Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

Kira · 2019-08-18 22:16:22

MAFIA 29: The French Revolution

Moderator: Kira

Playerlist: (TBD)

-Peace (Replacing JoeyC)
-TaskManager
-2B55B5G TNG (Replacing Luka504)
-NorwegianboyEE - Doctor
-mutantdevle
-ShadowsEdge
-Zumza - Villager
-MrJawapa - Jester - Winner
-ZeldaXD
-Eleizibeth - Vanilla Townie
-Slabdrill
-Bimps (Replacing HeebusBajesus)
-Crybaby - Veteran

RULES:

Be nice. It's a game.

General:
- Please adhere to the forum rules.
- Do not discuss this game of mafia outside of this thread.
- Day phases will last 72 hours (or until a lynch is achieved).
- Night Phases will last 24 hours.
- During night phase, no talking may be done in the thread.
- Do not quote PM's from the mod at all. Paraphrasing is acceptable.
- If you have any questions about your role, or the game, feel free to PM me.
- You are expected to put a minimum of effort in your posts.
- If you break any of these rules, you may be modkilled or force-replaced.

Voting / Player actions:
- Make your vote clear and visible.
- Don't try to confuse me with your votes.
- A lynch will occur once a majority decision is reached. If no majority is reached by deadline, then the day will go overtime.
- Following a lynch, it is twilight. You may continue to post until I lock the thread and declare it night.
- If nobody dies for 3 consecutive night phases, the town will win.
- If you have a Night Action, you may PM your night action every night.

Activity:
- You are expected to post at least once every 48 hours. If you haven't posted for 48 hours, I shall prod you. If you do not respond to the prod within 24 hours (either in thread if it's Day, or via PM during the Night) then I will replace you.
- As well, if you require more than three prods, I will force-replace you.

Mechanics:
- #2EFFBD is my color. Feel free to use it if you'd like! Just not to impersonate me or to mislead others.
- I may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
- If you need to get the mod's attention, either PM me, or bold the text you wish to draw to my attention.
- I reserve the right to alter/remove/add any rules as I see fit. You will, of course, be notified if that happens, however.

ROLELIST:

Vanilla Town:
-Le Vétéran (Veteran): You are the Veteran, a crazy lunatic that will kill anyone that decides to visit you at night. You can only use your ability 2 times, send me a private message at night time when you decide to use your ability.
-Le Guet (Look-out): You are the Look-out, your ability is to observe a player and see who visited them during a particular night. You can use your role as many times as you want, but you cannot visit the same person twice.
-Le Médecin (Doctor): You are the Doctor, your ability is to protect anyone from dying in a particular night. You are allowed to heal yourself once but you cannot heal the same person twice.
-6 Villageois (Villagers)

Mafia Goon:
-Le Déguiseur (Disguiser): You are the Disguiser. You may disguise as a living target, which makes you appear as that person’s role, should you die that night or the following day.
-Le Concierge (Janitor): You are the Janitor. your ability is to completely erase one’s identity, as such, the murdered’s role and note will not be revealed. You can use your ability 2 times.
-Godfather

Neutral Evil:
-Le Boufon (Jester): You are the Jester! You are obsessed with the guillotine and hope to get lynched at all cost. Upon lynch, you will get the chance to kill anyone that voted for your death.

SETUP:

-3 Mafias
-9 Townies
-1 Neutral

-Win condition for Mafia is to have at least 1 Mafia alive at the end of the game. If 1 town and 1 mafia are alive, then Mafia will automatically win the game.
-Win condition for Town is to have killed all mafia members and the neutral.
-Win condition for Neutral is to get lynched.
-Mafia will have private room they can use at all time, there won't be any Martyr PT.
-The game will be based on a day and night cycle, the timezone used will be GMT +1, Paris. https://time.is/fr/Paris

HAVE FUN!

Joeyjoey65, ShadowsEdge, NoNK, TaskManager, 2b55b5g, Onjit, Minimania

Norwee · 2019-08-19 13:32:26

Let us find the enemies of the revolution.

VIVE LA FRANCE! VIVE LA REVOLUTION!

