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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

I guess I'll break it down for you guys then:

Here's the possible cases for this game:

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I'm mafia and there's another town PR
(5v3) > Lynch me > (5v2) > Town dies > (4v2) > Still in MYLO

I'm mafia and there's a SK
(5v2v1) > Lynch me > (5v1v1) > Two town Die > (3v1v1) > LYLO

I'm SK and am lynched
(5v2v1) > Lynch me > (5v2) > Town dies > (4v2) > Still MYLO

I'm SK and I work with town (mafia lynched-mafia killed)
(5v2v1) > Mafia Lynch > (5v1v1) > 1 Town/1 Mafia Die > (4v1) > Town Win

I'm SK and I work with town (town lynched-mafia killed)
(5v2v1) > Town Lynch > (4v2v1) > 1 Town/1 Mafia Die > (3v1v1) > LYLO

I'm SK and I work with town (we lynch mafia and mafia tries to kill me)
(5v2v1) > Mafia Lynch > (5v1v1) > Mafia Dies > (4v1) > Town Win

I'm SK and I work with town (we lynch town and mafia tries to kill me)
(5v2v1) > Town Lynch > (4v2v1) > Mafia Dies > (4v1v1) > MYLO/Town Win

I'm SK and I work against town (we lynch mafia and mafia tries to kill me)
(5v2v1) > Mafia Lynch > (5v1v1) > Town Dies > (4v1v1) > MYLO/Town Win

I'm SK and I work against town (we lynch town and mafia tries to kill me)
(5v2v1) > Town Lynch > (4v2v1) > Town Dies > (3v1v1) > LYLO/Town Win

I'm SK and I work against town (mafia lynched-town killed)
(5v2v1) > Mafia Lynch > (5v1v1) > 2 Town Die > (3v1v1) > LYLO

I'm SK and I work against town (town lynched-town killed)
(5v2v1) > Town Lynch > (4v2v1) > 2 Town Die > (2v2v1) > Loss Probably (Messy)

I'm actually the cop and a victim of an unfortunate timezone and NoNK's Tagliatelle Tirades
(5v3) > I'm Lynched > (4v3) > Town Dies > (3v3) > Town Loses

I'm the cop and we lynch town
(5v3) > Town Lynch > (4v3) > Town Dies > (3v3) > Town Loses

I'm the cop and we lynch mafia
(5v3) > Mafia Lynch > (5v2) > Town Dies > (4v2) > Still MYLO

We don't lynch today and there's a SK (and they get mafia)
(5v2v1) > No Lynch > (5v2v1) > 1 Town/1 Mafia Die > (4v1v1) > MYLO/Town Win

We don't lynch today and there's a SK (and they get town)
(5v2v1) > No Lynch > (5v2v1) > 2 Town Die > (3v2v1) > Town Loss

We don't lynch today, I'm the SK and I kill Mafia
(5v2v1) > No Lynch > (5v2v1) > 1 Town/1 Mafia Die > (4v1v1) > MYLO/Town Win

We don't lynch today, I'm the SK and I kill Town
(5v2v1) > No Lynch > (5v2v1) > 2 Town Die > (3v2v1) > Town Loss

We don't lynch today, and I'm the cop
(5v3) > No Lynch > (5v3) > Town Dies > (4v3) > LYLO

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Outcomes in order from best to worst:
Town Win > EZ-MYLO > MYLO > LYLO > Town Loss

Out of the cases where I am lynched:
Town Win: 0
MYLO: 0
MYLO: 2
LYLO: 1
Town Loss: 1

Out of the cases where I am not lynched:
Town Win: 2
MYLO/Town Win: 5
MYLO: 1
LYLO: 3
Town Loss: 4

If we ignore cases where I betray the town:
Town Win: 2
MYLO/Town Win: 3
MYLO: 0
LYLO: 1
Town Loss: 2

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Conclusion: It's objectively better for town to not lynch me, because even if I betray town (which I won't), town has a much, much greater chance of winning

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

I reread my post and I want to clarify that by "MYLO/Town Win" I mean a situation where it's trchnically MYLO but one of the scum is known

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

I know you're not going to believe me, but I'm acting in the interest of the town. NoNK is caught up in his own logic and is refusing to see what actually happened

I hope you huys can see throught NoNK's nonsense and make the right decision, but at this point all I can do is shrug and say

There was nothing I could do, dude

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

Because I'm the cop and NoNK was refusing to believe that I could make a mistake (which is quite the compliment tbh)

I thought that maybe by trying to give town an alternate reason to not self-immolate we could actually win this game, but clearly that's not possoble when there's mafia at the gates

So like I said, I've done all I can

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

All he needs to do to become unlynchable for the rest of the game is to kill a townie tonight (other then diff) and he literally gets into 2-2-1,

The only way for that to happen is if we lynch a townie today and both Onjit and Mafia target different townies tonight

For someone who accused me of deliberately skewing the data by not considering the likeliness of different scenarios, his ideals don't seem to apply to him lmao

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

vote zelda

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

also why suddenly lynch me
also if you don't trust onjit's SK claim and you think he's mafia then where's the last PR

i am the last PR

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

nvm i guess it's over

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

nonk is dujmb

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

idk what do YOU think i'll flip as?

i'll give you a prize if you guess right

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

@everyone

not guessing is scum indicative btw

only someone who has something to hide would avoid guessing

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

damn they were right to want to lynch you next

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

Mafia

Interesting that you think I'll flip mafia. Why is that?

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

not responding is actively avoiding discussion and holding information from town

this is scum indicative

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

What are your thoughts on Zelda?

Remember that not answering this very simple question is scum indicative

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

dude i warned you guys but nonk posts louder than me

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

i wouldn't put it past me to give up when i have like 5 people at my throat who won't listen to anything i say

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

yeah

but dude imagine if i WAS the cop and i was just **** with you

wouldn't that be wild

imagine if i was being real here

wouldn't that be wild

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

hey jawapa what do you think i'm going to flip as?

not answering means that you're deliberately holding information from the town

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

dude ikr

mistakes were definitely made

but what can ya do lmao

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

if i was mafia i wouldn't bus in mylo

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

dude i warned you guys but nonk posts louder than me

THATS YOUR FAULT FOR NOT USING THE BIG TEXT OF TRUTH

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

i'm claiming twilight killer

i can only kill in twilight

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

i got diff

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Re: Mafia 33 [Friday Wins!]

hey peace, do you want to host the next game?

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