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It's weird how 2B55 was so eager to agree with Zelda about Mutant being suspicious, and coincidentally both of them forgot about LO's presence.
I know it's weird too
But I think later I posted about my thought of Elei's death is changed and I think I mentioned the LO there
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So earlier I said I think Jawapa has a connection with Zumza, now I'm gonna explain further.
Peace (Replacing JoeyC)
TaskManager
2B55B5G TNG (Replacing Luka504)
NorwegianboyEE
mutantdevle
ShadowsEdge
MrJawapa
ZeldaXD
Eleizibeth
Slabdrill
HeebusBajesus
Crybaby
He didn't colour Jawapa's name (I think it means undecided/neutral), so I think Zumza wanted to make distance between themselves. He also marked Norwegianboy and Slabdrill as suspicious (if that's what red means), which I think was Jawapa's thought.
mrjawapa wrote:If norboy was a townie, this would be an easy lynch for the mafia.
Exactly, that's why we should look for the mafia in the list of people who did not vote for Nowegianboy. Ironic isn't it?
Zumza backups Jawapa.
Day 1:
!Lynch Slabdrill
Day 2:
!lynch Zelda
In day 1, Jawapa agreed the Slabdrill lynch iirc, and in day 2, Jawapa voted to lynch Zelda. Zumza did what Jawapa wanted.
For me it really seems like they both have a connection. And I also don't want to risk lynching Jawapa. If Jawapa is lynched and turns out to be jester, it's fine for me, killing me doesn't really make any differences because I consider myself not very helpful. But what if Jawapa kills Zelda or Crybaby? I think both of them are valuable and helpful, killing them can be a big loss. So I don't want to risk it.
Therefore, I'm voting for Zumza.
!unvote
!vote Zumza
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So assume that all mafia didn’t vote for Jawapa, then the 3 mafia are in these people:
Peace, TaskManager, 2B, Mutantdevle, ShadowsEdge
And according to Zelda’s post
Norwegianboy called TaskManager and Mutantdevle suspicious. So maybe we should focus on these two people first.
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?? I thought mafia needs to have majority to win
We have 5 town, if we mislynch, 4 town, mafia kill one, 3 town
3 town vs 3 mafia
Mafia still doesnt have majority
But anyway we should be very careful about this day's lynch
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Oh, I see now.
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@Bimps
I don't think I wrote a lot lol, the only long post I made was my read list.
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Do you think ShadowsEdge is actually stalling time lol
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So I read Shadows' long post, and I agree with what he said. Yea, my action of unvoting Jawapa is suspicious, but that was because I was scared that Crybaby or Zelda could be killed, so I switched my vote to Zumza.
I also believe Task's Lookout claim, so I don't know why Bimps still doesn't trust Task. There's also a chance that Task isn't lookout and he claimed lookout so the real one can hide, but I don't think that will happen lol.
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Yay, another read list. (this is probably gonna be a short one, cuz I'm tired)
So I will re-read everything starting from Elei's death to now, and try to analyze things.
So when I read his posts, I think he is always focused on Mutantdevle (mainly page 15-16).
ZeldaXD wrote:Mutantdevle would be a very juicy target for mafia, especially with doctor being dead, because we all know how helpful mutantdevle is for whatever team he's in, so if mutant is town I think mafia would target getting rid of him, but they pick to kill a random like eleizibeth? Not buying it, I'm scum-reading mutant HARD.
woow deep words yeah thats a reason so scum read him im gonna agree wiht you
im nto gonna vote yet but im really up to a mutant lynch rn based on zeldas wording why wouldtnt the maf target mutant?
2B55B5G TNG wrote:I isolated Elei's posts and she doesn't really seem to have any connections with anyone, so I think mafia killed her because of that reason.
I agree with what Zumza said too, Mutant is like a very strong enemy if he is town, so normally mafia will kill Mutant. Mafia not killing mutant is a bit strange.
nto only that btu mafia clearly kenw doc was saced in day 1 lynch free muntant kill? or no ofc not why woudl maifa kill thier strongest team mate am i right mutantdevle?
!lynch mutantdevle lets see hwere this goes
He seems to forget that a Lookout exists, until TaskManager mentioned it.