Norwee · 2019-08-19 14:07:44

Lurkers flip my **** too.
Also take a look at this dude.

HeebusBajesus
>Joined yesterday
>Posts: 1

HeebusBajesus wrote:

>"Arg arg arg spongebob me boy I just had crab rangoon arg arg arg"

Norwee · 2019-08-19 14:34:56

This setup seems to heavily favor the mafia side. We'll need some good strategies to win this.
I'm not sure what's the best thing to do for day 1 though.
Looking at the player list i think Zumza would be the least useful player overall to the town. I remember him staying mostly afk and not saying anything for a bunch of mafia games. But hey, i'm open to him proving me wrong.

Norwee · 2019-08-19 14:37:01

Also yeah, not sure why you guys are saying Jawapa is a lurker, that's not the impression i got from him at all when i was a mafia together with him in purgatorEE.

Norwee · 2019-08-19 15:21:21

I've analyzed the people i personally think would be fit for a day 1 lynch.

-JoeyC (All i see from the activity feed in his profile are crappy meme posts. Is this his first mafia game? I'd be open to lynching him TBH)
-TaskManager (No)
-Luka504 (No)
-NorwegianboyEE (No)
-mutantdevle (No)
-ShadowsEdge (No)
-Zumza (Yes. I already elaborated why)
-MrJawapa (No)
-ZeldaXD (No)
-Eleizibeth (Yes. Seems like another funposter à la JoeyC.)
-Slabdrill (Yes. Lurker.)
-HeebusBajesus (No. He has only posted 3 times and already seems more useful than a bunch of the dudes here)
-Crybaby (No)

So to conclude...
For day 1, unless there's any important events or bits of info that change my mind, i'm willing to lynch either of these users:
-JoeyC
-Zumza
-Eleizibeth
-Slabdrill

mutantdevle

Norwee · 2019-08-19 15:55:03

ShadowsEdge wrote:

That way, if another suspect arises, for a reason different than just being inactive, we have a more likely candidate for a Mafia member.

How though? What do you expect to happen?

Norwee · 2019-08-19 16:07:29

Alrite buddy. I don't think there will come anything useful out of it. But i'll play your waiting game.
-_(o.o)_-

Norwee · 2019-08-19 17:06:31

ShadowsEdge wrote:

and possibly find someone who is more suspicious than just: "They're inactive."

Not just that, they can also be useless.
Though it is encouraging that one of them is at least attempting to make discussion of somewhat substance.

Norwee · 2019-08-19 17:44:13

Luka504 is giving me bad vibes. He seems overly hung up with Slabdrill. Yet he isn't actually voting for him.
How many posts has he made where he doesn't mention how much he wants to lynch the afk people, specifically Slabdrill?
I think putting some pressure on Luka504 will give us much more valuable information than if we were to mislynch some funposting noobie.

!Lynch Luka504

Joeyjoey65

Norwee · 2019-08-19 18:07:30

luka504 wrote:

I.. Don't know what more you want me to say.

All i want is information. Lynching Slabdrill would give us close to nothing. Examining your behavior however, guarantees hard data. Besides, i really do feel an odd vibe from your posts so far.

Norwee · 2019-08-19 19:14:00

TaskManager wrote:

Norboy what made you do a 180 on Luka between posts 48 and 66? What made you reconsider?(#70)

Nothing to reconsider when i didn't reconsider to begin with. I thought he seemed suspicious from the get-go, i just withheld my suspicions until now.

@MrJawapa
Lynching Slabdrill might not tell us anything. If he flips town, what does it gain for us? What information is given? Lynching inactives is a great choice for when there's nothing left to do. But given the choice of people that act unnaturally aggressive and a inactive i'd rather go for the suspicious one 9/10 times. And Luka504 fits that description by a mile. I suppose i should start calling him 2B55B5G TNG now, but that doesn't mean i'm surrendering my previous points against him.

Feel free to counter my claims, i especially welcome your words Mutant. But isolate Luka's posts first, don't you guys see something strange with his behavior? (And no, i'm not basing this on whatever his reason for being replaced is. I know nothing about that.)

