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RailMat

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From: Emmen (NL)

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Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

Welcome to Mafia 24.

Rules
1. All forum rules apply, however multi-posting rules are more lenient. So long as your posts are relevant to the game it shouldn't be an issue.
2. Do not post in this thread unless you are alive in the game. All posts made by dead players and people not in the game will be deleted.
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6. Do not gamethrow. Gamethrowing is defined as actively working against your role/faction's win condition, and is dealt with on a case by case basis.
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8. You may not talk about the game with living players through any means other than the game thread and Mafia night chat. No exceptions.
9. Remember that this is just a game. If I see any form of harassment that may warrant a replacement or modkill.
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11. The moderator's word is final. If I say not to do something it means don't do it. If you have an issue then it's best to save until the end of the game as to not interfere with the game.

The winner:
11. Crybaby Role: Serial killer.

Graveyard:
Anatoly - replaced per request. Role ???
GreenyMix - replaced for being inactive. Role???
TaskManager - Shot N1. Role: vigilante
Luka504 - replaced per request. Role ???
NorwegianboyEE: Shot N2. Role: seer
ILikeTofuuJoe: Modkilled D3. Role: doctor
peace: Lynched D3. Role: townie
Zumza: shot N3. Role: townie
mutantdevle: killed N3. Role: classic cop
Different55: lynched D4. Role: role cop
Onjit: shot N4. Role: townie
mrjawapa: Lynched D5. Role: townie
2B55B5G TNG: Killed N5 Role: goon
Slabdrill: Lynched D6. Role: roleblocker
Kirby: killed N6. Role: townie

Known rolecards:

▼Vigilante

Vigilante
You are aligned with town

Each night you may !kill an another player. You have only 2 bullets, so use them wisely

You win when all threads to the town are eliminated

▼Seer

Seer
You are aligned with town

Each night you may !investigate an another player. You will be told what the role card of that player is. The result is nothing if you got roleblocked.

You win when all threads to the town are eliminated

▼Doctor

Doctor
You are aligned with town.

Each night you can !protect an another player for being nightkilled.

You win when all threads to the town are eliminated

▼Townie

Townie
You are aligned with town

You have no night actions. Your power is your voice and vote.
You win when all threads to the town are eliminated

▼classic cop

Classic cop
You are aligned with town

Each night you may !investigate an another player. You will be told for what fraction that player is aligned to. Possible results: Town/Mafia/Nothing

You win when all threads to the town are eliminated

▼Role cop

Role Cop
You are aligned with the mafia.

Your teammates are: <player> and <player>. You can communicate with <link>. Do not share this with anyone.

Each night you have the ability of your fracional kill. You may also !investigate an another player. You will be told of that player have a power role. Possible results: Role/Vanila/Nothing

You win when your fraction controls the majority of the population

▼Goon

Goon
You are aligned with the mafia.

Your teammates are: <player> and <player>. You can communicate with <link>. Do not share this with anyone.

You have only the ability of your fractional kill during the night.
You win when your fraction controls the majority of the population

▼Serial killer

Serial killer
You are aligned with yourself.

Every night you may !kill an another player.

You are immune for nightkills and role blocks. If a roleblocker blocks you, you will kill them instead of your chosen target.

You win when you are the only living player in town

▼Roleblocker

Roleblocker
You are aligned with the mafia.

Your teammates are: <player> and <player>. You can communicate with <link>. Do not share this with anyone.

Each night you have the ability of your fractional kill. You may also !block an another player. You can not block the serial killer. If you block the serial killer, you will be killed instead.

You win when your fraction controls the majority of the population

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thanks AnatolyEE, lrussell, AnatolyEE, HG.

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

i claim green

i dont have any night powers

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

btw. as the topic is ee being hacked:

Who is thegame?

and maybe !lynch should be renamed to !permaban?

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

▼Hidden text

Lets go on random?

!vote mutantdevle

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

This is a beautiful start of the day. This game has chances.

If you’re the mafia, please raise your hand.

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

Tbh I'd rather not lynch Devlin (not yet at least) mostly because I consider him to be a pretty valuable player to us. (provided he's a townie)
He's pretty experienced in this game and he puts a lot of effort and thought into everything he writes.
That being said, there's still a chance he's a mafia member, and due to him being a very convincing liar when he needs to be, I'll take everything he says with the biggest grain of salt I have. Until I'm sure he's innocent, that is.
However, if he *is* town, I want him to stay.
I'd still recommend going with peace or Anatoly for a first lynch, though.

I can confirm im without power, that means the operato of the game definitely didn’t just randomly give out roles

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

And yes, pretty sure, as the probability to hit a Mafia or SK is 4/13  < 0.4 (

So I really think it’s better just to end the day, ...

