Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]

Different55 · 2017-08-09 21:45:23

If you had some honest insight as to what's going on you would have said it already. Waiting for you after you hit L-1 is just delaying.Someone hammering you doesn't mean they're scum, it just means we don't have the time to be waiting around. No scum is going to risk outing themselves over trying to cover up nothing of significance.

Different55 · 2017-08-09 21:51:35

Alright and if you don't speak before the day ends? There goes a whole day because you conveniently went MIA and nobody wanted to be labeled scum. That seems like a pretty town-harming and scummy tactic to me.

Again, no scum is insane enough to try and cover up nothing. If you had something, you would've said it by now. Hammering you proves nothing and can only possibly be a stalling tactic.

Different55 · 2017-08-09 21:55:22

Devlin wrote:

I want y'all to lynch me

"but just remember if you do, the hammerer is scum"

Different55 · 2017-08-09 21:56:55

Wait that'd a terrible tactic what am I thinking

If you're scum you're the worst scum.

Evilbunny

Different55 · 2017-08-09 22:04:23

Yeah that'd be the dumbest tactic.

!unvote
!vote Slabdrill

No particular reason. I think MrJawapa and EvilBunny and Devlin are town aligned, I'm not sure about anyone else.

Different55 · 2017-08-09 22:39:16

20 minutes left, don't miss the chance of a lifetime

Different55 · 2017-08-09 22:40:26

tfw ninja'd.

that vote chart looks even worse than I thought it would

can we go back to luka let's at least try to get someone out who doesn't even want to play

!unvote
!vote luka

Different55 · 2017-08-09 22:47:01

hummerz5 wrote:

slabdrill they have posted. At least once. ... did you read my post?
but diff if they are the doctor I mean better to replace themk

I mean I'd rather see him replaced but tbh I'm not sure what I'm doing right now because we have like 2 seconds left and there's not anything we can do at this point.

Different55 · 2017-08-09 22:47:35

Wait are we doing the slabdrill thing after all

!unvote
!vote Slabdrill

this is insane

Different55 · 2017-08-09 22:47:55

oh my gosh are you kidding me

Different55 · 2017-08-09 22:49:33

hummerz5 wrote:

yeah but lynching a person who doesn't want to play isn't the right reason. If nothing else, they're fodder that the mafia has to go through.
I could do a slabdrill vote... that would make three then...

Too late jkd has abandoned us. But yeah I agree with you. If nothing else we can use him as a meat shield.

Different55 · 2017-08-09 22:52:39

9 minutes go go go

Devlin wrote:

Lynch Luka now, Slabdrill can be lynch tomorrow if necessary. We have to consider the people who will be online in this final 10 minutes and jkdrip can't change his vote and Slabdrill won't vote for himself. Luke is our only option if we want to lynch.

bad idea I'm with hummerz now. If he's doctor he has a maf target on his head. Lynching them is doing the maf's job for them, better to go after someone else rn. If he wants out he'll be out either way by lynch or by maf. Better to waste some of the maf's time doing it.

hummerz5, mrjawapa

Different55 · 2017-08-10 23:29:01

I'm guessing we can blame/thank the alleged doctor for that?

Different55 · 2017-08-10 23:41:07

MrJaWapa wrote:

"Also @Luka I'm hoping this is going to be a you or Evilbunny vote so I guess that means you gotta side with me." - Devlin
This was to allow Luka to vote for EB without it looking like he was blindly following Devlin.

Huh. This is actually a bit suspicious. I think it's unrealistically lucky that we would have happened to try and go after 2 maf in one day. Although I guess we did actually go after Devlin for odd behavior.

But that is an interesting theory you got there. Assuming Luka is maf, that means RNGesus tried to save us all. And if Devlin is maf too that means Devlin is the literal Satan trying to pull us away from RNG's light and manipulate us onto a townie.

Going to hold off my vote for now, we got 72 hours and plenty of interesting stuff to discuss apparently.

Different55 · 2017-08-10 23:51:28

MrJaWapa wrote:

"Sorry Devlin but I cant be bothered. I consider you and Anatoly town and everyone else is a scum." - Luka

Missed that one. That one combined with Anatoly's one off odd quote is definitely something to be wary of.

