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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

Why dooes everybody kill Luka504? Luka504 a question to you: Are you Mafia? (If Mafia exists, lol)

Luka504

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

Luka504 a question to you: Are you Mafia? (If Mafia exists, lol)

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No.

So far i'm picking up some scummy vibes from the people who let RNG decide who to lynch.

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Anatoly

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

Luka504 a question to you: Are you Mafia? (If Mafia exists, lol)

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No.

So far i'm picking up some scummy vibes from the people who let RNG decide who to lynch.

You know... I believe you! JaWapa was the one who started this, I'd suggest everyone to vote for Jawapa, as he was the one who started the trouble!

Btw. If after your death you will be a peaceful user I guess everyone will be against JaWapa. But you will not be able to speak then anymore

Different55

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

So far i'm picking up some scummy vibes from the people who let RNG decide who to lynch.

Only because RNG says you. D1 you have nothing better to go on than RNG.

Then again the stuff I said about not lynching D1 also applies to RNG lynching.

Step 1: lynch w/ RNG because nothing to go on
Step 2: lynch w/ RNG because still not really anything to go on
Step 3: most likely lose w/ RNG.

That said, not lynching is a bad idea, and expecting someone to just accidentally "hey look at me I'm scum" on D1 is kinda ridiculous. I'm sticking to my RNGuns for D1.

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Anatoly

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

One question: Who is RNG?

Harmonious

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

Alright, so here's what I see of everyone's actions, in the order of first posts.

▼EvilBunny

Asked for a playlist and said "I think it's hummerz" right off the bat. Most likely a joke.

▼Onjit

Made a joke. Next post pointed out editing and isolation were borked. Next post bandwagoned on claiming a vanilla town role. Next post changed his mind, claiming a pistachio role. Next post was a sarcastic "wow great start." Next post pointed out suspicions to Luka504 (might hav been a joke idk), and admitted he doesn't fully agree with lynching on day one.

▼Luka504

Made a joke. Next post pointed out his unapproval of voting d1 via rng. Next post went more into detail. Next post pointed out his suspicions to jawa and jkdrip, voting for jkdrip. Claimed not mafia, expressed suspicions of those who went with the RNG (so Jawa/Diff fully committed w/a vote, jkdrip started to bandwagon).

▼AlphaJon

Made a joke telling N1KF to not kill him. Joked in response to jkdrip saying everyone sounded delicious. Made a joke while simultaneously possibly trying to get a bandwagon off of him (saying his flavour was lemon not strawberry bc SB = mafia). Made a joke.

▼Different55

Claimed a vanilla townie role. Explained why we d1 lynch to Slabdrill. Made a joke. Went further into detail of why we d1 lynch. Said "all hail RNG" and voted for Luka, bandwaggoning w/jawa. Further explained d1 lynches and why Luka504 is against.

▼MrJawapa

Bandwaggoned claiming a vanilla townie role. Had RNG decide that Luka should be the d1 lynch. Voted for Luka.

▼Slabdrill

Bandwaggoned claiming a vanilla townie role; asked why we d1 lynch.

▼jkdrip

Claimed crazy townie role (1/2 bandwagon??). Made a joke. Tried to start a bandwagon to get AlphaJon to be the d1 lynch. Mentioned he doesn't care who gets lynched, he just wants to agree on somebody; asked if that somebody was Luka. Next post tried explaining he just wants the game to progress, took his vote for AlphaJon back.

▼hummerz5

Made a joke ending w/suggesting AlphaJon is mafia. Mentioned he thinks that any "pushes" that have happened thus far were sarcastic, said Luka should appreciate that we have 24h to lynch someone.