TaskManager wrote:Zelda has a point however it's also possible that mafia chose to act carefully and avoid being spotted by LO
And it's also possible mafia is doing this intentionally to frame mutant, since whenever he is town, he's a scapegoat for anything that happens, in which case Zelda is suspokay wait you made a very well poitn here
!unvote
And then continues to focus on Mutantdevle.
heres what i think about mutant notbeing killed N1: eiehter hes mafia or he is town and maf did nto kill him to frame him and put his suspictioulous level very hihg so town would almost vote him and they get mutant killed wihtout wasting their ability on it its a 50/50 so im not sure wheter we SHOULD lynh mutant or not
right now i have no idea hwo to lynch other then MABY mutant btu mutant is a 50/50 eithe rhes mafia or a framed townie that looks very sus now cuase of no kill so thats teh reason im not gonna vote mutant yet as that would be helping the mafia alos woudl liek to hear somethign form bimps so thats a nice wait as well
Peace's opinion on Mutantdevle has changed when he realizes that a Lookout exists.
Except the part that he focuses on Mutantdevle, I think everything else is fine. The part that he focuses on Mutantdevle feels like he was trying to get rid of him, but he was unsure about lynching Mutant too, so I don't really know. But anyway, overall he has his own opinions, and he also stated the he mainly votes when he agrees to a bandwagon.
honestly i have no clue who to lynch as i simply cant agree to poeple who started a bandwagon caus emy votes usualy come from agreing wiht a bandwagon caus eim bad at makign reads ill just give my toughts about a bandwagon started
Following a bandwagon might be suspicious, but for a player like Peace, I think it's fine.
So I think Peace is Townish.
Claimed Lookout, no one counter-claimed, so there's not really much to say, but anyway.
ZeldaXD wrote:Mutantdevle would be a very juicy target for mafia, especially with doctor being dead, because we all know how helpful mutantdevle is for whatever team he's in, so if mutant is town I think mafia would target getting rid of him, but they pick to kill a random like eleizibeth? Not buying it, I'm scum-reading mutant HARD.
There's still a lookout, if mutant is town, mafia wouldn't go for him right away because of lookout most likely watching him too
Mentioned that a Lookout exists.
Zelda has a point however it's also possible that mafia chose to act carefully and avoid being spotted by LO
And it's also possible mafia is doing this intentionally to frame mutant, since whenever he is town, he's a scapegoat for anything that happens, in which case Zelda is susp
Also provided his own opinions.
This is odd though:
Slabdrill wrote:!vote norwegianboy
i think they’re town, but the information is the best we’re getting
Slabdrill wrote:!unvote
I really think norwegianboy is town. They’re still probably going to win plurality anyways...
It's like he's okay with lynching him for the sake of information but doesn't want to be on the wagon, why?
This is a good point.
!vote Jawapa
L-2Let's try it
For all we know he could be a jester, but eh not a big loss for us
!unvote
I think this unvote makes sense now because he wouldn't want himself, a PR, to be killed.
The later posts are just TaskManager VS Bimps, I think I will talk about that in Bimps' part.
Based on TaskManager's Lookout claim, I'll assume that he is Town.
I also feel slight scum vibes from 2B
Can you explain why btw?
2B55B5G TNG wrote:Yea, my action of unvoting Jawapa is suspicious, but that was because I was scared that Crybaby or Zelda could be killed, so I switched my vote to Zumza.
You couldn't possibly know Zelda's or Crybaby's alignment, why would you be scared that either of them was killed by Jawapa?
Scummy.
I don't know their alignment, but from their posts I can see that they're helpful, so I didn't want Jawapa to kill them.
I'm kinda in agreement with Zumza and bimps here - the wagon on jawapa seems to have come from trying to divert the lynch away from Zelda.
I don't really agree on this, Jawapa was a better candidate than Zelda because Jawapa has been acting way more suspicious than Zelda. Also I think Zelda was being helpful.
Honestly, we should have lynched TaskManager yesterday.
Why?
At this stage in the game I think it's most likely for mafia to bus their teammates. Although they win if we lynch town today, if we lynch mafia today and then town tommorow they still win. So they'd probably want to secure some townie points ready for tomorrow's lynch.
