright now that I have the time to post
First of all
@KirbyKareem and anyone that will die along the way
Can we reiterate once again that you should not woot posts by players to not interfere with the game? Some players metaplay the woots (looking at you mutant) and use them in their reads, particularly woots by dead players can be used to hint at something

Next
I think Shadow is a strong town lean because onjit most likely indeed rerolled as town. Like, sure, Onjit likes to mess with us (see mafia 33 where he was SK), but I doubt he'd give up being mafia to mess with us in a different way that is less entertaining
The same reasoning could be applied to peace in theory, but I feel less confident about him
Either way, both of them have yet to make a post

I don't like how Mutant tries to rush this, and vote hopping like that right at the start of the day is unnatural for him
And I don't like how quick he resorted to claiming that the pool is all town and that he's a victim that mafia is trying to frame

Mafia could go either for 3T or for 2T1S pool (I believe 1T2S pool is very unlikely (HOWEVER i have more to say about that one) and 3S is just lame obvs)

b) Given that Shadow is almost proven, and Mutant is generally perceived as a strong player, the lynch is essentially locked on the third player, whoever that is. With Peace being the third player, that makes him an even more obvious #1 candidate.

Anyway, here's a potential scenario where a 1T2S pool comes into play:
If Peace is mafia, that's going to become obvious really quick, thus the mafia could bus him right away by throwing him and another teammate into the pool
Peace is going to so obviously lynched and that earns the other teammate a whole lot of town points
I can see it only ever happening with Peace tho

Crybaby mentioned something similar back on D1:

Crybaby wrote:

This especially is effective if they nominate more than one of their members, and one wins over the other by "proving" their scuminess.

Summary: I'd vote Peace too, cause he's the least valuable player in the pool (and also cause I love policy lynching peace), however I don't like how Mutant tries to rush this without giving them any chance to talk
Thus I say we should wait

rat, Slabdrill, KirbyKareem, Minimania

TaskManager · 2019-11-05 00:20:11

Uh.... yeah
When I said we should wait I meant that everyone (or most players) should voice their thoughts
Not that we just sit and stare at this thread

I haven't read peace's posts very thoroughly (sorry peace lmao) but it does feel like he's actually trying hard to solve the game, lol

mutantdevle

TaskManager · 2019-11-05 00:29:57

Crybaby wrote:

man

Slabdrill, rat

TaskManager · 2019-11-05 00:32:32

Crybaby wrote:

yeah okay TaskMANager

i literally rewatched that scene on YT before reading your post and i just had to make use of the meme

Minimania

TaskManager · 2019-11-05 17:27:48

god what the **** i woke up to
mutant and crybaby are going insane again
i honestly cant be bothered reading through these enormous posts, just skimmed over them

peace wrote:

11: Taskmanager yeah politelync time? why? i see no **** logic behind policelynching sure its day 1 but cmon we have 62 **** horus to discuss yet we quick lyah an newbie who also is innonent

yeah i totally pushed the policy lynch all by myself

given how obvs of a lynch bait peace is, this coud be reverse reverse psychology

kira youre lame
do actually say something

rat

TaskManager · 2019-11-05 17:53:23

wow cool
when are we replacing tofuu

TaskManager · 2019-11-05 17:54:14

oh he legit posted nvm

TaskManager · 2019-11-06 21:17:14

hi
been quite busy recently
Crybaby's reasons for lynching Shadows are bad and I'm against doing it
I'm inclined to believe he's town, based on onjit's play pre-replacement. Also Shadow's posts didn't make me scum read him

I'm still suspicious of Mutant because of how he rolled into D2 though

ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:

I was going to make a longer explanation but when I clicked submit the browser crashed.

lame excuse
also what's the point making a summary of all of his typos instead of providing an actual opinion or whatever?

peace wrote:

ivebeen hinking... woudlnt it be **** if task was maf and put me an mutant in the saem epool and is nog lauging at his home where town argues on why were in th epool and what it means also if anatoly was playign this game an dhe was put in all pools then we were 100% sure task was maf lol

why are you so hell bent on my policy lynches lmao
if it "100% sure task was maf" would be the case, it would be perfectly reasonable for mafia to do it to frame and get me out

ight
so im pretty sure there's no other course of action to this than lynching peace anyway
no point delaying this

!vote Peace

thats L-1

TaskManager · 2019-11-06 21:51:59

Crybaby wrote:

Crybaby wrote:
Nobody else vote for Peace. The day is about to end anyway, and doing so would just stifle conversation.
I haven't been able to post and likely will not be able to for a while as I'm working very hard atm
He has the most votes* so if nobody else votes for anyone he will die anyway

fair point but.. i just don't see anything to discuss here?