▼AnatolyEE

Made a pretty meaningless post. Then mentioned he asked Gosha if he should post for him but Gosha said no. Made a joke saying to exclude him from the RNG. Next post posted his results of the RNGx10. Explained how he thinks you can discern mafia on d1. Expressed suspicions of EB, voted for EB. Agreed w/Luka's logic in suspicious people, again expressing suspicions of EB. Pointed out that we can't be sure if the RNG was jawa's first try. Explained what he thought of the votes so far, changing his vote to jawa. Questioned why everyone was targetting Luka. Agreed with Luka, saying that those that agree with RNG are suspicious; said that if after Luka dies and is revealed to be a townie, Jawa will be more suspicious. Made a joke.

▼Devlin, Processor, Gosha

None have posted. Gosha is banned.

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Anatoly

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

Okay I gooogled it, sorry for double posting.

So far i'm picking up some scummy vibes from the people who let RNG decide who to lynch.

Only because RNG says you. D1 you have nothing better to go on than RNG.

Then again the stuff I said about not lynching D1 also applies to RNG lynching.

Step 1: lynch w/ RNG because nothing to go on
Step 2: lynch w/ RNG because still not really anything to go on
Step 3: most likely lose w/ RNG.

That said, not lynching is a bad idea, and expecting someone to just accidentally "hey look at me I'm scum" on D1 is kinda ridiculous. I'm sticking to my RNGuns for D1.

If you use RandomNumberGenerator Day 1 it will not help you. Because in D2 you got nothing, use it, D3 nothing, use it. I suggest instead of using RNG, go with my hints and try to catch players. Every player (including mafia) is going to say always that he isn't Mafia. If you use RNG, it will be a mislynch 100%. (Actualy MafiaPlayers/TotalPlayers %,  but anyway).

I suggest you tell us something about yourself, roles, etc. Maybe we can catch a lie.

mrjawapa

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

I'll post in a couple hours. @luka

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Different55

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

I suggest you tell us something about yourself, roles, etc. Maybe we can catch a lie.

In none of the mafia games have I ever lied. I already said I'm vanilla townie, don't think I've ever actually had this role before.

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Different55

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

Actually I might have lied about being able to win with the town like a few games back when I was a indie serial killer but I still said I was indie I think so that's gotta count for something.

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Luka504

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

I'll post in a couple hours. @luka

Ok executioner.

Tbh this is sad.
Im defending myself from RNG and people are now saying that defending myself from dying is suspicious.
Do i need to explain the stupidness here?
.

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AlphaJon

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

I suggest you tell us something about yourself, roles, etc. Maybe we can catch a lie.

In none of the mafia games have I ever lied. I already said I'm vanilla townie, don't think I've ever actually had this role before.

Oh wait your claim wasn't a joke?
I legit thought everyone was joking around and just went on with my own nonsense

Harmonious

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

I'll post in a couple hours. @luka

Ok executioner.

Tbh this is sad.
Im defending myself from RNG and people are now saying that defending myself from dying is suspicious.
Do i need to explain the stupidness here?
.

I don't think anybody particularly said that was suspicious. This might possibly be, though. But I think everyone who's going with the RNG doesn't really care too much.

!vote Luka

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Anatoly

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

Actually I might have lied about being able to win with the town like a few games back when I was a indie serial killer but I still said I was indie I think so that's gotta count for something.

Me, yes, too, but I am playing the first time, and chances that I will survive the next 3 days is close to 0% (The newbie-hate)

AlphaJon

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

executioner

As in the wiki definition where you essentially have a free "lynch-hammer"?
That doesn't make you town either, just a power role who can be on either side.

Luka504

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

executioner

As in the wiki definition where you essentially have a free "lynch-hammer"?
That doesn't make you town either, just a power role who can be on either side.

No? Executioner as someone who gets a target and needs to get him lynched at all costs?
Once the person is lynched the exe wins and he can do whatever he wants.
It's easy to just say your target was "chosen by RNG" and should be executed because why not.

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

Vote count:

[3] Luka504 - MrJaWapa, Different55, jkdrip
[1] MrJaWapa - AnatolyEE
[1] jkdrip - Luka504

7 votes needed for majority.
The day ends in less than 7 hours.

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Different55

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

I suggest you tell us something about yourself, roles, etc. Maybe we can catch a lie.