Good point, but mafia not bussing their teammates is also possible because they're very close to winning, why will they risk losing their chance to win?
I'm not playing differently in this game I just care less about it right now.
That's not really a good reason but okay.
Taskmanager town, peace town, Slabdrill town, Shadow town.
If you trust that I'm town that leaves Bimps, Zelda and 2B55 as the mafia; -1 if Crybaby was disguiser.
I don't think Zelda is mafia (will explain why in Zelda's part)
Bimps wrote:The fact that people are pushing me and not devle is a sign that they're maf and I'm town
I'm not the only player not being pushed, so why am I scum in particular? Besides, I'm pretty sure I currently have the most votes with numerous people calling me scum. So I don't get where you're getting this idea that I'm not being pushed from.
I agree with this. Furthermore, Bimps himself voted for Mutantdevle too.
Mutantdevle was inactive so I can't really analyze his posts. Welp, I'm just gonna put him in Neutral-Suspicious again.
There's more, I'll send the second part soon.
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(the second part of my reads) (the quotes kind of messed up so tell me if anything is wrong)
His posts are very townish, I agree with most of what he says. But here I'm mostly 'attacking' Shadow.
Slabdrill wrote:anyway it seems weird for our doc to sac themselves like that wtf, expected them to be a townie since being a doc is pretty powerful
though the town PRs are kinda made to really hurt if miscommunicateYes, that's what I mentioned before. My guess for it is that Norwegian did it to put more suspicion on the people who voted for him. Mainly because he feels that the people who voted for him are likely Mafia, or at least, some are Mafia. Which is why he suggested that we lynch them. I'm pretty sure Norwegian knew he was going to be lynched, which is why he accepted being lynched, but voted for himself to try and put more suspicion onto the people who voted for him.
I agree with this one. There's most likely a scum hidden in Norwegianboy's bandwagon. Maybe we should re-look at it.
mutantdevle wrote:I think the main problem we have is with the disguiser. The janitor isn't anything special; it just has a chance to deprive us of some information. But that lack of information could make the mafia over-confident and hence potentially expose themself. But that disguiser, unless we lynch them today, no flip can be trusted (no town flip can anyway). I just want to make that clear to everyone because it changes quite a large dynamic of the game.
This post just feels like Mutant's trying to get information out to people.
I didn't understand this one.
Bimps wrote:mrjawapa wrote:I am jester. And I'm going to.
If he decides to back out before the end of the day, he needs to be lynched tomorrow.
His comment about killing him instead of crybaby or maxi makes me believe he is godfather. Killing the godfather doesnt take a power role away from the mafia, as they still get their nightly kill.
They're probably gonna have their janitor disguise zelda as a townie.
Ok but if you end up not being jester you aren't gonna hear the end of it
!vote MrJawapaAlso this post gives off more of a Townish vibe, but, as he doesn't really explain his intention with voting for Jawapa, I can only really assume he's doing it to bring Jawapa closer to Plurality. And considering he did this so close to the end of the day, I don't have much reason to claim it as a Town move yet.
Why does this post gives you a townish vibe when he doesn't explain his intentions? Bringing Jawapa closer to plurality but doesn't explain his intentions is still suspicious.
As with previous reads, I won't be placing a lynch just yet. Today is even more important not to get too hasty into a lynch. While I do find Mutant and Task the most suspicious, I think it's best to wait for their responses, and get an opinion from everyone so that we can all reach a consensus on who to lynch today.
Okay, sure, but what I found weird is that, you seem to be avoiding to be suspected by not voting. The only vote you made was a pressure vote on Heebus. If you aren't a scum you shouldn't be scared of voting anyone.
In your post, you said TaskManager and Mutantdevle were suspicious, but since TaskManager has claimed Lookout, the only suspicious left in your list is Mutantdevle. Will you vote for Mutantdevle?
I might be wrong, but right here it seems like Bimps is trying to heighten the suspicion on Task. He's been focused on Task for the Majority of Day 3, as Task mentioned to Bimps, so I don't know where he got the point of saying that alone makes someone suspicious. I don't like the idea of either of you guys starting a wagon this early, since the both of you started an argument, and then placed a lynch against each other. But my suspicions are more towards Bimps now.