I mean, why is ending the first day so bad?

Anyone we will lynch will pretty sure be town, if we do a mistake, with a power role,

And information is anyway given at night.

Now question: Does the SK act like a loaf?

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

You're not really helping yourself, anatoly. If you're a townie, then you are even less likely to make a contribution to the town, therefore we would lose even less if you turn out to be telling the truth.

Okay, then

for the town!

I’m not power role, so this will be the best choice.

I’m either:

Mafia OR SK -> Profit
Town -> Profit
Power role -> I would act different.

Just don’t kill me in the next 2 hours. When I’ll be on my computer ill tell you all possible plans and attentions in this game, what I think may happen, etc.

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

Just don’t kill me in the next 2 hours. When I’ll be on my computer ill tell you all possible plans and attentions in this game, what I think may happen, etc.

Okay so, the entire community of this game (ee is being hacked is a nice joke right here) is made of the following:

• Townie

• Seer: See someone's role card

• Doctor: Protect someone from being night killed

• Vigilante: Kill someone (only 2 times)

• Classic cop: See someone's alignment (Seer but less powerful)

• Roleblocker: Block someone from nightkill; is afraid of blocking the serial killer

• Goon

• Roleblocker: Evil Roleblocker; is afraid of blocking the serial killer

• Role cop: ee someone's alignment

• Serial killer: overpowered, only lynch-able

In this case this is the obvious strategy of the Serial killer:

• Kill the Seer, Classic Cop and the Role cop in the first three days.

• As the Mafia can talk, if the Roleblocker (mafia) gets killed they will be able to know who the serial killer is. This is only avoidable if the actual serial killer or the vigilante kill them.

• Avoid being lynched

• Win condition: He and one town stays alive. His probability to win grows up to 50% in the end (He with one mafia alive is an obvious loss for the town, under question is if they win together..)

The strategy of the mafia:

• Wins if the majority is reached. This means 2 towns and 3 mafia. They will be trying to kill the serial killer during the day, as this is one their win conditions. 2 towns, 1 SK and 3 mafia is still a possible path to the SK's win condition.

• Two nights it's possible to kick out 3 players (Vigilante, SK, Mafia). The other nights will be possibly losing 2 players, rarely 1, very rare 0

If we assume that the Vigilante doesn't use his powers, the SK choose someone: 1/13, the Mafia choses someone (actual probability higher due to human psychology): 1/13. The doctor choses someone. (won't be included below: Both Roleblocker may accidentally block the SK. 5 players is the maximal amount of people killed a night; this will not be achieved, more likely is 2 or 3.)

The probability that only one person gets chosen is 1/169. That means with a probability over 99.4% 2 players will be killed next night. For the doctor it gives a probability of 2/13 to heal someone. The probability that a mafia player gets lost is 3/13, which is pretty small, killing another townie today would be absolutely FATAL.

!nolynch

Back to the strategy of the mafia:

• Every day the chance to lynch the serial killer grows: 1/13 (today), 1/11, 1/9, 1/7 (day 4 would be only 5 players if vigilante uses his powers)

• But also, everyday, the chance for the Roleblocker to get died grows.

• This means that this mafia member is worth only by the amount of people in game.

• The mafia will be trying to throw their role blocker under lynchment up to the end.

Our strategy, comments..:

• There are 13 players but only 10 roles. This means, if I'm not wrong that 4 towns are in game.

• Back to my favourite subject - math. As for sure, two players will be eliminated next night (as already said, the probability for one person to get killed is less than 0.5%...): This means the vigilante should only use his powers starting after day 2 or even better 3. Up to that moment, do not even think of your powers and pretend powerless.

• Seer: There's nothing wrong with you, there is no role to see if someone used their power, there is no role to see if someone came to someone at night. You may want to look at  Norwegian. Pretty sure he is happy that he has a power role. Just on what side he is, not really clear.  TaskManager is obviously not happy with his Town role. I really have big suspects about Norwegian. I'm not sure whether we just end the day or go on with him (me or peace - Luka). His behaviour is really noticing, but this could be also, because he died last night in N1...

• Kirby doesn't look Mafia, as he is just lynching (sorry, peace), someone who is suspected to ruin the game, like peace, etc. Kirby = probably town. But in the last game he posted less when he was on the side of the town..

• TaskManager is NOT in Kirby's team (other than both being town )

• @everyone don't want to have a nolynch today. This does give good information. According to the Moderator this was the log of votes:

Log of votes today: (not on same team, or both town)

Kirby > Peace
Jawapa > Onjit
Onjit > Jawapa
Me > mutantdevle (another of my suspects, will explain below)
TaskManager > Me

Current votecount:
[1] peace: Kirby
[1] mrjawapa: Onjit
[1] Onjit: jawapa <= You have forgotten this, try at least showing that you're moderating the game... #19. Do you read what we post???
[1] mutantdevle: Anatoly
[1] Anatoly: TaskManager

This gives us:

• TaskManager and mutantdevle are to be suspected on one team. (protection).