In none of the mafia games have I ever lied. I already said I'm vanilla townie, don't think I've ever actually had this role before.

Oh wait your claim wasn't a joke?
I legit thought everyone was joking around and just went on with my own nonsense

No I'm legit town. Never had a role I could just outright claim before. Usually I'm like an indie serial killer or an indie witch or a maf serial killer I don't think I've ever been a powerless townie before.

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

!vote luka

i dont like rng lynching but how else is town gonna win

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AlphaJon

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

No? Executioner as someone who gets a target and needs to get him lynched at all costs?
Once the person is lynched the exe wins and he can do whatever he wants.
It's easy to just say your target was "chosen by RNG" and should be executed because why not.

Well, in that case that makes you a neutral, as you have your own win condition. Mind to tell us who you have to get lynched?

Harmonious

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

No? Executioner as someone who gets a target and needs to get him lynched at all costs?
Once the person is lynched the exe wins and he can do whatever he wants.
It's easy to just say your target was "chosen by RNG" and should be executed because why not.

Well, in that case that makes you a neutral, as you have your own win condition. Mind to tell us who you have to get lynched?

Pretty sure Luka was suggesting Jawa is the executioner.

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mutantdevle

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

omg guys just stop with the RNG votes will you? RNG is not helpful in any way because it is the perfect defence. If luka comes up as townie then everyone will just be like "oh we only followed the RNG, not our fault, sucks to be him". RNG votes get us no where because they provide us with no information other than the people following it are idiots.

By voting for people not through RNG it creates tension and suspicion as well as sparks discussion. Discussion and accusations is what we need because at least that way we can learn things. The way people attack others and the way people defend themselves tells us things. But with an RNG there is nothing we can learn from the attack and defence. Lynching Luka is definitely a bad option at this point in my opinion and I'd be willing to consider anyone who does so as scum.

Based on what I have said above these are my reads:

Gosha - Has already been hammered by a ban hammer so let's not have him hammered in the vote today.
MrJaWapa - Started the RNG mess so slightly leaning scum but I think his actions may have had town intent.
hummerz5 - Their general attitude seems different to previous games so I'm saying meta as a role other than vanilla townie but realistically probably townie.
Different55 - Leaning towards scum due to hypocrisy / flawed logic. I have a derp feeling he's vanilla townie though.
jkdrip - Behaviour seems noobish but shows understanding of the game, it's roles and how it works. Reminds me of myself in my first game but just not as aggressive / talking as much. Town.
Slabdrill - Can't really tell since they haven't said much but due to their vote on Luka I am leaning towards scum.
luka504 - Victim of the RNG, can't really defend themselves against that. Due to this I consider them town until they actually do something wrong and not just be unlucky.
Evilbunny - Can't really tell from 1 post that includes a typical day 1 joke.
AlphaJon - Noob. Noobs are almost always town.
Onjit - Doesn't seem to want a D1 lynch. D1 lynches are in the best interest of the town so this thought is a thought against the town (scum) but is understandable so hence I can't really make a judgement.
AnatolyEE - Noob that seems to be trying and want to contribute; that's indicative of town in my opinion.
Processor - Wake up. (obviously can't really tell since they have said nothing).

Devlin - Can't really tell since they are yet to comment oh now they have

Maxi - I still think this kid is scum from the first game I played.

If anyone wants to justify my thoughts against individuals feel free to ask. My basic conclusion from this is don't vote Luka just because a stupid RNG said so.

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AlphaJon

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

My bad then, I misread.
I still feel like following the crowd for the first day, because I have no clue who to actually lynch, so if people are against you, I'll vote against you too. That applies for everyone, in the case people start switching votes.

Different55

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

If you think Jawapa's an executioner out to get you I could re-roll, but we're on a limited time budget.

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

so we have like 5.5 hours from this post I think and I don't think we have enough time to switch targets

!vote Luka504

also I'm going to posting only from mobile for a couple days so excuse any typos I guess

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