Mafia 29: The French Revolution MAFIA + JESTER WIN!

TaskManager · 2019-08-26 21:34:22

Zumza wrote:

Zelda probably is the disguiser.

Might be

ZeldaXD wrote:

mrjawapa wrote:
Unless a power role has info that goes against lynching zelda, why not?
Why would a power role out themselves (and thus risk getting killed by mafia at night) to protect me when I'm just a simple vanilla townie?

ZeldaXD wrote:

Anyway, if I get lynched and when it gets revealed I am town, my two main suspects are Jawapa and then Mutantdevle.

It's odd how he reiterates his townie role
Would mafia team sacrifice their disguiser to a jester revenge kill though?

Zumza

TaskManager · 2019-08-26 23:46:26

mrjawapa wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
The only reason I didn't want to do this earlier was that there was a wagon on Slab already and taking votes from him and putting them on Norboy could make either have not enough votes for a lynch, now that other people switched to Norboy, there's no risk that the wagon falls apart
Couldn't be anymore of a suspicious statement.

Why is it suspicious?

mrjawapa wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
Mutant's points about Norboy were merely a cherry on top for me
I intended to vote for Norboy way before that and I explained what I've been waiting for
TaskManager wrote:
There's still a lookout, if mutant is town, mafia wouldn't go for him right away because of lookout most likely watching him too
You and zelda are the only ones that have said this (that I can find).

Specifically what? And where does he say the same thing?

mrjawapa wrote:

If you're teammates, I don't know why you'd pedal a lynch against zelda.

Probably because we aren't

mrjawapa wrote:

He voted for Zumza over Zelda, when neither of them ever replied.

I voted Zumza because of his unexplained vote, to hopefully motivate him to explain his action
I don't know what expected reply from Zelda you're talking about. His post where he accuses Mutant actually contained some substance, while Zumza's post was just a vote
You're comparing two completely different cases

mrjawapa wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
Zumza wrote:
This seems like a mafia switch to save Zelda.
But having the jester killing Zelda or Crybaby with him, might be useful.
Why Crybaby?
Defending teammate.

So asking someone to explain their suspicions equals defending now
Wtf is that logic, I get it that you're jester but you won already

mrjawapa wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
Bimps wrote:
!vote TaskManager
Nice band wagon lol
Yeah why
@Zumza are you going to respond or is wooting my post enough for you
sus

Why?

mrjawapa wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
!vote Jawapa
L-2
Let's try it
For all we know he could be a jester, but eh not a big loss for us
Except, you then backed out. It looks to me like you're pedaling a bandwagon, and when it caught on, you backed out so I couldn't kill you.

I later compared your play in this game to your play in PurgatorEE and that made me think that if you're not jester, you're way more likely to be town, rather than scum
Which is why I unvoted
Literally explained it in one of my previous posts

TaskManager · 2019-08-28 00:56:25

amazing job at deducing that crybaby was mafia @jawapa

this is so sad

TaskManager · 2019-08-28 01:06:49

actually there's a slim probability crybaby was a disguiser
but the chances of that are very low

TaskManager · 2019-08-28 01:12:43

@kira update zumza in playerlist in the OP

TaskManager · 2019-08-28 01:18:19

Bimps wrote:

God dammit I want to lynch zelda but people are getting killed too fast for that to be safe
!vote TaskManager
Back to this one

How's that safe lol

TaskManager · 2019-08-28 01:31:03

Bimps wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
Bimps wrote:
God dammit I want to lynch zelda but people are getting killed too fast for that to be safe
!vote TaskManager
Back to this one
How's that safe lol
Because I think that zelda is disguiser and wants to die for mafia's sake. One of you is maf

And I'm a safe bet because of zelda possibly being a disguiser
10/10 makes sense

TaskManager · 2019-08-28 01:55:27

Bimps wrote:

Also, who do you think is scum?

I will give an answer to that once other people post

TaskManager · 2019-08-28 02:34:07

Bimps wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
Bimps wrote:
Also, who do you think is scum?
I will give an answer to that once other people post
Bruh this isn't day 1, cmon you're slipping

What are you going to gain from seeing my suspects now rather than 24 hours later?

TaskManager · 2019-08-28 13:01:26

Bimps wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
Bimps wrote:
TaskManager wrote:
Bimps wrote:
Also, who do you think is scum?
I will give an answer to that once other people post
Bruh this isn't day 1, cmon you're slipping
What are you going to gain from seeing my suspects now rather than 24 hours later?
Because if you say them now AND in a day, we can see your thought process. I literally caught you in the act, you are scum.

Yeah, you definitely did
you're either mafia desperately trying to get me lynched, or just really bad at this cause you're blindly pointing fingers at this point

ShadowsEdge wrote:

And another thing I want to note, we really need to be careful about this lynch. We have 5 Town against 3 Mafia. If we mislynch today's vote, Mafia will be able to even the amount of Town and Mafia. We need to take today seriously and take a look at all of our options.

