John's Departure

XxAtillaxX · 2020-05-12 20:05:04

John wrote:

I can assure you that I have no intentions of owning the game, and will likely become more inactive when school starts up again. I just thought that I could help and move things along. I feel like you should know me enough at this point to know that I don't have malicious intentions (ever), so that makes me a bit sad to be honest that you think that.

I doubt the premise of good intentions by someone who has made terrible mistakes and still, many months later, doesn't recognize that they were mistakes in the first place. You instead decide to double down on those mistakes. You aren't working for the community and in the best interests of the game, you're working for either the interests of Xeno, or yourself. I think you should know me well enough that I don't refrain from speaking out just because someone is nice towards me. I genuinely don't think it is what you make it appear to be on face value. If you'd ask Xeno, he also believes what he's doing is in the best interest of the community.

John · 2020-05-12 20:17:56

XxAtillaxX wrote:

I think you should know me well enough that I don't refrain from speaking out just because someone is nice towards me. I genuinely don't think it is what you make it appear to be on face value.

I respect that about you

2b55b5g · 2020-05-12 20:32:32

peace wrote:

and lets face it if we get a enw owner how long until we start to blame the new owner? 1 month? 1 week? 1 day? 1 hour? 1 min? sooner? 1 sec? 1 nano second???

Haha yes we will surely blame a new owner for no reason

Apparently we can dislike an owner without reason, is that how your brain works?

rat · 2020-05-12 20:32:46

peace wrote:

can you guys sotp blaming john he did noting wrong

#johndidnotingwrong

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SirJosh3917 · 2020-05-12 20:56:19

anyone know where a burger king is i'm very hungry

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Gosha · 2020-05-12 21:11:05

thanks atilla

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Minisaurus · 2020-05-12 21:15:31

My conclusion is that John is completely ignoring us, he will be using our posts to sell to us his reasons, he fully support Xenonetix and will do his best to keep Xenonetix in power, keep the game burried in abuses and mistakes
You say that you want the best for the game, but you bring wood to build houses while EE is being burned down by Xenonetix

Falk

Kkay · 2020-05-12 21:45:38

SirJosh wrote:

anyone know where a burger king is i'm very hungry

where do u live

Zumza · 2020-05-12 21:48:51

Knowingly poking into this hornet hive, I will voice my opinion:

I don't think John is ignoring you, I believe he already took into his account your arguments before coming up with this decision.

He is both a reasonable and a good person, and I personally trust him.

It seems clear that he knows what he got himself into, so I don't understand why we should do these ping-pong of arguments that does no good and stalls everyone's time needlessly.

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Bimps · 2020-05-12 22:06:52

Minisaurus wrote:

My conclusion is that John is completely ignoring us, he will be using our posts to sell to us his reasons, he fully support Xenonetix and will do his best to keep Xenonetix in power, keep the game burried in abuses and mistakes
You say that you want the best for the game, but you bring wood to build houses while EE is being burned down by Xenonetix

Dude are you okay he literally responded to your posts what are you on about

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Minisaurus · 2020-05-12 22:22:32

To make it clear, I think John intentions are good, and he wants to help the game, but this does not fix the broken wing EE have right now, he is supporting the one who broke that wing

Seems that we all agree that John is completely capable to help the game to grow, and make excellent work as a developer, I also believe so (Even I think he is not crucial for the game development)
But as Atilla said, the moment he arrives to help is kinda strange, his intentions can be misinterpreted easily as an attempt for self benefit rather than anything else

My whole point is that the staff effort to keep the game alive does not change the fact that Xenonetix have not shown any intention to change the way he handle staff and the game, Xenonetix is not saying anything about staff quitting, neither introducing new staff, something weird is going on with Xenonetix

John joining the staff only brings more questions and doubts about EE chances to success, since the owner of the game (Xenonetix) remain silent about all of this
John have joined to a staff that seems to have no leader, building a game without a leader can´t bring anything good

skullz17 · 2020-05-13 00:38:04

Oh I get it, so John's intentions are just for self-benefit, but actually his intentions are good and he wants to help the game, but actually Atilla might be right and he just wants to own the game, but at the same time he is supporting Xenonetix and doing his best to keep Xenonetix in power, however in the end his intentions don't matter because Xenonetix won't change his ways, and it's all John's fault for joining the team.