• I suspect mutantdevle as mafia

• peace and Kirby, mrjawapa and Onjit are either both town, or one town and opposite role, or one SK and one mafia. But it does give us that they're not both mafia

After this post people will be changing strategy instantly.

But yes, everyone, great job! This day was the most informative day I ever saw.

With this, forget what I told above. (I'm writing with my thoughts, so I may do some mistake, as my thinking changes constantly.)

The mafia may be mutantdevle, Norwegian and someone else.

!lynch mutantdevle

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

Also, I still prefer lynching a person, we may lynch a mafia or SK if we’re very lucky. And if we lynch a town, we can know his/her role, so we can be more sure about the remaining roles. But not lynching means losing a chance to lynch a mafia or SK. So I think we should lynch someone today.

No-one used his night action today.  We don't want to lynch anyone who has a green coloured role. And that makes 9 players who shouldn't be lynched.

9/13 = 0.692.. = ca. 70%

If this night two people die, even if town, next day  7/11 = 0.(63) = 64%. If we lynched a townie today: 6/11 = 0.(54) = 55% which actually makes sense. But still. Today there are 9 towns. This means we will lose 33% of the towns' population over a range of one cycle (day and night). This is NOT something, personally I don't, want to achieve. If we fail to get information next day the probability comes to the following:

If the vigilante is alive, he will be trying to use his powers twice. The SK will have a pretty high chance to hit the mafia. The mafia will hit a town. This will result to 2~3 deaths: 1 mafia and 2 town (likely to), 3 town (if we're REALLY UNLUCKY) or 2 mafia and 1 town, what is highly hard to achieve. 2 mafia (if we're REALLY LUCKY), 2 town (if we're UNLUCKY), 1 mafia and 1 town (if we're REALLY UNLUCKY), this will keep one mafia member in day 3, which seems to be normal, but we still achieve a lose of ~50% of all players.

There's also the possibility for a risky game:

One Lynch today,
with all powers in the night: 3 deaths:
3 players (day Lynch + night actions) will be very likely to end the game too soon.

There's some other behind-thinking calculations I made, but their not that worthy to be listened.

▼RailMat

Current votecount:
[1] peace: Kirby
[1] mrjawapa: Onjit
[1] Onjit: jawapa <= You have forgotten this, try at least showing that you're moderating the game... #19. Do you read what we post???
[1] mutantdevle: Anatoly
[1] Anatoly: TaskManager

I did read it but IDK what he means. It is read like !Inch. That is why he is not in the votecount

Typos don't count, but rule #11 your word is the last, so I won't say anything, right now. I won't say anything, anymore. About that... I will like: Shhh! I won't talk.. About that..

Wow this is such a long post from Anatoly, maybe I’m dumb, but I still don’t understand why you suspect Mutantdevle. You said you don’t want to lynch a town, but for me it still seems like Mutantdevle is town, can you explain clearly please?

I think the main question we should ask ourselves for day 1 is whether we should lynch or not.

Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes.

Wait, how many players are there?

*checks*

13? Okay. Yes yes yes yes yes.

Personally back then i was for ending the day early, but i'm not so sure this time.

There is a huge difference between not lynching day 1 and ending the day early. I can understand if people want to oppose a day 1 lynch on mere principle, but under no circumstances should anyone be wanting to end the day early.

He simply interrupted the fight between TaskManager and Norwegianboy.

Ah yes, TaskManager and Norwegian have been fighting, so pretty much they're not mafia together.

If me being correct, TaskManager is either SK or town.

pretty sure if im rihgt if a orle blocker blocks SK SK kills him instead of choosen target and not both

RailMatt, I think you should list all role cards in the OP.

Serial killer

You are aligned with yourself.

Every night you may !kill an another player.

You are immune for nightkills and role blocks. If a roleblocker blocks you, you will kill them instead of your chosen target.

You win when you are the only living player in town

according to his role cards

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

Ah, yes, if I'm seen as dangerous I will be killed this night, so if I'm correct, I will die the next 2 nights for sure

@DOCTOR: there is no need to protect me, I'm powerless...

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

Oh wait and (sorry for double post),

but

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … image0.png

Lets go on random?

!vote mutantdevle

That picture looks fake and/or rigged!
!lynch Anatoly

I swear it was the first try, I just enter google "random number", 1 to 13, and received 9...