I'm personally starting to lean more towards Bimps, because of his general unexplained behavior through most of the game, and lack of evidence for me to read him as (When I did reads list).
So who do you think is more suspicious now between Mutantdevle and Bimps?
As for that, I think it's unlikely that Mafia would buss someone at this stage. Mafia only has to lynch one more town to even out the amount of Mafia and Town. If both of them are Mafia, they're raising suspicions for both of them, which would likely end in both of them being lynched, which seems like a stupid move for Mafia. That's why I believe one of them is Mafia, and the other is Town.
I agree with this.
I'm putting you in Townish-Neutral because of the thing I found weird.
But overall, ShadowsEdge's posts gives a townie vibe to me. I hope he isn't some kind of person that is very good at pretending to be town.
Mutantdevle would be a very juicy target for mafia, especially with doctor being dead, because we all know how helpful mutantdevle is for whatever team he's in, so if mutant is town I think mafia would target getting rid of him, but they pick to kill a random like eleizibeth? Not buying it, I'm scum-reading mutant HARD.
TaskManager wrote:!unvote
Zelda what are reasons that make you think Mutant is sus, other than him not dying night 1
also for people struggling with page 2 of iso not working, instead of clicking on page buttons, add "&p=X" to your URL where X is page number
My main reason to find Mutant very sus was him not dying n1 despite being a very obvious target, however, I forgot there's a lookout (and a veteran), so it makes sense as to why mafia would not target him (yet). But I'm not willing to call him non-sus as of yet nor do I think such theory should be entirely discarded, especially considering Norwegian's lynch, who wrote a case against him which Mutant did not bother to answer quoting mutant "If anyone agrees with any of the points Norwegian made in this post then please point them out but otherwise I don't see a lot of point in refuting what he said if he's not here to justify them."
He said he scum-read Mutant because he thought mafia will kill Mutant. Later he realizes that a Lookout exists.
Nothing weird with that, I also forgot about the LO ._.
Well it might be weird for other people but not for me at least lol
I can understand why Zelda still suspects Mutant even after he realized LO still exists. Other than the reason that Mutant didn't respond to Norwegianboy's post, I think it's also because Mutantdevle did vote for Norwegianboy.
(Because you put Jawapa twice)
Welp, since it seems likely Jawapa will be lynched and that nothing much is going to change in the next 35 minutes, I'm going to vote Jawapa.
Jawapa, if you are jester, kill me. I don't want to risk Crybaby or Slab having power roles, albeit they could be mafia, I find it unlikely.!vote Jawapa
A town move. If he was mafia I think he wouldn't risk himself being killed by Jester because I think he knew he was going to get suspected by Jawapa.
I'm calling it now; Most likely, no mafia voted for Jawapa until the end. We were all aware of Jawapa being EITHER scum or jester, and mafia knew for sure he wasn't mafia thus they probably knew he was most likely Jester, why would mafia risk having one of their teammates vote for Jawapa and risk getting them killed?
I 50% agree with this. Mafia would not risk themselves getting killed, but at the same time there can be mafias that knows they aren't going to be suspected by Jawapa, so they will vote for Jawapa and earn townie points.
mutantdevle wrote:peace wrote:you forgot your team mates mutant and zumza obv mistake?
Zumza is dead.
Peace isn't smart enough to add in a detail like this. I'm now confident that peace is town.
Tbh if peace was scum it would be super obvious like the previous game (railmat's) where he was going to be lynched d1
I agree.
2B55B5G TNG: In purgatorEE (where he was town), he did not seem to care much about being lynched, in fact, he even encouraged to vote for him and even voted himself, he seems to care much more about this game, he actually cares about being lynched, maybe it's because, like myself, he enjoys more this setup with the power roles. But that's just speculation.
I didn't care much more about being lynched in this game. In the post that I changed my vote from Jawapa to Zumza I said that I don't mind being lynched.
Although I read Bimps as more scummy than 2B (it should be obvious why considering Bimps' attitude), I feel more confident on lynching 2B.
If you feel more confident on lynching me then feel free to vote for me.
I think ZeldaXD is Townish mainly because he was willing to sacrifice himself, rather than letting the Jester to have a bigger chance to kill a PR.
I'm a bit unsure with Slabdrill now tbh.
