Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

mutantdevle · 2019-10-14 11:09:49

Rules (Stolen from Onjit):

1. Respect everyone, it's just a game, don't be a jerk.
2. Do not gamethrow. Play your role to win even if it seems dire, you never know what might happen.
3. Only discuss the game in this thread, or threads I assign to you.
4. Dead men tell no tales. Please use the graveyard thread if you have been eliminated.
5. Make all night actions via PM to me.
6. Don't use the mod text color please.
7. Try to post at least once every 24 hours.
8. Days will last 72 hours, nights will last 24 hours.
9. If you break the rules I will be rather bad-tempered or difficult to deal with (informal North American adjective).
10. Have fun!

For further rules read this: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p … meSpecific

The rules are pretty much common sense tbh. I reserve the right to punish you for doing anything that breaks the game even if it is not explicitly stated here.

The setup is this: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9%2B%2B

I have used a random number generator to get 7 numbers. These numbers then decide what roles are in the game. If you do not fully understand how the setup works then all you need to know is that the only roles possible are listed in the 'example roles' section of that link. I will be using the role PMs stated there.

- Despite what is implied in the example roles, all PTs in this game will be open both day and night.

The players whomst are alive:

3. ZeldaXD
7. TaskManager
8. Daneeko
9. ShadowsEdge
13. NoNK

Those whomst reside in the grave:

peace the vanilla townie died day 1.
Crybaby the vanilla townie died night 1.
NorwegianboyEE the Doctor died day 2.
Kira the vanilla townie died night 2.
Slabdrill the vanilla townie died night 2.
Onjit the Serial Killer died day 3.
Different55 the 1-shot vig died night 3.
mrjawapa the vanilla townie died day 4.

Onjit

TaskManager · 2019-10-15 15:45:07

oh hi this started
yeah haha onjit how nice of you to write long posts as a joke you probably understand that i shouldnt read that because its a joke right

TaskManager · 2019-10-15 16:28:13

wow just noticed i got massively ninjad
i kinda had a short nap while writing my previous post lol

@kira gambler's fallacy

TaskManager · 2019-10-15 17:03:34

Different55 wrote:

Did you know? You can ask your child's teacher to not give them homework? Usually they're happy to comply with the request, but most people never would have even thought to ask in the first place.
What if TaskManager is asking the game hosts to be maf? If your coin keeps flipping heads, there might be something wrong with it that you're not seeing.

damn it you got me
game's over peace and daneeko were my maf buddies
pack it up boys

TaskManager · 2019-10-15 17:18:07

NoNK wrote:

Yo btw not really game related but I hosted mafia 17 and mafia 27, do you guys think I could get mafia 37 as well? thanks np, onjit and daneeko town, norwegianboy/shadowsedge feel like they're trying too hard. vote stays on jawapa for openly claiming to be against town. love you all xoxo

thats 4 games ahead
also why onjit and daneeko town

TaskManager · 2019-10-15 17:27:57

Crybaby wrote:

Crybaby wrote:
Crybaby wrote:
Hi, I'm a vanilla townie.
You seem like you're trying way too hard to come off as town.
!vote Crybaby
You're one to talk, you were Mafia in pretty much every game you've been in. I bet it's you, Task, and Norboy again

Mutant is our main threat, we should target him N1

TaskManager · 2019-10-15 18:49:50

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
game's over peace and daneeko were my maf buddies
What is Task is actually telling the truth here, but we all think it's a joke so we never consider the possibility.
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I really wonder how **** up this game could've been if we all played along

Slabdrill

TaskManager · 2019-10-15 19:52:11

!lynch Peace

lets go!

TaskManager · 2019-10-15 20:48:50

wait a second whats the majority

TaskManager · 2019-10-15 20:50:11

its SEVEN
coincidentally im SEVENth on the player list
coincidence? coincidentally, i thin KNOT

TaskManager · 2019-10-15 21:10:29

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

peace wrote:
really feeling noweg/tasl/cry scum team
So i think it's safe to say that me/Task and Crybaby are definitely town if Peace flips red.

I'd argue if it wasn't peace saying that

TaskManager · 2019-10-16 01:20:10

Slabdrill wrote:

I can't tell how much of this is ****
Will go through better when not on mobile

We at Mafia 33 take the game very seriously. Our selling point is that we endure multiple mental breakdowns in the process of the game, leaving our players entertained.