It can't be that easy though, right?

Different55 · 2017-08-11 16:40:59

Onjit wrote:

As for neutral roles, if there is one, I'd say it'd probably be an executioner, since it seems unlikely that two kills were stopped in the same night.

Neutral roles don't have to be killing roles, there was that one game I was a witch or something, basically my win condition was just to survive.

Onjit, Slabdrill

Different55 · 2017-08-11 20:05:20

Friendly reminder that deleting posts is against game rules.

It's also now impossible.

Different55 · 2017-08-11 20:09:26

Friendly reminder that editing posts is also against the rules. That's still possible tho at least for the moment because there's a big obvious "EDITED BY XXXX AT (XXXXXXXXXXX)" message and I think it'd be funny if someone tried to do that and then end up getting kicked out of whatever.

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AnatolyEE wrote:

Answer to D2
#203
MrJaWapa wrote:
"I am completely at Luka's protection..." - Anatoly
Sorry if you understood me wrong, but I heard of RNG lynches for the first time, and I thought like you were Mafia. I started to protect Luka because you started the RNG lynch. I told earlier that RNG is just bad and looking at psychics, like you did now.
#215
hummerz5 wrote:
pretty bad advice, mrjawapa. Should we look closer at why you said that? I mean if luka's an important role then we'd just as soon have them not dead. But a doctor should probably not really come forth because they're the defense.
Is there someone like a Detective in the Game? Or someone who can check if JaWapa has a power role? It would be the case to proove him. However:
#218
MrJaWapa wrote:
Did you read my post on why I'm confident Luka, Devlin, and Anatoly are mafia?
Then lets lynch anyone of us three, kill a townie, and exclude us from being mafia. I support your idea.
!vote AnatolyEE But I support hummerz5 that you exactly now spoke for the doctor and try this again:
!vote JaWapa
#225
AlphaJon wrote:
Luka said he healed Devlin, which makes me believe it was indeed a roleblock, because I don't see mafia targeting Devlin.
Let's dont exclude this theory. If mafia indeed attacked Devlin, then there should be a reason. It could be invisible hidden in D1 i guess, however 3 theories come out:
Red means Mafia, Blue is the victim
JaWapa attacked Devlin
JaWapa attacked anyone
Somebody else attacked Devlin
This 3 bullet points come out with the knowledge that:
AlphaJon - says he is roleblocker; roleblocked JaWapa
Luka504 - says he is doctor, healed Devlin
Nope that's not enough. I don't believe that JaWapa is Mafia, but it looks like.
#239, #241
Evilbunny wrote:
[...]
Anatoly
I think I might just be too trusting because all those people haven't posted much and that's my only reason to not clear them lol.
Evilbunny wrote:
as possible mafia suspects. Thoughts?
Yeah sorry for posting so less... And no, I'm not Mafia, I'm virtually playing Mafia for first time, and it looks like reacting in the web is lot of harder then in reallife. I always try to catch my friends when playing Werewolf on speed, works sometimes, but here you can't see if people laugh or are terrified. Lets exclude Gosha from the list. He is banned, and it won't help killing him, because we simply got nothing. I'd like to point out that i'm Vanilla Townie, friendly, but I don't know much of you, that could be because i skipped something important or I'm just not as professional finding mafia is i thought.
#242
MrJaWapa wrote:
Whether gosha is maf or not, he's incapable of hurting the town... he's incapable of doing anything. I guess we could lynch him for the hell of it.
Onjit has racked up a total of 2 useful posts. I've chalked it up to him not really wanting to play.
Slabdrill hasn't done anything that stands out to me.
Anatoly hasn't been particularly helpful. And all of this makes me believe he's mafia. I'd be okay lynching him.
As I already mentioned as a reply to #203: I was annoyed of you attacking someone randomly, i mean we lose if Mafia eliminates everybody of non-mafia. So I guess RNG seems Mafia Styled. Agaib, sorry for not knowing the RNG System. I didn't played earlier Mafia on this Forum and i don't know if RNG is really always used...
#249
hummerz5 wrote:
11. AnatolyEE - feels like genuine newb townie. odd but sometimes not going with the flow is good, right? contrasting
That was my lifestyle always. I never read news, and in class I didn't listened in Details, also it would be helpful to me to go with the flow, like you say, if you stop using strange abbreviations. RB'd is roleblocked i got it, but what is EB, QD, etc..
