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#51 2019-09-26 13:15:44

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

What the ****
Kira I get, but why are you doing this, Devlin?


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#52 2019-09-26 13:48:48

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Jawapa, let me ask you this: Why Kira? Why did you specifically choose to believe that Kira is the cop and that he's trying to breadcrumb us into lynching Kirby?
I mean, for example, how do you know that Kirby isn't the cop and is breadcrumbing us to lynch Kira? What makes Kira so special?
Your only reason for believing Kira is one post where he called Kirby a mafia without elaborating why. That's quite a weak excuse, and frankly, kind of illogical. Just accusing someone of being a mafia doesn't mean anything, yet you chose to force it to mean something.

Then, there's these two posts by Kira:

Kira wrote:

If you are town this is a really bad play coming from you Kirby. Do you really want to lead the town to its purge?
AndyMakeer town Dies - First Voted by Kira
Kira town Dies - First Voted by Kirby
Kirby town Dies - Etc etc.

Kira wrote:

But it would make complete sense to vote for me if you were a Mafia, however I don't sense any mafia vibes coming from you after voting for me abruptly, it shows that you are townie, imo.

In both of these posts, Kira mentions that he views Kirby as a townie.
Now, tell me Jawapa, if you knew for a fact that someone was a mafia, why would you ever call them a townie?
It just doesn't make any sense.


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#53 2019-09-26 15:22:41

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Jawapa wrote:

What are you even trying to say?

That your reason for trusting Kira is extremely weak and flimsy, that's what. You say that Kira laid out a hint with his bare-bones accusation, but if you genuinely believe that, then any and all accusations should be treated as 'hints' that the accuser is a cop and the accused is a mafia.

Jawapa wrote:

If you think the roles are reversed, show us why.

I don't think the roles are reversed; because why would I? I have no real reason to think that Kirby is a cop, just as you have no real reason to think Kira is one.

Jawapa wrote:

The first quote you have is prior to Kira's being able to use his ability. He wouldnt have known kirby was mafia at the time.

I cant speak on the second quote, because I cant find it atm. If it was prior to N1, then see above.

Both happened after day 2 had already begun. According to your theory, Kira would have already found out that Kirby was a mafia.

Jawapa wrote:

If he flips on kirby, and kirby is maf, then they'll want him dead. If hes pedaling kirby as a town, kira can stay alive.

So, when Kira says that Kirby is mafia, that's a hint that we should take seriously.
But when Kira says that Kirby is town, that's something we shouldn't take seriously?
Oh come on, you're seriously going to ride this dumb theory out 'till the bitter end, aren't you?


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#54 2019-09-26 15:39:12

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Yeah, there's no way Kira and Jawapa aren't mafia buddies. I swear I'll **** bricks if they're both actually innocent.


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#55 2019-09-26 15:57:40

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Jawapa wrote:

Lol then why did you suggest it?

I didn't suggest that Kirby was actually a mafia, all I did was use your bad reasoning to show how anyone can instantly become the new Omega faction cop.

Jawapa wrote:

If you disagree, prove me wrong. Calling my info weak is a bad counter argument.

What info? Everything you've said is merely speculation that's based on one post.
Plus, nice burden of proof reversal. How about you provide concrete evidence that Kira is a faction cop first and instead of relying on awful hypothises?

Jawapa wrote:

Context of when certain things are said are very important.

You know, you genuinely remind me of those conspiracy theorists that are like:
"No, no, the moon landing still could have been faked. NASA just had to develop video-edit software decades ahead of its time and convince multiple goverments to lie on our behalf, then it could totally have happened! What? Can you prove that didn't happen?"
Kira is not the faction cop, plain and simple. Stop scrambling to find any excuse to maintain your incorrect theory.

Jawapa wrote:

How many bricks will you be ****?

Zero //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/big_smile


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#56 2019-09-26 15:59:13

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

*Actually a cop.
Goddamn spelling mistakes.


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#57 2019-09-26 16:27:00

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Uh hey, my dad's just been in a car crash.
I'll have to be offline for a while.
Heh, I just... Can't seem to play a mafia game without something going horribly wrong. Sorry everyone.