Literally this
we mislynch today we lose
if today's flip will be a mislynch but the game doesn't end that means either crybaby or the lynched person was the disguiser

TaskManager · 2019-08-28 13:06:48

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

So assume that all mafia didn’t vote for Jawapa, then the 3 mafia are in these people:

That's a very bold assumption
I could bet that one mafia did participate in Jawapa's wagon, and took that risk because Jawapa would prefer Zelda/Crybaby over them

Bimps wrote:

mrjawapa wrote:
I am jester. And I'm going to.
If he decides to back out before the end of the day, he needs to be lynched tomorrow.
His comment about killing him instead of crybaby or maxi makes me believe he is godfather. Killing the godfather doesnt take a power role away from the mafia, as they still get their nightly kill.
They're probably gonna have their janitor disguise zelda as a townie.
Ok but if you end up not being jester you aren't gonna hear the end of it
!vote MrJawapa

Bimps voted Jawapa after he claimed that he's going to kill Zelda
That's scummy

TaskManager · 2019-08-28 13:21:59

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

?? I thought mafia needs to have majority to win
We have 5 town, if we mislynch, 4 town, mafia kill one, 3 town
3 town vs 3 mafia
Mafia still doesnt have majority
But anyway we should be very careful about this day's lynch

3 town vs 3 mafia is 6 players, with a majority of 4
there's no way 4 people would vote a mafia player so the town is helpless at that point

TaskManager · 2019-08-28 14:04:19

Bimps wrote:

You're just trying to call me out becasue I'm pressuring you.

Trying to pressure me doesn't make you immune to me calling you out. The card you're pulling right now is something a scummy player would try to pull off

Bimps wrote:

How is it scummy to vote a jester who was gonna kill someone that I also wanted dead?

How is it not? If you're mafia then you know for a fact that the person you want dead is town, and since Jester promised to kill them, why not help him and get that free townie kill? Plus you get free townie points from this misbelief that mafia totally wouldn't vote for jester

TaskManager · 2019-08-28 14:28:20

It is strange how any suspicions on Heebus/Bimps slot were dismissed after the replacement
Shadow had a scum-lean read on Heebus, but after Bimps stepped in everyone forgot about it

Mutant has also been rarely going on the offense and trying to solve this game, I've been looking through his iso a bit, and it was pushing for slab/norboy at first, and then mostly defensive posts/minor comments on random issues

@everyone The mafia takes up a good portion of the town at this point
Don't follow anyone, think for yourself instead. It is very easy for mafia to sway the town's opinion in any direction. A mistake most likely means game over for us

TaskManager · 2019-08-28 16:01:24

Bimps wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
Bimps wrote:
You're just trying to call me out becasue I'm pressuring you.
Trying to pressure me doesn't make you immune to me calling you out. The card you're pulling right now is something a scummy player would try to pull off
Bimps wrote:
How is it scummy to vote a jester who was gonna kill someone that I also wanted dead?
How is it not? If you're mafia then you know for a fact that the person you want dead is town, and since Jester promised to kill them, why not help him and get that free townie kill? Plus you get free townie points from this misbelief that mafia totally wouldn't vote for jester
Because I trusted jawapa all game and wanted him not to **** up his kill, which he ended up doing.

Why would you trust Jawapa all game? This is a crappy excuse. You weren't even here early in the game

Bimps wrote:

My vote is staying on you bruh

I don't know how is that relevant to the point that I was trying to make, but sure
Is there anything besides my uncertainty in voting, that makes me suspicious to you?

I'm just going to make my bet, if I'm wrong, well, we lost
!vote Bimps

TaskManager · 2019-08-28 16:42:10

Bimps wrote:

You're suspicious because you are now completely focused on me, and are trying to mirror my tactics to get a wagon on me. Not gonna work. Send reads.

l o l
>completely focuses on me and says im suspicious for completely focusing on him
you started pushing for me earlier than i pushed for you, mind you
i've been speculating about mutant in one of my today posts today, mind you
you've completely focused on me so you must be scum too? hypocrite

which of your tactics am i mirroring by the way?

>send reads
nice "no u" card here
isn't that mirroring my tactics, since i just asked you the same? hypocrite x2
i've already posted my reads on you in posts above, scroll up

Bimps wrote:

I didn't trust him all game, you can iso me and I see that I wasn't gonna let him pocket me, idk why I said all game in that post. And I did skim through the game a few hours before being a sub.

backpedalling!

TaskManager · 2019-08-28 17:59:03

Bimps wrote:

Just gonna ignore task from now on, ez scum in the bag.

you're so cocky and delusional

TaskManager · 2019-08-28 18:03:00

the fact that bimps chooses to ignore me instead of actually defending proves he's scum

Bimps wrote:

-ShadowsEdge - Ez pick
-ZeldaXD - Way too sus for my liking

these reads are laughable sorry bud

Slabdrill

TaskManager · 2019-08-28 18:17:56

or maybe youre just incapable of defending yourself

TaskManager · 2019-08-29 12:45:14

Y'all gotta make up your minds
Entering overtime is no good since mafia can easily stack up a majority on me as the current votecount stands and end it all

This inactivity doesn't benefit anyone but mafia either

Bimps's reads are a low effort attempt to get on the good side of players, saying "ez pick" or "i don't like him enough" isn't a proper read.

