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#27 2019-07-23 17:30:02
Re: Mafia 27: PurgatorEE [GAME OVER!]
On one hand, I agree (we can afford to have a few mislynches) however, I feel like we can gain more information from lynching trytu than a lurker
I might change my vote if someone comes up with a compelling argument one way or the other
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#28 2019-07-24 04:11:51
Re: Mafia 27: PurgatorEE [GAME OVER!]
Trytu wrote:honestly mostly i was trying to follow mutantdevle's posts
now when mutantdevle didn't said anything for 2 days i'm quite confused what to doDid he just out himself?
i think he might have outed himself
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#40 2019-07-27 00:52:23
Re: Mafia 27: PurgatorEE [GAME OVER!]
I'm spending time with my family atm, so I can't do a full write-up for at least a few hours, but I'll just remind you guys that
a) this isn't my first rodeo and
b) I am well aware of what I post and how it looks
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#42 2019-07-27 03:43:42
Re: Mafia 27: PurgatorEE [GAME OVER!]
At first I was excited to write a big post explaining what I've been doing this whole game but then I realised that I'm actually going to need to read a bunch of posts and open a million new tabs and that really makes me ****
(I'm back at my computer, I'll get the post up soon)
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#43 2019-07-27 13:30:25
Re: Mafia 27: PurgatorEE [GAME OVER!]
I was having trouble figuring out how I wanted to start this post but this is a good enough prompt that I may as well just respond to this (basically how I was intending on posting anyway but w/ more structure? idk)
So what you are saying is that you've been purposely scummy this entire time?
If so then I expect at least 2 of the following from you:
- An explanation of the motivations behind why
- A hidden message in one of your ****
- Genuine reads and analysis of the players in the game
In this game, it was my opinion that the town was at a significant disadvantage to the mafia, as the mafia are 5-strong, and share a PT so they could (theoretically) coordinate, while we as town had no solid way of gaining solid evidence (no power roles etc). Also, I inadvertently found myself on the wrong side of two wagons on Hell-1 (Going after Kirby for inactivity, and being asleep while the consensus flipped to Zoey).
Between the traditional Day 1 **** and my bad luck, it seemed clear enough to me that I was already on the suspect list of many, (and with no real desire to try to win back the favour of people in a game where survivor bias means that any attempt to seem town is often regarded as a scummy move once people already suspect you) I decided to lean into it - to play more poorly to try to see who would inevitably agree with my posts regardless of their dubious merit (I mentioned it here but I think people assumed that I was **** or just forgot)
That's my general reasoning as to why - I'll post what I think I actually found out in a moment
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#44 2019-07-27 13:33:57
Re: Mafia 27: PurgatorEE [GAME OVER!]
These kinds of shenanigans shouldn't come as much of a surprise btw - Proc pulled a similar stunt last game, and I've pulled underhanded crap in benefit of town in previous games as well
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#46 2019-07-28 10:19:21
Re: Mafia 27: PurgatorEE [GAME OVER!]
I'll give a brief rundown of my thoughts on each phase and some reads of individuals sprinkled in I guess - I could post more, but life's gotten real busy real quick on my end so I figured I'd post something even if it's not perfect
HELL-1
It's kind of nitpicking whether or not the people who started the wagons were intending on pressuring people (ig. my vote on Trytu, which I removed when he posted, my vote on Kirby - who was wagon'd while I was asleep, and then my vote on sxrrealism) or if they were trying to get people started on a wagon. We've already discussed how the wagon around Kirby was pushed v. fast and then Zoey was found out - I don't really have much to add to this I guess?
HEAVEN-1
Here the main conflict is between whether to send Kirby (who was one of the many players who contributed nothing to the game but was almost lynched Hell-1) or someone that is much more town-leaning in their posts. I was in favour of sending Crybaby as a likely town member, but the somewhat reasonable (at the time) idea of keeping her around to help prevailed (while I was asleep)
HELL-2
Trytu's reads/posts were somewhat bizarre compared to other people in the thread but that was either due to inexperience with mafia or a language barrier. As a result I figured he was a reasonable candidate for a lynch. Lynching a lurker would likely flip town, resulting in a "well I guess we made a mistake but there was nothing I could do, dude" response with very little discussion potential. If a lurker flipped scum, there would be a similar result, with maybe some discussion on whether players actually voted for them or not. Either way did not inspire much confidence imo
Kira jumped on my idea of lynching Trytu to "gain information" but never actually followed up after Trytu flipped town. He's also been trying to match up pairs seemingly at random. Maybe he's scum, but he could also have eaten too many baguettes or something idk
Interestingly it was Crybaby who hammered, with a plausible excuse of "well there was nothing I could do, dude" - although with 8 hours left it's possible that it's a viable reason
HEAVEN-2
This is strange - Crybaby and Devlin are clearly more active and appear more town-leaning, but neither of them have much desire to be cleared of suspicion and to actually help town by being sent to heaven? Crybaby been actively pushed towards going to heaven, and yet several times has stated that they do not want to go. This leads me to think of a couple of possibilities for Crybaby:
a) Crybaby is town and is wanting to stay around and help rather than just sit on her hands on the off chance that there is a judgement day (now very unlikely since there are only 3 mafia in purgatory)
b) Crybaby is mafia and is repeatedly asking to stay to maintain the presupposition of being town to not only stay and sway votes as a "confirmed town" but also to maintain immunity for hell phases and to be able to go to heaven when it is most convenient.
Devlin is suspicious to me for a few reasons: Voting to send Jawapa to hell and then later on instigating a wagon to send Jawapa to heaven but never actually voting for him Only really starts participating in his usual manner (novellas) once he's directly questioned by Proc. However he has conceded that I could actually be legit (although this could be an excuse to lynch a town member to "find information" a la Trytu and then say "well I did say I thought it was possible")
Jawapa's wagon got rolling alarmingly fast - especially since he hadn't really been mentioned prior. Crybaby's wagon moving fast at least made sense - she had been considered town and up for heaven before this.
I was 50/50 on Jawapa tbh, and intended to vote to put him on L-1 (which turned out to be the hammer vote because I didn't refresh the page for two minutes - yet more bad luck on my end haha)
I'll give reads on the rest "later" (some time within the next 200 hours) but like 3-4 of you guys are going to get a "hasn't posted barely anything in the thread so i have no clue" kind of reading
but right now my three suspects are: devlin, kira and probably one of the lurkers
right now I'm not sure, but i'm leaning more towards mutant that crybaby rn
!vote mutantdevle
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#47 2019-07-28 11:58:55
Re: Mafia 27: PurgatorEE [GAME OVER!]
hmmm that sintresting
Onjit wrote:Devlin is suspicious to me for a few reasons: Voting to send Jawapa to hell and then later on instigating a wagon to send Jawapa to heaven but never actually voting for him
why do you find this interesting peace
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#48 2019-07-28 12:05:53
Re: Mafia 27: PurgatorEE [GAME OVER!]
also crybaby is confirmed town by many of us as ive seen it shell phase now jwhy woudl onjit do this:
Onjit wrote:!vote crybaby
Crybaby wrote:Why are you putting this on me? What did I do?
Onjit wrote:i'm going "all in", so to speak
i'll explain later - don't lynch me yet ty
?
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#49 2019-07-28 14:23:55
Re: Mafia 27: PurgatorEE [GAME OVER!]
pretty sus that someone who was a lurker for the whole game, only making a few joke posts was replaced by peace, who immediately pushed a wagon to L-1 with no real explanation
on one hand, it's peace, but on the other hand...
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