Mafia 15 [LOYALISTS WIN]

Onjit · 2017-09-22 05:42:18

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Background
The Mafioso Family was once a great crime conglomerate lead by the Godfather. It would meet daily to discuss the progress of its dealings and strategies. However, the unity of the organisation was thrown into disarray when one morning, the Godfather was found dead. Immediately, several factions emerged, claiming to want to lead the crime empire. The Loyalists must consolidate what power they still have if they are to prevent the notoriously aggressive Orange Faction, the sly Blue Faction, and the steadfast Purple Faction, from destroying all that they have worked hard to achieve.

The game will end when one faction controls a majority of the crime conglomerate.

mutantdevle · 2017-09-22 16:50:50

Well uh hi.

This is a game of “if you’re not with me, you’re against me” so I’m not going to claim anything because you all know that at some point during the game you have to kill me. I also must do the same to all of you so don’t take it personally and obviously you have to understand. So sorry HeyNK but I’m voting for you. Every other faction other than your own will benefit from your death so of course we are going to make the most of that.

To my team (ignore if you’re not on my team, kek): I think it’s fine with just 2 of us voting for HeyNK, as hopefully it will confuse other factions if we don’t all vote. But feel free to add to the wagon if you feel like you need to.

mutantdevle · 2017-09-22 16:51:26

Oh I forgot this:

!vote HeyNK

mutantdevle · 2017-09-22 17:23:35

Oh ****...

Welp, my team is at a disadvantage already...

mutantdevle · 2017-09-22 17:57:40

jkdrip wrote:

Just pick a colour you don't like and go after it
I like all of these colours though so someone else can pick

You mean, you don't want to pick the colour because it would confirm you as not that colour? I see what you're up to...

mutantdevle · 2017-09-22 18:29:25

jkdrip wrote:

Orange was one of my high school's colours (I have like 20 orange T-shirts thanks to this)

Orange is associated with your high school? Well, no one likes high school so you don't like orange.

jkdrip wrote:

If there were a yellow faction I 100% would have said "yellow sux get em"

Yellow is similar to orange.

I believe, good sirs, that I have just proven jkdrip is not on the orange team. (Well I do have a 1/4 chance of being correct).

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 07:24:45

Hahahahahahahaha nice try Abelysk.

It’s funny how one of my previous mistakes can actually back me up here. If you recall correctly you would realise that yesterday I made the slip of accidentally letting you know that one of my teammates were already voting for HeyNK. Abelysk voted after me. Also, why would I condemn HeyNK to death so early in the wagon? If Abelysk is on purple team then you can understand why he voted since HeyNK was screwed at that point.

If Abelysk is purple then this will be the 2nd time he’s tried to deceive us. The first being when he voted for HeyNK. Personally I believe that he is on purple as he was originally hesitant to vote.

I don’t know who changed allignment but it certainly wasn’t me. I don’t know about anyone else’s faction but mine doesn’t even have the ability to make people change team. My guess is only 1 faction can do that. For all we know that faction could be purple and hence Abelysk would be trying to throw us off here. I don’t think Abelysk would be the best option to lynch though since for all we know is his team is 1 person down. We could possibly be looking for a faction for 4 players but it’s not me

All I have to say to you Abelysk is, out of everyone in this game (not including your teammates obviously) why choose to try and frame me, meanie

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 14:21:52

Oh wow so Abelysk’s manipulation is actually working? Well then...

So after voting for me:

Purple team will have 2 players.
My team will have 2 players.
One team will still have 3 players.
And another team will have 4 players.

Not only that, but this team with 4 players can recruit another player during the night to get 5 players...

Do y’all see how this isn’t going to end well? Lynching anyone who isn’t on your team isn’t enough to win. It is best for everyone if we go after that team that can increase its player count. Not only should we be hunting that team but we should also be hunting the specific user that can recruit people. That means we actually have to talk to our enemies to do some investigating to find who is the best person to vote for.

Btw @Slabdrill, you said at the beginning of this day that you were role blocked, that means you’re the shooter for your team right? Do you mind telling us who you tried to kill? Because that person was obviously protected and you can’t protect someone twice in a row. Meaning whoever you tried to kill can guarantee be killed tonight.

We might all be enemies, but that doesn’t mean we can’t work together.

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 15:36:30

hummerz5 wrote:

jkdrip wrote:
I don't see why Abelysk would lie about someone leaving their team.
or why they'd have any reason to go specifically after devlin? I mean if nothing else just let the cycle consume someone new... well I suppose by lashing out first, you prevent your teammates from getting squished.