TaskManager · 2019-11-06 23:11:55

Crybaby wrote:

okay maybe you havent noticed but there's an entire conversation going on about peace above your post

no i havent
>about peace
its just peace questioning everyone that voted him up with not much response and also questioning me based on my tendency to support his wagons..?
though, i do admit that him questioning zelda's vote is reasonable. zelda's participation has been lackluster
on the other hand, thats classic zelda so idk what to make of this. i still dont like it tho

peace wrote:

mafia wants me dead obv you should know that its likley 2T/1S here i feel it and eithe rmutant and/or shadow is gaining townie credits from this i do NOT like that but ti coudl asol be 3t/0s but unlikely what if mutant AND shadow are btoh scum then they gained so much townie credits now

neither of them will get townie points from this, regardless of the alignment you flip
why should they?

on the matter of hammering,
i just see no point waiting additonal 20 hours so why not fast forward smh

peace wrote:

??? i dont undderstand your reason to suspect me honestly

i dont suspect you much but theres not a whole lot to choose from
IF this is a 3T0S pool (which im still not sure about, i have my doubts about mutant), then we lose the least by voting you, as cruel as that may sound

peace wrote:

quick hammer? we already had an quickhammer on kareem on D1 when there waas
62 **** HOURS OF DISCUSION LEFT!

well we have less than 20 hours on this one and the conversation is mostly exhausted imo
kareem's wagon is quite interesting and i dont like how quick did it go indeed
the whole situation sucks however, because we can't read much into it, since people could be voting either out of mafia motives, or out of policy
i'd still look into the late voters on that wagon though

TaskManager · 2019-11-07 14:42:00

Again, it's how you rushed the voting at the start of a day

TaskManager · 2019-11-07 14:49:19

mutantdevle wrote:

Also, I'd like to point out that Kira's iso is trash and I'd probably lynch him before Crybaby if he doesn't post anything substantial.

I'd also argue that Zelda's iso isn't much better

ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:

mutantdevle wrote:
ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:
I can't I just spent 20 minutes on catching Peace's errors.
So why did you?
Because I'm bored

2nd day into the game is a bit too late to be posting whatever that was out of boredom
Admittedly, I had an offtopic post or two as well

mutantdevle

TaskManager · 2019-11-07 19:48:41

mutantdevle wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
Again, it's how you rushed the voting at the start of a day
I'm trying to establish what exactly about that you find scummy though?

I don't like how you started bussing/pushing a wagon on both of them without even waiting for either of them to say anything
Plus asserting the idea that the pool is definitely 3T0S when other scenarios are likely as well

TaskManager · 2019-11-07 22:34:42

mutantdevle wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
I don't like how you started bussing/pushing a wagon on both of them without even waiting for either of them to say anything
I didn't push either wagon. I simply placed my vote whilst stating my logic. A 50/50 decision was very easy for me to make.

Uhh
If placing a vote doesn't count as pushing the wagon, then I don't know what does

TaskManager · 2019-11-07 22:47:35

ZeldaXD wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
I don't like how you started bussing/pushing a wagon on both of them without even waiting for either of them to say anything
You started the wagon on Kareem and put peace at L-1, so imo it's pretty funny for you to say that.
TaskManager wrote:
Uhh
If placing a vote doesn't count as pushing the wagon, then I don't know what does

You're missing the important part

TaskManager wrote:

without even waiting for either of them to say anything

TaskManager · 2019-11-07 23:20:39

mutantdevle wrote:

Pushing a wagon is when you're actively trying to get people to join you on the wagon.