@Minisaurus did I understand your point?

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Minisaurus · 2020-05-13 00:58:12

Partly what I meant, I look in detail your thoughts here:

skullz17 wrote:

Oh I get it, so John's intentions are just for self-benefit (Yes, in the end he is working for his own benefit), but actually his intentions are good and he wants to help the game (Yes, even though he is doing it for himself, he is actually helping the game development in result of it), but actually Atilla might be right and he just wants to own the game (I never said he wanted to own the game, rather I said that his intentions might not be what he claim)
But at the same time he is supporting Xenonetix (Indeed) and doing his best to keep Xenonetix in power (yes), however in the end his intentions don't matter because Xenonetix won't change his ways (Yes, even though John will help the game development, the major issue is still present), and it's all John's fault for joining the team (His fault is to bring Xenonetix in power, now he come back to try to fix his mistake in some extent)

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Pqwerty · 2020-05-13 05:53:20

John,
To put it bluntly, people think you're just a band-aid fix.
Let this be a test of your determination.
Maybe you can prove them wrong.

PS: I hope you know how to or are willing to learn how to make a server because that's the first challenge to fix EEU.

Andymakeer · 2020-05-13 11:54:46

Hmmm guys, is this discussion necessary?

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Yoshi2018 · 2020-05-13 14:45:29

dang i thought this was about john leaving

Snowester · 2020-05-13 16:26:26

This is sort of ridiculous. Where the heck did minisaurus get that John is simply working only for himself and for Xenonetix? I mean I don't see the problems if he's working for Xenonetix but the one thing I'm still perturbed about is that where did you get that John is doing this "just for self-benefit"

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peace · 2020-05-15 07:28:44

can.
we.
stop.
blame.
john.
because.
he.
has.
done.
nothing.
wrong.
its.
his.
choice.
period.

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2b55b5g · 2020-05-15 14:54:05

hey this topic is literally useless

john has already decided to join so what is the point of criticizing him about joining.
it's not like doing that will change his decision.
maybe john can prove his worth this time.

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peace · 2020-05-15 15:00:05

i 101% agree wiht 2b here point;less discussion shouldve already been locked

mutantdevle · 2020-05-15 15:14:56

peace wrote:

can.
we.
stop.
blame.
john.
because.
he.
has.
done.
nothing.
wrong.
its.
his.
choice.
period.

Can we stop blame John,
Because he’s done nothing wrong,
It’s his choice. The end.

N1KF

Andymakeer · 2020-05-15 16:47:32

In Brazil, we say "militou errado" which translates "wrong militancy".

We use that when someone is constantly using bad and repetitive arguments, usually with aggresive tone, towards someone just to receive the attention, with the false intention of being "fighting for a cause".

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Atikyne · 2020-05-15 17:23:32

mutantdevle wrote:

peace wrote:
can.
we.
stop.
blame.
john.
because.
he.
has.
done.
nothing.
wrong.
its.
his.
choice.
period.
Can we stop blame John,
Because he’s done nothing wrong,
It’s his choice. The end.

If you say "period" right you can make it 2 syllables

mutantdevle, AllenCaspe9510

rat · 2020-05-15 18:58:33

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

hey this topic is literally useless
john has already decided to join so what is the point of criticizing him about joining.
it's not like doing that will change his decision.
maybe john can prove his worth this time.

To add onto that, I believe that unhelpfully criticizing him will only push him more onto Xeno's side. All we can hope for is that he finds out why he shouldn't work for Xeno sooner, rather than later

Boba

peace · 2020-05-16 10:20:03

rat wrote:

All we can hope for is that he finds out why he shouldn't work for Xeno sooner, rather than later

or he already readed all thos rtopics and made then his descission

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