Joeyjoey65

Norwee · 2019-08-19 19:15:10

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

I don't know why Luka was focusing on lynching Slabdrill rather than other inactive people. I think Luka could've pushed a Slabdrill lynch if he really wants to get rid of inactive players. But what Luka is thinking isn't what I'm thinking, I still think we should wait everyone to talk then decide, rather than lynching someone random and you get no information from it, plus lynching early kills discussion time, so I didn't understand what Luka was doing lol

This comment screams to me: "damage control"

Norwee · 2019-08-19 19:28:58

His narrow-minded obsession with Slabdrill. If he really wanted to lynch any inactive player, why would Slabdrill be the player he regularly refers to when there were in fact a lot of other easy and completely valid choices for inactive players to lynch by that point? And he was quick about it too, already in the first post very early in the game he starts by attacking him.

Luka504 wrote:

I suggest we lynch slabdrill first.

Luka504 wrote:

They're not active enough for my tastes either, but I remember them being considerably more engaged than slabdrill

Luka504 wrote:

How active is Zelda again? I don't really remember too much about him, but I'm pretty sure he was more active than Slabdrill.

Luka504 wrote:

Hm
I still think that slab would be the better choice,

Luka504 wrote:

The day has recently started, and I'm only suggesting slabdrill if we do not have a better candidate for the guillotine.

Luka504 wrote:

I'm suggesting slabdrill only if there aren't any better candidates.

rat

Norwee · 2019-08-19 20:22:24

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

So Mutant, you're saying Luka was trying to cause discussion? I guess it makes sense but it makes Luka very suspicious.

2B55B5B TNG behaving in a self-deprecating manner makes me suspect he might be the jester. Which would also be consistent with Luka’s behaviour.
/Unvote

Norwee · 2019-08-19 20:30:06

In my experience. 2B55B5G TNG has been relatively easy to read. In the previous mafia game i (in a mafia mindset) deduced from one of his day 1 posts that he had a power role. Then when the game died he revealed himself to have been the classic cop. Meaning i was correct in my assumption.

Norwee · 2019-08-19 20:40:15

ShadowsEdge wrote:

And Norwegian is essentially contradicting himself, I cant really quote it, but at one point, Norwegian claimed that Heebus would not be a good lynch for Day 1, but for some reason, in that statement, is diverting the attention to the person they said would not be a good Day 1 lynch candidate.

Not sure i understand this part of your post. Though everything you wrote before that was excellent. The reason i pointed him out before changing my position on him is that he seemed like he was at best, an alt. And at worst, an newbie that signed up only to stay afk. But he turned out to actually have some intelligence behind his posts and is a friend of you. Therefore my distrust vanished and i wanted to see what he had to offer, thus there would be no point in lynching him for day 1.

Norwee · 2019-08-20 07:38:52

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

Norwegianboy I need to ask you some questions.
NorwegianboyEE wrote:
So to conclude...
For day 1, unless there's any important events or bits of info that change my mind, i'm willing to lynch either of these users:
-JoeyC
-Zumza
-Eleizibeth
-Slabdrill
Firstly you said you are willing to lynch these users, and Slabdrill is in that list.
NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Luka504 is giving me bad vibes. He seems overly hung up with Slabdrill. Yet he isn't actually voting for him.
Then you’re suspecting Luka (or me) for suggesting to lynch Slabdrill? I agree Luka seems overly hung up with Slabdrill but I thought you’re willing to lynch Slabdrill. If you are willing to lynch Slabdrill then why don’t you vote to lynch him?
Or maybe you changed your mind, but there are still 3 more people in your list, if you are willing to lynch them then why don’t you vote for 1 of those people?

Lot’s of things changed since i made that post. There was a burst of activity which lead me to fell less suspicious of some and more suspicious of others, the reason i didn’t vote any of them immediately is because the day still has many hours left, so why would i? I would rank Eleizibeth as less suspicious based on the fact that she made a couple of genuine posts after i wrote this one. Joey, while agreeing with what i said. Also seems a bit suspicious because of how he agreed with me and voted without any further elaboration, almost like he wanted to start a bandwagon without needing to justify himself by noting why he agreed with what i said. Slabdrill, i’m honestly fine with voting him, if there is no other alternative. But i want to try all other available options to see how people react. This will make it easier to scumread in the future. As for Zumza he posts in French but what he actually says isn’t too terribly interesting, so my stance on him remains relatively unchanged.