#250
▼Onjit wrote:
Alright, I'm back from uni, so I can actually make a long post
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Right now we have two main stories:
Luka (doctor) protected Devlin
and
AlphaJon (roleblocker) blocked Jawapa
---
This raises a few questions:
1) Who was the mafia's target?
2) Are either of these claims true, and if so, which one?
---
MrJaWapa wrote:
Also, I asked for RB to come forward earlier. I wouldn't have done that knowing I was RB'd. That's even dumber.
This suggests to me that Jawapa didn't know he was role blocked, so I'd ask
3) @maxi: how detailed are you with night feedback?
Because if Jawapa wasn't actually roleblocked, then that obviously leads to suspicions that Alphajon's claim is false (which would mean that devlin was definitely the target).
Of course on the flipside, if he actually was roleblocked, which would make it uncertain who the actual target was.
---
Also, I'm not sure if either of them have been online, but what specifically was shared between Luka and Sapizza and Devlin?
Because as it stands now, it seems to me that Luka's claim has been effectively confirmed by Maxi calling them out on it.
ie. I don't think Maxi (as a host trying to balance the game) would want to just nuke one of the town's strongest roles on D2.
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Final thoughts:
Luka's claim is true
Alpha's claim is dubious to me at the moment
Jawapa's talk about specific words on the role card seems like a stretch, but it could be either way. Seems like an odd gambit to pull as scum though. It's almost the equivalent of saying "my role card has green text on it just like yours so therefore i'm town"
I dunno, I'm probably looking at the wrong things :/
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As for what the setup is, to answer Hummerz's question
We (supposedly) know two of the roles from the town: Doctor, RB
I'd assume that Maxi went for a pretty standard setup, so I'd say there's like an investigator on the town as well, either a role cop or just an alignment cop
There might be a Vig in the town as well, depending on how powerful he made the mafia. At any rate, because there wasn't a kill N1, we can assume that if there is a vig, they're not in the hands of a nub.
As for the mafia, I'd say that there's likely 2 of the following: Cop, RB, Watcher, Framer
I'd think that the third member would probably be either a Goon or a Backup.
As for neutral roles, if there is one, I'd say it'd probably be an executioner, since it seems unlikely that two kills were stopped in the same night.
Also a 10v3 setup is more balanced than a 9v3v1 setup imo
Of course this is all speculation, because who knows, there might be no mafia at all! (what a dumb idea)
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I might post a full list of readings later if anything interesting comes up/lurkers actually post something
Okay I have excluded "2) Are either of these claims true, and if so, which one?" when replying to 225. If Luka or AlphaJon lied, then (obviously) their Mafia, because for what reason should they lied, then... It's not helpful right? Lets say they don't lie. Then there's a big chance that JaWapa is Mafia, also as a reply to 242, he told that I am Mafia. However lets take the fact the he said I am Mafia because I was protecting Luka (he told it in #203), but when he found out that Luka isn't Mafia (at least he said that) he continued attacking me. I'm surprised because the reason of why I should be Mafia staid, but it's condition became wrong, he continued telling I am Mafia. No, don't understand me wrong, I say that JaWapa is surely not Mafia, but this step is strange for me (Could be because of my low playing experience on the web).
So from this post, I am absolutely sure that: Diff is vanilla townie, Luka is doctor, AlphaJon is RB and JaWapa is against Mafia, but his role is unknown (except he told us he's vanilla townie, so I guess that's it).
So I guess before I even post this:
!voting for nobody – I'm not sure.
EDIT: @JaWapa: Are you the detective? You could proove if I am Mafia next night. Maybe then you will change your mind. But as already said, I'm noob in Mafia because i don't play so often.

Gosha wrote:

wazap!
No votes for now, still need to join the game
I've read all the messages, something weird is going on.

Harmonious

Different55 · 2017-08-12 01:44:35

Devlin wrote:

If jawapa flips scum, investigate diff.

