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#1 2017-09-22 05:42:18, last edited by Onjit (2017-10-09 15:02:21)

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Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

Welcome to Mafia 15

Rules
1. All forum rules apply, however multi-posting rules are more lenient. So long as your posts are relevant to the game it shouldn't be an issue.
2. Do not post in this thread unless you are alive in the game. All posts made by dead players and people not in the game will be deleted.
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11. The moderator's word is final. If I say not to do something it means don't do it. If you have an issue then it's best to save until the end of the game as to not interfere with the game.

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Background
The Mafioso Family was once a great crime conglomerate lead by the Godfather. It would meet daily to discuss the progress of its dealings and strategies. However, the unity of the organisation was thrown into disarray when one morning, the Godfather was found dead. Immediately, several factions emerged, claiming to want to lead the crime empire. The Loyalists must consolidate what power they still have if they are to prevent the notoriously aggressive Orange Faction, the sly Blue Faction, and the steadfast Purple Faction, from destroying all that they have worked hard to achieve.

The game will end when one faction controls a majority of the crime conglomerate.


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#2 2017-09-22 14:38:16

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

hi, good

so what sort of strategies can we use here I wonder? maybe there are some crazy roles that spice things up because heynk has a good point, this doesn't make sense

I've thought about games like this before and they just don't work out in my head. Maybe forcing one will prove that one way or the other.

seems more of a **** show than regular mafia because there is no light and dark. just gray.

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#3 2017-09-22 19:40:39

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

!vote heynk

honestly there is nothing to go off of. Obviously anything that hints at being tied to a team is a (praise Creature) WIFOM... which is useless to both the teammates and the lynchmob unless people start dying godawfully fast

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#4 2017-09-23 21:05:32

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

to acquiesce various complaints

hey guys it's night don't post here

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#5 2017-09-25 14:00:23

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

still flying blind
!vote devlin

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#6 2017-09-25 14:30:56

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

jkdrip wrote:

I don't see why Abelysk would lie about someone leaving their team.

or why they'd have any reason to go specifically after devlin? I mean if nothing else just let the cycle consume someone new... well I suppose by lashing out first, you prevent your teammates from getting squished.

if devlin turns up different than what abelysk said then we'd have good cause to hold him to the flame or whatever

devlin how would you suggest we go about finding this larger team that you claim to not be part of?

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#7 2017-09-25 19:37:57

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

Zumza wrote:

I don't know where Slabdrill got the idea that Devlin changed his faction to the loyalists, but I assume that it's a hint.

I don't know where you got the idea Slabdrill got the idea. I'm searching through slab's posts and don't see much to hint that he was concerned in that way

jkdrip wrote:

If he's a useful PR he's going to help his own faction before anybody else

yeah but at the same time it's possible to find the intersection of faction and majority interests.

I still wonder at how the roles are balanced in this game

current vote tally:
devlin - math, emalton, hummerz5, zumza.

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#8 2017-09-25 19:56:24

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

hey btw I thought onjit was being dumb but could these words have significance

"notoriously aggressive Orange Faction, the sly Blue Faction, and the steadfast Purple Faction"

perhaps the first has strong killing ability, the last some sort of resistance to being persuaded?

idek what blue would be. But this would contradict abelysk's claim yes? ... or is he jst being dumb

oh the questions to ask

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#9 2017-09-25 20:01:59

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

jkdrip wrote:

The Protector role HeyNK had fits "steadfast" imo

guess we wouldn't care to sit around and debate specifics all day but I feel the aspect of loyalty is closer than protection

but to be honest I would also say that it's ironic and perhaps an oxymoron to say that a breakaway faction is 'resolutely or dutifully firm and unwavering' especially in a loyalty context.

so idk

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#10 2017-09-25 20:03:06

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

er wait double post
I can see how a faction in itself somehow steadfast to itself would then justify protecting their members

I see your logic

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#11 2017-09-25 20:22:29

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

actually yeah btw abelysk could you share what your role is since you're apparently throwing in the towel?

I'd really like to know who did the recruiting though... ah well

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#12 2017-09-25 20:23:49

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

eh, I g2g and something doesn't add up

!unvote

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#13 2017-09-26 01:03:59

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

so we're thinking factions have similar setups? if we actually don't need to be concerned about one having some OP absorption ability then we can probably just expect that to balance out imo. If we're wrong about that then this game could potentially be over d2 - lynch & NK & swap would make 9 players and 5 in the one team. If we're right about devlin then d2 would be lynch & NK & swap to make 9 and 4, still OK.

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#14 2017-09-26 01:18:47

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

ok so I could go for either slabdrill or devlin for this next vote.

honestly my only problem is that their claims are contentious. As far as I can tell they'd be the same team. My best justification is that they're either last-ditch distancing or slabdrill actually referenced orange and purple as a way to avoid being labeled as blue.

in that case I'm still against devlin but again either way

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#15 2017-09-26 02:43:40

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

we should have prodded martenm a long time ago

what's going on there

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#16 2017-09-26 14:20:46

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

I guess I'm believing Abelysk so does anyone have some business to finish before a hammer?

well I guess we have 72 hours not just 48 but not much sense in dragging things out I guess

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#17 2017-09-26 14:33:52

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

devlin which faction are you that has not gained a player? if you're willing since you're close to lynch and all

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#18 2017-09-26 14:37:13

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

Zumza wrote:

When does this day end btw?

72 hours from about 34 hours ago I think... so 40 hours?

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#19 2017-09-26 14:49:31

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

hmm, if that's the case then your story doesn't quite mesh for me either. anyone want to object to devlin's claim?

I'm not so willing to hammer anymore so I could still be content with slabdrill or devlin

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#20 2017-09-26 14:55:19

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

I picture the recruiting faction to be blue or something. As far as the narrative goes, it wouldn't make sense for the loyalists to have a recruiter because then the group would never have split up

but that's probably not relevant

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#21 2017-09-26 16:19:23

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

actually is that something we can ask God? it'd be useful to know what information we'd get from someone dying

martenm and emalton are now tied for one post way to go

boo on you guys

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#22 2017-09-26 16:31:36

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

MrJaWapa wrote:

If it does, well know if he's switched now that he's claimed loyalist.

MrJaWapa wrote:

Good question. who knows?

Would it make a difference?

OK I'll be honest, I don't entirely follow your logic yet. BUT, yes, it would make a difference to you, I guess, whether or not your logic has a sound base

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#23 2017-09-26 18:02:01

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

oh I'll have a last word here before I'm off to class

devlin is 90% lying. I can't see them making the slip they did that would otherwise complicate their situation. the other 10% is devlin dropped the ball

!vote devlin

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#24 2017-09-29 03:35:58

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

MrJaWapa wrote:

Would it be a good idea for RB to come forward? I feel like it would be if they RB'd the same person.

how many RB do you think there are? it feels like there's so little going on

jkdrip wrote:

Slabdrill left my faction.

so do we go after slab?

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#25 2017-09-29 03:47:34

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Re: Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

MrJaWapa wrote:

Abelysk claimed a shooting role.

if no one comes forward having blocked him that does somewhat put his claim into question given that no one died...

I could go for voting out an Emalton but if jkdrip's claim holds water for the next few hours then I guess we know what to do... might help if someone corroborates his story... wink

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