TaskManager · 2019-10-16 14:37:22

@Mutant hey it would be cool to have a timeanddate countdown for the day end
That would rid you and the players of the burden of asking and answering the question "how much time left"

Kira wrote:

Onjit wrote:
!vote ZeldaXD
it's been like 12 hours and he hasn't even posted yet. How scummy is that?!
(I'd join the peace wagon but I don't want to push it to L-2 when we have like 60 hours of discussion time left)
Vote Zelda
I trust anything Onjit says

I feel odd about this post
I have a slight town lean on Onjit, but this post feels to me like Kira setting up a post to potentially paint a bad picture of him later
Why do you trust Onjit so much, kira?

Peace's wagon is gaining votes too quickly
There's a sound reason to lynch him, yes, but since we still have some time on our hands I'm going to play around

!vote Daneeko

TaskManager · 2019-10-16 17:28:12

Daneeko wrote:

peace wrote:
!unvote
!vote daneeko
not caring about L-1 and wanted to rush this lynch knowing im town kirs is sus too of putting me on L1 aswell onjit get stonw vibes fo runvoting noweg hs a point in her question so i unovte becuase of that +he unvoted for me when iwas at L1 i didnt suspect ou 3 becuase of conenctions btu because of other things crybaby isnt solvoigign t he game at all but just voting himself and talkign to him self alos zelda needs to post
also..
mutantdevle wrote:
and any roles with pre-game choices will be prompted to choose.
this is an intresthing thing so some roles can do pre game things...
i already clarified that i wasnt trying to push the lynch wagon on you, it was just bad wording on my behalf

This doesn't hold together
You said you're not unvoting Peace, and then said there's nothing else to do because (im guessing?) the reason for lynching him is obvious and we should discuss something else meanwhile
Now you're saying you didn't even push a wagon on him? What does poor wording of that post has to do with it?

peace

TaskManager · 2019-10-16 22:50:02

I didn't look very closely to the setup
What's the probability of Town having two players with the same power role? (that is not a Mason, obviously)

TaskManager · 2019-10-17 00:16:19

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Do i smell PR speculation?

Depends on what you define as PR speculation
I've been thinking whether it makes sense to claim if you're a PR and you're close to being lynched. If the Town has, say, 2 cops, and the person in question claims cop, the other cop will counterclaim and it's very obviously confusing the Town as well as giving mafia a large advantage

TaskManager · 2019-10-17 08:22:53

I have no idea what's the votecount
But the day is coming to an end anyway and I'm more confident in lynching Peace than Daneeko

!vote Peace

TaskManager · 2019-10-19 00:27:32

Kira wrote:

vote NorwegianBoy

??????? why

NoNK wrote:

considering how he has not really responded much to the pressure on him

Yeah, since stacking votes on Daneeko didn't really yield any reaction from him, admittedly that's some townie points for him
but on the other hand, if you look at his iso, specifically the period when he was being pressured, his posts are basically meaningless and he deliberately ignores the discussion at hand
who's to say mafia won't have an attitude of "if i ignore them attacking me maybe they'll drop it soon"?

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

MrJawapa is pinging me hard. He wooted Peace's post that explicitly refers to my comment as "sounds like it's coming from scum". He did it on a post that Peace made before Mutant announced Peace's town alignment. This
makes me believe that he actually knew Peace's flip beforehand and he wanted to shade me and make me look as bad as possible.

Iirc Jawapa said in one of his earlier games that he uses woots to bookmark which post he stopped at while reading through the thread
Also some of your points against him are lame
but I'll leave that to him to respond to

TaskManager · 2019-10-19 14:52:37

I've had a slight scum lean on Norboy for a while now that I chose not to share earlier

I was his teammate in Mafia 31 and he was really fond of the strategy of playing aggressively as a mafia player to steer the town to disaster
Since we won that game, he might as well use it again next time he's mafia, and I speculate that could be this game right there right now
His random voting right at the start of the game (1, 2) could be him setting the basis for this playstyle, i.e. trying to seem as a strong aggressive player from the get-go.