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

anatoly how is interrupting the "fight" between norwegian and myself a scum trait and how can you conclude anyone's alignment from that when it is literally a day 1 **** holy crap
at this point it does seem like youre trying to get mutant out of the game with this parody of an accusation because hes a stronger player and now im also more confident that your "random" picture is actually rigged and isn't just a ****, but a purposeful attempt to get a wagon on him.

You saw me playing my first mafia? You modelled me there.
You saw me playing my second mafia? You said I'm the problem of the universe.
You see me playing my third mafia? Instead of saying that I'm trash, while I'm not, give me advises. I talked to someone that day. He was the only one who supported me that day, and I am thankful. Only thanks to him I won't give up and work with my mafia skills and something even greater than just mafia.

▼Hidden text

https://media.discordapp.net/attachment … nknown.png

I'm not mafia, and I have no idea how to prove that, but looks like you don't read my messages. Maybe you think different, and that's normal. When I made that thread, and asked to PM me, anyone who has trouble with me. Luka did. And I see this as a great sign that we both may still become friend (or non-enemies in any how), you didn't. You say I'm bad, and annoying, but instead of helping me to change, you throw all my mistakes into me. Also this is a game and I'm not going to discuss here your problems with me.

Prodded GreenyMix and ILikeTofuuJoe for inactivity

Dude, 20 hours passed, give them time...

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

Ah yes, gtg, I will be back tomorrow at 7:00 o'clock for 5 minutes (if I survive till then, lol) and at 16:00 for a local at my local time

it's now 16:48 for me

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

I'm townie, again..

But looks like your personal feelings blind you from playing the game?

if you're being annoyed by me being me, than you shouldn't have joined the game.

Ah yes, look!

Taskmanager started it? Detective, check his alignment please.

As Mutantdevle doesn't seem to vote back, I feel like he is not mafia, he doesn't even protect himself.

Norwegian ^ above. May also be not mafia.

An if clause below:

idk how logn we have left (railmat how logn do we have left actualy?) but i think im gonna..
!lynch anatoly
his maths are makign me  a bit like cmon in D1 we can still do some good does he really want to let D1 go? i think form my first expierence a D1 lycnh coudl still help if we do lynch a maffia that means he cant do night actions right?

Obviously peace is mafia in the game.

He pretty much seems to just follow TaskManager's steps.

@The one who considers themselves detective: Check out peace or TaskManager. TaskManager started a vote against me. Peace "just" followed his teammate.

Not really sure about jawapa. He is just jawapa-ish.

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

Ah sorry, I can't delete, that should be centered:

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

^I was making this since #66 was made, I couldn't update the tab, sorry

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

Am I a threat to you? Because I think that you think I am.

Currently my biggest threat are maxi123's personal feelings. They're so harmful.

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

5 votes? We need 2 more and I post my role card. (Or Railmat does that for me.)

Anyway, this game failed, so:

!suicide or !vote Anatoly or !lynch Anatoly or however it's called.

REMEMBER!!! TASKMANAGER STARTED IT

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

Okay but seriously Anatoly, insulting people and saying their personal feelings are getting in the way isn't helping you convince anyone.

I can...

Take a picture of my role card in my PM, I can post it here.

But that is against the rules.

Okay, 1 more vote.)))))))))

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

I will just continue annoying peace, as I'm a dead man anyway.

I am a townie, and the players count will become even: 12.

Today there will be 2 kills. (Both will be towns, but with VERY SMALL probability a threat to us (you, because I'm not a win condition anymore)). There will be with high guarantee 10 players in game, with 4 of them being a threat.

This game is over. The serial killer was a bit too overpowered.

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

this guy amazes me tbh
can we not hammer tho because we still got around 24 hours
!unvote

You disappointed me. You don't want to hammer a townie? Btw. nice strategy. Firstly move all hate to me, and then like "hey I don't want to hammer, im not mafia"

@Crybaby, I now know you how you felt in that game.

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

anatoly i wasnt voting you because of taskmanager at all i was just getting  little tired of your posts and i think you are one of the mafia because of this and you are just pretenting to not be one heck maby ur even the SK

oh gosh.

im “annoying” everywhere. But doesnt matter. good night i go to sleep.

see you in the graveyard.

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

Sorry, I'm dead, but Railmat ^

[1] mrjawapa:

Ehm.... 1 invisible player?

Anatoly

Guest

Re: Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

****, game is **** over, anatoly just posted a PM of mafia chat. god damn it.

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUDDDEEEEEEEEEEEE!

There was only one information you can get from the chat:

TaskManager hates me. - but it's known already

I need to report any hate against me, as if I keep everything in me, it will only be a suicidal for me..., and you did NOT receive anything from it...