For the love of all that is holy do not. I am townie. Totally unconfirmed but I am townie anyway. We need to find maf and looking at me will just waste a day. Unless you think confirming me being town would do some good.

Devlin wrote:

If jawapa flips town and you haven't investigated me or Luka, investigate me.

If you are scum then what you did D1 was an incredibly risky move. But it paid off, you're still alive.

Idk with Anatoly flipping scum I'm a little more open to JaWapa's Luka x Devlin x Anatoly maf conspiracy theory but honestly I don't have a clue. What Anatoly said to Luka was weird and I guess it's a little odd that Devlin was so against RNG D1 but looking at everyone else I have no idea at all.

Idk could someone sum up what's going on rn? I've been reading through the day but I must have been daydreaming or something while doing it because I have no idea what everyone's talking about when they're saying "Knowing JaWapa's role would be highly beneficial." Is it just because he gave that kinda cheaty quote from the end of his role? Because we got Anatoly's card and it doesn't end with eliminated so that's enough to clear JaWapa IMO. Although I really don't like clearing people that way since it is relying on something that's kinda sorta "outside" of the game.

Going to be doing some more reading and see what I see if anything.

mutantdevle

Different55 · 2017-08-12 06:33:33

AnatolyEE wrote:

I know will be banned for this: But after I was warned I stopped breaking rules. My teammates even blocked me on Discord. 6 hours later, while being asleep, I was modkilled. Maxi: Why you give warnings if you kill me anyway, seriously, you're the worst game moderator ever. Warnings mean you'll be killed tonight.
!vote maxi123
Or better suicide.

You died get out.

Why are you even voting, you're maf and we all know you're maf. No citizen would accept the vote of an undead maf.

mutantdevle, Onjit, Gosha, Luka504, hummerz5, AlphaJon, Harmonious

Different55 · 2017-08-12 16:34:48

Gosha wrote:

Luka504 wrote:
We don't have a better candidate so...
Look at this list
This is how much players are left
must of them are silent af, that's why you don't remember about their existence
hummerz5
Different55
jkdrip
Slabdrill
Evilbunny
AlphaJon
Onjit
Processor
I am sure you are 2 (3 with deviln) town and fight with each other
there are 2 (as far as i know) mafia left and other bad guys like witch (proc) which should be killed
We don't get anything from lynching town

Sorry I'm still just super confused rn.

Also are we ignoring the extremely cheaty stuff that's been happening with role cards and such because that's the only way I'm making sense of what's going on.

Different55 · 2017-08-12 16:45:25

But it doesn't have it as the last word. If JaWapa had a maf rolecard like Anatoly's then it'd be extremely risky for him to go and try to guess a totally different word was the last one of every citizen's card. Unless he's a maf investigator or something which doesn't seem likely.

That said I wouldn't be against ignoring all the rolecard stuff except for Anatoly because that really seems kinda game breaking.

Harmonious

Different55 · 2017-08-12 18:08:29

MrJaWapa wrote:

Proc asked for the last few words.

Then ignore him because that's a scummy way of playing the game.

Different55 · 2017-08-12 18:35:45

Devlin wrote:

MrJaWapa wrote:
Devlin wrote:
disprove your claim either
How so
I'll explain after you've been lynched if I need to. It's too much effort to write it out now because I don't need to defend myself right now.

You need to knock it off with this kind of delaying. I've got no idea why you're all voting for JaWapa and if all you got is "cuz if he's scum then yay, but nah we dont' really have any reason to suspect him at all and if he's town well I'm sure knowing that will come in handy at some point just shut and and vote for him." If you're town you should be helping the town by giving as much info as you can without killing yourself.

Different55 · 2017-08-12 19:49:13

Devlin wrote:

And diff your inability to even see where we are coming from in our push against jawapa is what makes you so suspicious to me.

Had a busy day yesterday, apparently wasn't keeping up as well as I thought. I'm seeing a lot of push against JaWapa with no actual clear reasoning which worries me. Even when asked nobody's really got anything. JaWapa quoting his rolecard is scummy but he's basically confirmed town because of it. Maf card does not match and him just guessing and getting lucky is hardly believable.

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