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Ok so, I finished up with most of the reads, but I still have to finish up on one or two of the reads. My laptop died, and I have to head off to sleep now. I'm sorry for postponing it so much, but I got sidetracked while making the reads and ended up having to do other stuff. Ill definitely send it in the morning though, since, like I said, I only have 1 or 2 more reads left to do.

Hurry the hell up pls
i'm getting mafia vibes from mutant so you're my only hope in solving it at this point

TaskManager · 2019-08-29 16:47:31

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

Do you think ShadowsEdge is actually stalling time lol

I have no idea
I hope he isn't, cause if he's scum too then I don't even know
At this point I seriously town read peace more than anybody else here

TaskManager · 2019-08-29 17:54:37

ShadowsEdge wrote:

He sided with saying that Slab should not be lynched

I never said we shouldn't lynch Slabdrill

ShadowsEdge wrote:

I don't understand why he was afraid to vote for Norwegian if he was afraid the wagon would fall apart.

Back then, we either had to keep all votes on Slab to lynch Slab, or move all votes onto Norboy, to lynch Norboy
I've considered them to be a mafia couple back then and was happy to vote for either
breaking the wagon into to smaller wagons does no good, it's basic math

ShadowsEdge wrote:

My thought process for this is that either Task was trying to figure out what Zelda's intentions are, or that Task was trying to build up a case towards Zelda to eventually get him lynched. Similar case as he did with Norwegian.

Nah I was looking for anything suspicious cause we had nothing to go off

ShadowsEdge wrote:

There's also this post. Knowing how Taskmanager has acted thus far, he seems to have a backlash at the people who suspect him, by proving points of why he's not Mafia, and sometimes voting for them. (Task was suspected by Norwegian, because Task voted for him, Jawapa was suspicious of Task, and Task eventually voted for him, but backed out, and Bimps is now suspecting Task, and Task is now suspecting Bimps, which Task did vote for Bimps). The reason this post stands out is that he didn't seem to have that same approach when Mutant had a suspicion on him. In general, Task has been very passive to Mutant up until Day 3, which I'll go over on my read of Mutant.

Out of all people suspecting me only Mutant sounded reasonable
Norboy was retaliating cause I pushed against him, Jawapa is jester and Bimps's accusations are a joke, I'm pretty sure he's mafia

Guess I gotta play the trump card and address Jawapa unvote along the way

I am the Lookout.

Unfortunately I did not find anything. I checked you (Shadow) on N1, with no visitors, and Bimps on N2, with no visitors too.
I unvoted Jawapa because Zumza reminded me (post) that jester is only able to do a revenge kill on a person who voted them up. I completely forgot about that, kind of a **** up on my end. But the fact that Jawapa was very unlikely to be scum is also a valid point. Eventually that move saved my life, because Jawapa stated that he'd go for me if it wasn't for my unvote. We still lost a PR though, rip
You might think I could be a disguiser, but I'm pretty sure the disguiser isn't told the role they "steal" (at least that's how it works in ToS, gotta ask kira to clarify whether it works the same way here), a disguiser wouldn't take a 1/5 chance claiming LO.
I do anticipate a fake counterclaim though, since if mafia get me lynched today they won the game, and they can risk one of their players fakeclaiming to do that, as long as town trusts that player instead of myself.

TaskManager · 2019-08-29 18:24:00

TaskManager wrote:

I'm pretty sure the disguiser isn't told the role they "steal"

I asked Kira and he confirmed that this is true. The disguiser doesn't know their own fake role

ShadowsEdge wrote:

I don't want to risk losing the Lookout.

I'm pretty sure I'll die during the next night anyway, there's nothing stopping the mafia from doing that

ShadowsEdge wrote:

I suppose, but it would have been nice to clarify that earlier.

I did! Twice!! Maybe even more

ShadowsEdge wrote:

I want to know your opinions of what we should do.

What's there to do? My bets are on these two and I'd vote either of them (Bimps and Mutant)
Since you scum read Mutant in your long **** post, I could switch my vote over to him
Fyi I didn't read your long **** post entirely, I've read through my case, and skimmed over other cases, cause that's too much text for my liking
I also feel slight scum vibes from 2B
I'm really unsure of Zelda and you.
I think Peace and Slab are townish.

mutantdevle wrote:

Honestly, we should have lynched TaskManager yesterday. I'm just annoyed at myself that I wasn't around earlier enough in the day to push it.

By the way, this is like mutant expected a lynch on me to be agreed upon
It's really odd how bimps and mutant are so overconfident about my alignment

TaskManager · 2019-08-29 18:25:21

Main reason why I townread Peace is that he'd eventually slip or panic if we was mafia
Look at his postsin RailMat's mafia game, he started panicking very quick

mutantdevle, 2b55b5g

TaskManager · 2019-08-29 18:25:51

mutantdevle wrote:

I'm not playing differently in this game I just care less about it right now.

Why?
Reminds me of my own excuse in PurgatorEE when you approached me with "You're less active in this game"

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