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#58 2019-09-26 16:37:16

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Yeah it's all fine. No one's harmed and the dude that backed up into my father's car admitted fault.

It'll all be fine, but as I don't have access to a computer rn I can't really participate for a while.


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#59 2019-09-26 20:02:01

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

My vote stays on Kira. His actions have been too weird, and the explanations haven't done enough to convince me that Kira is not mafia.
I've let shadow slide yesterday, but I just can't let Kira get away with this.
I'm... honestly quite shocked how we've reached the point where Kirby has more votes than Kira. I don't really know what more I can do about it, though.
All I can hope is that Kira gets lynchhed today as well.


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#60 2019-09-27 00:05:23

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Oh, Kira and Jawapa have the same universe?
Hmmmm :thonk:
How peculiar. It's almost like they could be mafia buddies or something.


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#61 2019-09-27 00:13:46

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Peace for the love of god, do not listen to Kira. Do not vote for Jawapa under any circumstance.


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#62 2019-09-27 00:34:17

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Yeah, sorry Kirby. I genuinely wish there was something more I could do to help you, but my hands are tied.


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#63 2019-09-27 00:51:37

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Thank you Ele.


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#64 2019-09-27 00:57:13

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

@Crybaby
@Zelda
@Devlin
It is still not too late for you three to change your votes, either. I implore you to think for yourself: do you truly believe that Kirby has a higher chance of being a mafia than Kira?


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#65 2019-09-27 01:02:43

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

I believe that Kira very much is omega, because of this post:

Kira wrote:

Peace, trust me and vote for Jawapa.

Kira is telling peace to vote for Jawapa, and the only reason Kira would want that because it creates a tie between Jawapa and Kira, so neither get lynched.
Therefore, they have to be the same universe.
And since Jawapa claimed being alpha, and I do not believe that he lied about that.

Also thanks shadow, yeah something always seems to go wrong whenever i play mafia. I'm considering stopping because it's genuinely freaking me out.


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#66 2019-09-27 01:03:33

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

And since Kirby claimed alpha***
My brain dujmb


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#67 2019-09-27 01:13:04

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Also this line has a bit of weird syntax. Did you mean you believe his claim, or that you don't believe his claim?

Ah no no, I meant to say that Kirby claimed being alpha when he claimed drifter, and that I trust kirby.


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#68 2019-09-28 06:55:03

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Ugh, help?
What the hell is going on?


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#69 2019-09-28 07:37:19

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

All right, let's not beat around the bush; I'm the actual Omega Faction Cop.
That's the main reason why I fought your "Kira is Omega Cop" theory so hard, Jawapa, because I had already known for a fact it was wrong.
I've been pondering a bit on whether I should claim today or not, because if I didn't claim, I could theoretically get another investigation in tonight and share it tomorrow.
My investigation results are the following:

MutantDevle is innocent - Even though I already had a feeling he was a townie, I investigated him anyway, because a part of me was worried that Devlin was playing 4D chess and that he's doing what he's doing to become a 'confirmed townie' down the road.

NorwegianBoy is mafia - While I found some things NorwegianBoy did weird, I primarily trusted that he was innocent just because many of his actions mirrored that of my own. As the same as with Devlin, I had a nagging feeling that NorwegianBoy could be deceiving me, and I just had to check. Turns out, I was right.

!lynch NorwegianBoy

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#70 2019-09-28 07:43:44

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Shut it nerd, no one's buying that.


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#71 2019-09-28 07:56:39

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

No


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#72 2019-09-28 08:00:22

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Actually, I'll bite.
BUT
I'll only do so if you tell me the name of your mafia buddy, and if they confirm so.


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#73 2019-09-28 08:10:58

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Pfft haha. It was worth a shot.
I was never actually going to spare you. Like hell am I betraying my fellow townies.


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#74 2019-09-28 08:19:34

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

"I would have won if I didn't lose!"


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#75 2019-09-28 09:24:02

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Re: Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Yeah I've been wondering if one of you two would figure out the exploit like I have.


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