Now that mutant mentioned it, I think killing a very weak player instead of a strong player is suspicious. Perhaps the mafia were having trouble with thinking of a strategy?
I think mafia was trying to avoid the Lookout.
day ends in 70 minutes (12pm my time, and it’s currently 10:50)
!vote jawapa
even if they’re the jester, i think they’ll hve good enough judgment to kill a scum. though i’m not sure if any scum acrually still have the vote on them
Town move. I think his intention of voting Jawapa was to get plurality.
I didn’t expect to have some twilight time.
Go kill who you think you should. I’d probably go for zelda.
But idk why would Slabdrill go for Zelda if he's Jester.
A quick read-through of recent posts makes me townread zelda, with no strong opinions on anyone else.
2b - they should make another reads list if they have time, i want stuff to respond to (that reads list was still really good though). Town because everyone (that's dead) they listed as townish on the d1 list ended up as town.
I believe the scumteam is bimps, zelda, and 2B because I lack a townread on them.
Idk what's with this sudden change, maybe it's because I'm inactive or idk but what about Zelda? Would like you to explain it too?
I'll continue to put Slabdrill on Neutral for now.
So he was already showing his effortless when he started to play.
Oh **** I forgot about this hold on
I skimmed through the topic because I don't like early game and also I can't read peace's posts.
And sometimes he didn't give explanations on why something is suspicious.
Slabdrill wrote:I don’t remember what my thought process was at that point of the game. I think I mainly unvoted because I was no longer in danger lf being lynched, and didn’t know of anyone better to lynch (and I am available at the day end timelimit, so I could vote if a different wagon somehow went on).
Now that mutant mentioned it, I think killing a very weak player instead of a strong player is suspicious. Perhaps the mafia were having trouble with thinking of a strategy?
Also, shadows’ post did not seem like a derpclear.
Yeah I just said it wasn't after rereading it. But this post does seem sus
Why is it sus?
ZeldaXD wrote:(Because you put Jawapa twice)
Welp, since it seems likely Jawapa will be lynched and that nothing much is going to change in the next 35 minutes, I'm going to vote Jawapa.
Jawapa, if you are jester, kill me. I don't want to risk Crybaby or Slab having power roles, albeit they could be mafia, I find it unlikely.!vote Jawapa
**** is you are jester, call zelda's bluff and actually kill them
Provided no explanations why Jawapa should kill Zelda if Jawapa is Jester.
Then,
God dammit I want to lynch zelda but people are getting killed too fast for that to be safe
!vote TaskManager
Back to this one
He was focused on TaskManager.
Also, isn't it weird that Bimps voted TaskManager because of the Jawapa bandwagon, but then Bimps himself also joined the wagon?
TaskManager wrote:Bimps wrote:God dammit I want to lynch zelda but people are getting killed too fast for that to be safe
!vote TaskManager
Back to this one
How's that safe lol
Because I think that zelda is disguiser and wants to die for mafia's sake. One of you is maf
lmao Bimps that doesn't even make sense. You think Zelda is disguiser, then voted for Task. Then says "One of you is maf", but that shows that you think both Zelda and Task are maf. Literally what.
How is it scummy to vote a jester who was gonna kill someone that I also wanted dead?
The problem is that you didn't even explain why you want Zelda killed, or why you think Zelda is a disguiser.
You're suspicious because you are now completely focused on me, and are trying to mirror my tactics to get a wagon on me. Not gonna work. Send reads.
lol but you were also focusing on TaskManager.
Just gonna ignore task from now on, ez scum in the bag. Now time to post my epic reads
-Peace (Replacing JoeyC) - Annoying as **** so I'm just gonna say he's not scum because I can't read his posts
-TaskManager
-2B55B5G TNG (Replacing Luka504) - Has wrote a lot, and this is gamebreaking but I'm assuming that if you subbed into scum you probably wouldn't want to type up this much stuff
-mutantdevle - Not fully confident on this, but they want to wagon people which is a no bueno move. Could be town
-ShadowsEdge - Ez pick
-ZeldaXD - Way too sus for my liking
-Slabdrill - Idk lol probably town, they haven't talked enough. Could see them being scum if devle isn't
That's not how you do reads. If you didn't read a person you can't assume they're town or maf. So your town read on Peace isn't acceptable for me.