I don’t know why he’d target me specifically but it has to be someone right? I was either chosen at random or chosen because Abelysk (or perhaps his team?) sees me as a threat. And lashing out could have been his tactic. The first person who is voted for would seemingly always be lynched because no one has much reason not to vote for them. Well all that does is benefit the first person to vote who could have been tactical about it. The rest of us just blindly follow them whether or not that specific person being out of the picture is a true benefit to everyone.

Besides, I really don’t get how anyone can think Abelysk isn’t lying, it’s essentially confirmed by my slip yesterday. Jkdrip, you were the one who even pointed my slip out. Are y’all seriously trying to suggest I intentionally made a fake slip to defend myself if I was accused of changing teams? How the hell could I have predicted that... I wasn’t the one who changed teams and it certainly raises some questions as to why Abelysk would accuse me of that.

hummerz5 wrote:

if devlin turns up different than what abelysk said then we'd have good cause to hold him to the flame or whatever

I guarantee my death will say nothing about me changing teams and you won’t learn anything from my death other than that my team has 1 less player.w

hummerz5 wrote:

devlin how would you suggest we go about finding this larger team that you claim to not be part of?

Maybe we should, idk, talk to each other? Trade information. Learn things. Find out which team and which individuals the most people can benefit from exhaling.

We are all enimies here. But the enemy of my enemy is my friend. So in my opinion, that makes us all friends. At, least we are for now. Obviously we all have to betray each other eventually but in the short term we must work together if we don’t want the long term to be down to luck.

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 15:43:29

Oh wow those grammar and word mistakes in that message... (I’m on my phone rn)

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 16:19:36

jkdrip wrote:

Assuming your slip was real and unintentional, it only accounts for one of your team members.

Just think about that for a moment. If I WAS on purple team then who could I have been referring to? Abelysk voted after me and it was HeyNK being voted for. The only way I could be on purple team is if they started on 4 players. As far as we know, all teams started with 3 players and no one has said otherwise. And how could the slip not be genuine? What reason would I have to fake a slip at that point in the game. How could I have possibly predicted this situation... Abelysk is lying to us and there must be some reason for it. I’m not trying to get Abelysk lynched here (hence why I haven’t voted) since purple is already a person down.

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 16:20:36

Ghosted

(Takes a long time for me to write messages in my phone)

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 16:43:55

jkdrip wrote:

In the end, Abelysk is still claiming you left his faction.
I'll unvote and wait for a counterclaim of someone leaving their faction. If none I'll revote Devlin.

Thank you. I'm glad you are willing to see sense. I doubt anyone will counterclaim though since I think most people would be willing to let me die.

To whoever did have someone leave their team: I'd appreciate it if you did reveal as such. Not only would it save me but it would also gain support on whoever actually is a part of the team that now has 4 players.

Different55 wrote:

Devlin wrote:
you won’t learn anything from my death other than that my team has 1 less player.
sounds like a win-win to me. besides your team mates we all want you dead anyway.

Well it's not a win-win though, is it? If we keep lynching players on teams with a lower player count then the recruiter team will just continue to grow until they become a majority.

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 17:20:08

jkdrip wrote:

Give people more time to speak up

I'd just like to add that 'speaking up' doesn't necessarily mean saying who changed team. If there is other information that anyone would like to share then speak up about that too. I have some things to say that may be of benefit to other players but I wouldn't want to give out that knowledge without knowing I would also gain some myself.

If Slabdrill answers my question I asked him on page 3 then I would be willing to share what I know.

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 17:22:22

Okay just re-read Slabdrill's post that my question refers to and realised he doesn't actually claim to be the shooter for his faction.

But basically, if someone shares who their faction tried to kill last night I would be willing to share who my faction tried to kill.

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 17:52:17

MrJaWapa wrote:

Are we assuming every faction started with 3 members, and has one member that can kill?

It certainly seems that way. I'm also willing to bet every faction has a role similar to HeyNK's (or a role blocker?) as that would have been the cause of no one dying last night.

MrJaWapa wrote:

Is there any reason not to lynch Devlin? Even if he wasn't the one that switched factions, it would be a step towards wiping out one faction.

We can say that about literally anyone. But the objective isn't to wipe out factions it's to reduce the player count of each so that your own has a majority.

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 18:07:21

I have no doubts that Abelysk is purple. What I know isn't true though was that I was ever a part of purple. Abelysk still has another teammate which has yet to come forward.

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 18:35:53

Zumza wrote:

I don't know where Slabdrill got the idea that Devlin changed his faction to the loyalists, but I assume that it's a hint.

Are you saying that Slabdrill is a loyalist and hence would know if I become a part of his faction?

Zumza wrote:

(expect Devlin if he makes a vote-count he wouldn't get that benefit)

Rude

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 19:13:32

jkdrip wrote:

The thing with that logic is that somebody else would KNOW if he's lying, and hence he would immediately become a night target.