There's also another thing that I found odd, but that could be just me being paranoid:
Norboy started very eagerly defending myself and crybaby when Peace said we're a scum team. Why? It's not like people barely listen to Peace's attacks anyway and it was pretty much a random shot from him
I believe that Norboy could set that up so that in case he flips scum, these posts can be used to show connection between myself (and crybaby but he's dead rip) and Norboy, and get me lynched
The posts that I'm talking about:

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

peace wrote:
really feeling noweg/tasl/cry scum team
So i think it's safe to say that me/Task and Crybaby are definitely town if Peace flips red.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

No Peace, i’m not voting you because you voted me. I don’t really care about that. It was mostly your post that put me/Taskmanager and Crybaby as the scum team.

(^ is this OMGUS? I thought we were voting peace because his behavior was similar to last time he was mafia)

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Meanwhile Peace is basically just going: "Yeah i think Norw/Task/Crybaby is scum lel"

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

2: TaskManager and Crybaby had barely even posted real content or voted anyone before you accused them of being scum. Can you explain what posts by Task and Crybaby made you believe that they are scum?
3: What is the connection between me and Cry/Task?

So here's that
However, a counter point to that is "Why would scum Norboy support killing Crybaby at night if he's trying to build up a fake connection with him?"

Also I don't know what to think of Kira rn
His spontaneous vote on Norboy is scummy, but then he posed it as not serious and didn't make any more posts after unvoting

Onjit, Slabdrill

TaskManager · 2019-10-19 15:02:12

Why, yes, I trusted your post about peace's similar behavior, that's why I started the wagon

TaskManager · 2019-10-19 15:11:14

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

@TaskManager
So you and i started the wagon and we both believed it was very likely that Peace was scum.
Don't you find it interesting how Different55 targets me as the suspicious one when you were attempting to lynch Peace with about the same amount of conviction as i did?

Yeah no don't pull me into that
You're also getting the blame for this:

Different55 wrote:

like JaWapa pointed out, at one point you said that you didn't care if he was a townie. PR or not we need townies.
Also partially just the aggressiveness of your play style this game. If you were scum you'd be in a good position to do what Mutantdevle (and you, I guess) have tried to do in past games.

TaskManager · 2019-10-19 15:13:34

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Yeah i already responded to that.

ok so what

TaskManager · 2019-10-19 16:27:03

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

That response isn't good enough.

Why did you not say that in your initial reply to my post?

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Or to rephrase it: Different55 blames me solely for the Peace wagon (as can be evidenced from his vote on me and his complaining about my "aggression"), when there were a lot of other people loudly criticizing Peace and openly speculating that he might be scum.

No.
From what I can tell, Diff blames you specifically for the way you pushed it
There's a lot of people that pushed the wagon but not everyone was so aggressive about it

Plus, I find this post unnecessary and scummy:

Norboy wrote:

No Peace, i’m not voting you because you voted me. I don’t really care about that. It was mostly your post that put me/Taskmanager and Crybaby as the scum team.

Was that really the primary reason why you pushed Peace wagon?

TaskManager · 2019-10-19 20:27:29

am confuse tbh

Would scum norboy do something controversial day 1
last time he did something controversial day 1, we lynched him right away and he flipped doctor (french revo)

I guess NoNK presented fair points here:

NoNK wrote:

1. wagon leaders are less likely to be mafia, mafia tend to jump on wagons, (obviously this isn't a 100%, obviously mafia can and do lead wagons but less so on day 1 where they're going to draw a lot of attention to themself)
2. While there likely was mafia on the wagon, attacking the townie who lead the wagon does not help to find the mafia(s) who hopped on the wagon, it actually distracts from that

(I don't quite agree with 3 and 4 though)

Kira wrote:

Norwegianboy has a tendency to play aggressive, going for the peace lynch was a safe lynch, since he can always use that excuse "It's very obvious when Peace is mafia and when he isn't!"

No that's not exactly what I was saying
Pushing Peace because it's obvious when he's mafia is not scum indicative.
I wouldn't say Norboy has the tendency to play aggressive either, he picked up on that strategy only in the recent game 31, when he was scum

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

No. Not voting until the end of the day just gives free space for scum to manipulate some wagon on a inactive town slot and nobody objects because there wouldn't be time to discuss anything.

On the other hand it gives us time to explore other options instead of settling down on whoever was picked first

@Norboy you never answered the questions in my last post.

Different55

TaskManager · 2019-10-19 20:48:17

Q2 wasn't really a question but okay thanks

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