And then you simply ignored TaskManager and scum-read him. I'm not accepting that too.
Can you also elaborate your reads on Shadow and Zelda?
Hey lookout if you aren't task this is when you CLAIM IT
He doesn't trust TaskManager's Lookout claim even when no one counterclaimed.
Devle you're just being a ****. Don't excuse your gameplay by using other games. I want to lynch task, and will put my vote on him if there is a counterclaim, but devle is making me **** rn
!vote mutantdevle
I don't know what is he doing here.
The fact that people are pushing me and not devle is a sign that they're maf and I'm town
Did you realize that you were also pushing for TaskManager? And Mutant was also being pushed. I don't know why are you being self-contradictory here.
And also, your sudden change of lynch is weird. You voted Mutantdevle becauase he's being **** and that "Don't excuse your gameplay by using other game" reason, those reasons are not enough to lynch Mutant. Also from your posts I can see that you think Task is more suspicious than Mutant, but you chose to switch your vote from Task to Mutant. So I don't really know what is your intention now.
I'm putting Bimps in Suspicious.
I'm also not voting yet, I would like to see how people respond to this read list, especially Bimps, you're the most sus imo.
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2B55B5G TNG wrote:Can you explain why btw?
Your behavior is different from previous games
As odd as it may sound, you're not bashing on yourself and saying "idk how to prove im town" in this game
I know my behavior is different.
I didn’t want people to keep suspecting me. In previous games I always didn’t know how to prove myself innocent, so people suspected me. So I wanted to give it a try in this game.
@Town, since many of you believe 2B to be Mutant's/Bimps's teammate (whichever of these two turns out to be mafia), do you think lynching 2B today would be a safe bet?
If town thinks lynching me is a safe bet then I welcome people to lynch me.
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2B55B5G TNG wrote:If town thinks lynching me is a safe bet then I welcome people to lynch me.
Are you trying to bluff? A mislynch right now equals lose for the town, surely you'd be worried about that if you were a townie.
What I mean is if all people (or almost all) thinks that I'm a safe vote and agrees to lynch me, but not a person agrees then everyone lynches me or whatever.
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!vote Bimps
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oh yeah theoretically we can stall the game if bimps was actually town
@town just cast all of your votes on 2B and keep the wagon at 3 votes
with mafia having 3 votes too, the game is stuck (unless kira calls autowin)
What’s the point of making the game stuck lol
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Bimps is town.
Game is now unwinnable for town.
Mafia won.
GG
Town still can win if mafia doesn’t kill anyone
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uh what is happening th egame diddint end the day is over cuase a majority is reache don bimps lets wait for kira to flip him and lets neetr n3 task you should carefully think abotu who to check and hsare results on D4 if you can
Game ended, you fool!
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so was zelda the third one
I don’t understand why Zelda is the third one tbh.
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ZeldaXD wrote:TaskManager wrote:so was zelda the third one
Nope, I was Vanilla Townie.
???????????
is it shadow then, NO WAY
Lmao he acted way too good
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I got so mad at Mutant and 2B55, they both made references to me being Mafia despite there being no suspicion on me.
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Lmao
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NorwegianboyEE wrote:Well this should strictly be up to the host, but since i already know...
Zelda= town
Taskmanager= Look-out
Peace= town
Slabdrill= townMutantdevle= Disguiser
2B55B5G TNG= Janitor
ShadowsEdge= GodfatherWe would have lost anyway, no way we would have gotten ShadowsEdge.
I thought Shadow is gonna be lynched when you put your vote on him
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Those read lists I made took me so long I’m not gonna make them again ;-;
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NorwegianboyEE wrote:Peace wrote:dude you just broke the game
Dude the game is unwinnable for town, it's over. Can you use your frigging brain?
how coudl we be sure crybaby wasnt the siduister?
Bruh
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Why am I 3rd wow
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ZeldaXD wrote:Btw shadow whats that discord mafia you say you play in the Mafia PT?
Oh, 2B55B5G hosts a Mafia game on Discord, similar to the set up here (He gave ownership to someone else tho)
I also host one there as well.
Don’t play mine, the roles are messed up there xD
Shadows’ discord mafia game is good, go play his game instead
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