He'd still only be a faction of 2 though. There would still be 2 factions out there with 3 players. I know my faction specifically mentioned trying not to get a purple member with our night kill (not that we knew who was on purple, we just made a joke / hoped we didn't get one of their members with our kill). Personally, I think factions with a higher player count are more of a threat than liars.

jkdrip wrote:

Making the thing about Devlin up isn't a good play.

I agree. Not to mention it's not nice for me

Zumza wrote:

vote Devlin we don't really have anything to loose...

Except, idk, putting yourself in a worse position for the rest of the game and maybe potentially handing over a majority to the recruiting factions?

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 19:43:25

jkdrip wrote:

But, if it turns out Abelysk is lying, he's most likely on the team with the higher player count

I forgot about the possibility that purple could be the faction with the recruiter. We kinda assumed that since it was Abelysk claiming someone left his team he couldn't be the team that someone joined. That would make sense strategically though would it not? The recruiter would have had time to think about their role and realise that whoever they recruit would be exposed as leaving a faction. So instead, why not jump in and 'expose' someone else first? I'm more inclined to believe that now. It still doesn't explain why no one would counterclaim though :/

jkdrip wrote:

If he's a useful PR he's going to help his own faction before anybody else
Kinda like every single one of us

Yeah lol

I do seem to be the only player willing to compromise with other factions though...

hummerz5 wrote:

Zumza wrote:
I don't know where Slabdrill got the idea that Devlin changed his faction to the loyalists, but I assume that it's a hint.
I don't know where you got the idea Slabdrill got the idea. I'm searching through slab's posts and don't see much to hint that he was concerned in that way

This post:

Slabdrill wrote:

so devlin was the other purple person? got it. You're probably the purple killer though, not sure if everyone would get blocked tomorrow though....
this game is pretty weird - i assume the loyalists are the cause of this mess.

He says how he thinks the loyalists are the cause of the mess; I'm not sure if he means the person who moved teams or the lack of deaths though. I guess Zumza is under the impression he meant the person who changed teams.

Mind clarifying this for us though @Slabdrill?

What do you mean by 'mess' and what makes you assume it was the loyalists doing?

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 20:00:39

I think y'all might be on to something here.

If I had to guess, then perhaps the blue faction has roles that are deceptive?

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 22:00:47

Slabdrill wrote:

Zumza wrote:
I don't know where Slabdrill got the idea that Devlin changed his faction to the loyalists, but I assume that it's a hint.
The three colored factions seem to be structured pretty similarly (one nightchat + one kill + one other) from the two that I know, plus the loyalists have no real description in the OP and seem different from the rest in general.

Slabdrill wrote:

The three colored factions seem to be structured pretty similarly (one nightchat + one kill + one other) from the two that I know, plus the loyalists have no real description in the OP and seem different from the rest in general.

Slabdrill wrote:

from the two that I know

Slabdrill wrote:

two

How could you possibly know the structures of 2 different factions?

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 22:11:40

Slabdrill wrote:

judging purple from the one rolecard we got, it's pretty similar to my rolecard which means i assume that all the parts that are similar are basically the same as mine

I wouldn't really describe knowing 1 role of a faction as knowing their entire structure though...

Also, you just confirmed yourself as a protector variant of your faction... I'm not saying that was a bad decision but you should probably get all your thoughts out before the end of today. Just sayin' revealing that will probably get you shot tonight. Alternatively, you could tell us who your faction tried to kill last night to increase our list of players who would definitely die if we shot them; because so far that list consists of just you.

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 22:13:52

!protect one other player. This will protect them from any actions against them.

I just realised. Does this mean if someone is being protected they cannot be persuaded to join another faction?

mutantdevle · 2017-09-25 22:25:13

Slabdrill wrote:

I don't see how that confirms me as a protector-type, as from what i can tell, all of the "normal" rolecards are basically the same

Slabdrill wrote:

judging purple from the one rolecard we got, it's pretty similar to my rolecard which means i assume that all the parts that are similar are basically the same as mine

I thought this was you stating HeyNK's role was similar to yours but slightly different, but I'm guessing you just meant it's worded similarly?

Slabdrill wrote:

also now im susp of devlin because they shouldve known that

Should have known what? That all the role cards are basically the same? That the protector protects you from joining another team? That post was kinda ambiguous.

If you mean that all role cards are the same then I wouldn't have known that. My team didn't post their exact role cards in the chat they just said what they can do.

If you mean that protectors protect from team changes then how would I know that? The way people read and interpret text is different for each person. When I read 'protect' I didn't think about preventing team changes because I didn't know team changes could even happen (did you?). I was thinking more along the lines of protection from death. It's not even confirmed that that's how it works, for all we know 'actions' could just refer to being shot.

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