I guess we had different definitions of "pushing the wagon" then

mutantdevle wrote:

I also still don't understand what you perceive the scum motivation to be behind deciding who I wanted to lynch quite quickly. Is there something you find inherently scummy about coming to quick decisions? If your issue is with that I didn't wait for them to post before voting then the important thing to note is that my reads on each of them had nothing to do with their posts.

Sort of, yeah
I find rushed decisions and voting someone without letting them say anything to be inherently scummy
Also reads on someone without taking their posts into consideration can be pretty inaccurate imo, unless it's solid facts like night action results (which are not a thing in this game) or metagaming, like the replacement thing that onjit pulled off, which is the main factor in my opinion about shadow by the way

TaskManager · 2019-11-08 21:27:20

ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:

Since Mutantdevle was one of the nominees on Day 2, TaskManager might be thinking to push the lynch on Mutantdevle or someone else.

Who's to say scum!mutant wouldn't throw himself into the lynch pool and play victim if need be?? Iirc he even admitted himself that it would be reasonable for him to nominate himself

ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:

This is a scummy action as how TaskManager pushed the whole policy lynch wagon on KirbyKareem

As per mutant's definition of pushing the wagon, I did not push Kareem's wagon. I simply voted for him and rightfully so. And so did other players. I wasn't the first one to cast the vote and I wasn't even online for a good chunk of the wagon's build up, so I don't know why you're picking at me specifically
Also, I put Peace in L-1 because I believe the whole discussion was exhausted at that point

ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:

I don't see how Mutant has disagreed with me except for the post where he questioned me why I did the useless post about Peace's grammar. So where is the slight connection between me and Mutantdevle?

bruh
if two players agree with eachother most of the time thats what points to a connection between them
gg you just argued against your own point
By the way, imo having played 10 games is enough to deny you the "noob buff", so to speak

Kira get your **** together and post something of value
How much time do we have left?

TaskManager · 2019-11-08 22:04:50

ZeldaXD wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
if two players agree with eachother most of the time thats what points to a connection between them
Oh c'mon Task you know better than that. Mafia know that's obvious scum behavior (buddying) and are going to do exactly the opposite. Or when was the last time scum were obviously buddying in these forums?

Look,

ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:

I don't see how Mutant has disagreed with me except for the post where he questioned me why I did the useless post about Peace's grammar. So where is the slight connection between me and Mutantdevle?

Tofuu said that he doesn't see how did Mutant disagree with him, which implies that they agreed with eachother most of the time. Which is exactly what a connection is, isn't it??
Also, intentional or not, buddying between a townie and a scum player is also possible and happened a bunch of times on these forums, look at NoNK and Norboy in the C9++ game for example
So umm, no, buddying definitely isn't town indicative, if that's what you were trying to say
Frankly, it runs into a WIFOM

TaskManager · 2019-11-09 23:16:35

Uh hi
apologies for being dead today, got quite a lot of stuff on my plate plus got sick gg

i don't like this wagon that builds up on mutant
and kira randomly popping in just to hop on it makes the wagon seem even scummier for me
also i disagree with the statement that mutant is not trying to solve this game

NoNK wrote:

8: eleizibeth -- seems to be kind of sitting back and shading the popular targets. "what are you doing peace lmao" "kirby did you even try to read about the game haha". That's objectively scummy but at the same time I'm not sure if ele is just a weak player who isn't able to generate decent content so for his slot it's a scumlean instead of a hard scumread like zelda because I don't know if he's capable of a decent towngame. That being said, he was being kind of cautious about what he posts - "I don't know what to bring up except conspiracies" (paraphrased) which reminds me of 2B town, though actions speak louder then words so I don't have enough to justify townreading him here

NoNK wrote:

I think ele/task/shadow are more or less a solid townblock.

????? How did this happen?

Also are we really arguing about colour of text in our posts lmao

I've read some notes above about Zelda and reread his iso
Which essentially consists of sheeping an opinion about D2 lynch pool and poking holes in my boat, if you will
Sooo

!vote ZeldaXD

Kira is another person scoring high on my scumlist right now, so I'd be down to lynching either

TaskManager · 2019-11-09 23:23:15

Mutant what do you think about Kira and the Kira wagon?

TaskManager · 2019-11-09 23:28:45

Why did you vote for Zelda over Kira then?

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