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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

I'm going to bed now, but before doing that, I'd like to point out that slabdrill has done nothing but vote all game long. Seriously, it just feels like constant bandwagoning.
I mean just look at his posts in isolate mode. (why is the isolate parameter even encoded in such a way?)

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

@alphajon why did you roleblock me instead of one of one of the people that had been close to being lynched?

Because I didn't feel like blocking Devlin, and I didn't want to roleblock an obvious target, in an attempt to block the mafia kill in a way that would be unpredictable for them. I was slightly suspicious of you, so that's it.

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

What's the vote standing? I heavily looked into the possibility of JaWapa flipping either side, but ultimately I consider the lynch to be necessary if we want to make progress. I know some people will consider me responsible if JaWapa does ends up town, but that's a risk I'm willing to take for the game as a whole.

I'm not voting in this post though because I don't know if we are L-1.

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

What progress is going to be made by me being lynched?

If you're not lynched, what happened today is just going to repeat itself during D3, as in some will want to lynch you again, and ultimately we will have lost a day. Lynching you will allow us to move on, along will the information that will come with your lynching.

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

What information?

Whether you are actually town or mafia. I believe in the latter. And I don't want to lose D3 repeating myself over what could or could have not happened if we lynched you.

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

My opinion is still strongly against JaWapa, but I am willing to vote out Slabdrill for his constant bandwagoning and complete lack of actual contribution.
Relevant post from Diff55 on D1:

claiming vanilla townie what now

also whats the point of d1 lynches anyway everyone knows they dont lead to anything

step 1 don't lynch d1 because you don't have anything to go on
step 2 don't lynch d2 because you still don't really have anything to go on
step 3 rinse and repeat for every day until maf wins

good job you win at maf

Other than that, I can also see myself voting one of the inactives, because they are hindering us by essentially making the lynch vote count requirement higher with no upside. (Remember a nolynch is a mafia free kill)

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

Ok, let me start off the day by saying that I made a huge mistake regarding JaWapa. Some things didn't make sense but I still pushed on my initial claims against him. And I'm sorry about that.

MrJaWapa's grave has been robbed and their body is missing!!

Wtf happened here?
Could it be JaWapa had a hidden ghost-like power which doesn't appear on the role card? Something's fishy here.
Or there is a Vigilante or Serial killer.

Should I reveal who I blocked tonight right away?

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

I wanted to wait for more people posting before saying who my target was, but OK.
It was Onjit.

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

may I ask why you decided to role block Onjit? I never really saw him as a suspicious player so I would like to know your reasoning behind it.

Unpredictability, and I considered him not active enough so I wanted to see if anything was going on.
Note that if there is a serial killer, may be immune to roleblocks by nature of the rolecard. IIRC there are also some variants where the roleblocker gets killed if he targets the serial killer.

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

so alphajon can yell at me for giving too many people town status

That one made me laugh, good job

I am suspicious of slabdrill too during most of D2, but I guess most of his posts being just votes and bandwagoning can be explained by a lack of will to make his own opinion on the town?

Imo proc is an inactive town at best, and inactive scum at worst. His activity comes in "small bursts" but that's about it.

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

@proc: I hope you didn't take in a bad way my way of speaking about your activity. I can completely understand, and maybe I poorly worded it, but my intent was saying that people shouldn't use your activity as a scumread.

I'm 90% sure that there is only 1 mafia left, which will make finding the last one easier, as he can be the only one killing. However, there are a lot of unknown things regarding those neutral roles or remaining PRs. The  second kill may be a serial killer, a vigilante or something related to JaWapa.

About Gosha: @everyone voting him: what are your reasons? Why gosha in particular? I don't understand what's happening. (Yes I'm on my way towards being the village idiot)

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

Mafia wouldn't kill jkdrip, one of their own, so they must have attacked Different.

A townie vigilante killing jkdrip doesn't have much sense though, because if I recall correctly, noone was really suspicious of him. (right?)

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

Note to above post: I don't mean in any way jkdrip being a traitor kill inside mafia.
I just believe his death to be caused by a neutral role more than by a vigilante

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

^ d1 they go after luka because claim. real healer heals luka because illusion

d2 they go after not luka because they expect them to be re-healed. healer can heal alphajon

a whimsical theory but not "literally no sense" as far as I see

I don't know, luka claimed quite early on, and if he was lying, a counterclaim would have put him in a very bad spot

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

I noticed discussion about some plans on what the PRs should do. I'm going to stop you right there. I don't like having my actions predictable to the point where scum can act around it and effectively trap my target, so like previous nights, I'm going to choose someone by myself and reveal it the following day.

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

So basically you won't follow Evilbunny's plan?

I don't think having everyone follow his plan is the best idea, because guess what, that kind of plan doesn't work when the opposition also knows it.

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

I guess JaWapa is haunting Kira now.

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

I didn't block anyone tonight because there is only one enemy, and it happens he probably has to kill me if I had targeted him.
That said,
!vote Processor

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

Yeah 4 town PRs is way too much against essentially 3 scum, well technically 4 but one was modkilled.
Hummer being able to identify people that easily made the balance even worse

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

Oh by the way, why was anatoly modkilled?
Meanwhile Luka wasn't which skewed the balance even more

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Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

Pls wait a bit before the next game

I will create the signup thread in 10 days, is that good or should I wait longer?

Nah it's OK, just in time for me to make a new one in 9 days.