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

mrjawapa wrote:
!vote slabdrill
Jawapa voted Slabdrill without explaining, but you didn’t even ask him why. What do you think about Jawapa voting to lynch Slabdrill?
mutantdevle wrote:
!vote Slabdrill
Can you also tell me what you think about Mutantdevle voting to lynch Slabdrill?

MrJawapa: I don't feel good about him. Especially his "early mafia prediction" post. It's way too early to start blaming people to be mafia imo. What is be basing this on? Why does he put Mutantdevle in there? What the **** is Jawapa doing? (Scumlean)

MrJawapa wrote:

Early mafia prediction:
Slab
Norboy
Mutant

Mutantdevle: I don't know how i feel about him. Not terribly great to be honest. Voting Slabdrill is neither brave nor stupid. So unless Slabdrill turns out to be mafia, this vote will tell us nothing about Mutant's alignment. (Neutral)

2b55b5g

Norwee · 2019-08-20 13:09:59

Taskmanager, did you genuinely forget that Luka has been replaced by 2B55B5G TNG or are you trying to seem innocuous?

Norwee · 2019-08-20 14:28:27

Kira can you please type who's voting for who rather than just putting plain numbers? Also it would be great if you could include how much time is left.

mutantdevle, rat, TaskManager

Norwee · 2019-08-20 14:29:58

mutantdevle wrote:

Norwegianboy, do you town read Slabdrill?

Town read is a strong way to put it.

Norwee · 2019-08-20 14:33:33

If there's no other choice and we're running out of time i'd lynch him. But i don't think he is mafia, because i feel like there would be a lot more people defending him if that was the case.

Norwee · 2019-08-20 14:44:30

mutantdevle wrote:

@jawapa, why jeebus? I personally find it hard to town read someone who I've been told is supposed to be at least decent at the game but whose first post of substance is an excuse not to say much.
NorwegianboyEE wrote:
But i don't think he is mafia, because i feel like there would be a lot more people defending him if that was the case.
In contrast, Luka has been defended. So would the opposite not be true for him? I would have thought that would mean you'd keep your vote on 2B55. Is there any reason other than suspecting him as jester that you unvoted?

Any other reason? No, not really. My opinion on 2B is that he is 50% likely to be jester, 30% likely to be mafia, 20% likely to be town. So i'd prefer to vote him over Slabdrill. I simply unvoted because i want more discussion time to talk about, y'know... things like this.
I agree with your assessment of Heebus, if Shadow is correct about him acting unusual. It could be a valid scumtell.
I'm also very suspicious of Jawapa, but not sure if enough to vote him yet.

Norwee · 2019-08-20 15:11:00

In mafia 24, Slabdrill was the mafia roleblocker. He barely did anything in the game, yet he was almost never brought up as a lynch alternative except by me. I put his inactivity and the lack of people voting him out as very suspicious, then the next day i was murdered and nothing came from it. In fact he was one of the last people to be lynched in the game when he did almost nothing. Yet very few people criticized him for it during that time. So now, in this game where everyone seems totally ok with lynching him, we are supposed to believe he is mafia? I've learned a lot about mafia games through these last months and i realize now that some people don't even need to say anything, and yet it is possible to figure out which alignment they have. It is all about seeing how other people react to the idea of lynching them. How they interact with each other and so on. Therefore i do not want us to make unnecessary mislynches, even for day 1. I've thought things through and i realize i'd rather vote for someone that's been acting weird and has also been heavily defended for it like Mutant said. If i'm wrong, i'm wrong. But i stand by my current words and won't change my vote again.

!Vote 2B55B5G TNG

Norwee · 2019-08-20 15:25:17

It’s not useless. The more info the better for the town. Write a reads list if you’ve got the time.

mutantdevle

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