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#26 2016-08-26 14:48:57

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Re: remove rep

Koya wrote:

I think woots are more relevant to what you read, as the rating only exists on that post and isn't noted elsewhere; they also can't be used for direct harassment and you don't need to write to say "I like what you have said".

I agree with woots, I don't agree them as a counter unless they will be used for something more than just a number.

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#27 2016-08-26 15:53:21

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Re: remove rep

rgl32 wrote:
Koya wrote:

I think woots are more relevant to what you read, as the rating only exists on that post and isn't noted elsewhere; they also can't be used for direct harassment and you don't need to write to say "I like what you have said".

I agree with woots, I don't agree them as a counter unless they will be used for something more than just a number.

I never said I wanted them as a counter, I don't want them as a counter at all!


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#28 2016-08-26 15:56:19

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Re: remove rep

Merged this thread with the poll thread since they're the same discussion; that's why koya double posted.

Also, another idea for a woot counter alternative could be a "greatest hits" type list of posts for each user that displays their top wooted posts, as that keeps woots as a per-post kinds thing


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#29 2016-08-26 15:58:49

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Re: remove rep

Bobithan wrote:

Merged this thread with the poll thread since they're the same discussion; that's why koya double posted.

Also, another idea for a woot counter alternative could be a "greatest hits" type list of posts for each user that displays their top wooted posts, as that keeps woots as a per-post kinds thing

But there are some people who are one hit wonders when it comes to getting woots and it doesn't necessarily reflect them, same with those who get consistent woots but haven't got a load for one post.


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#30 2016-08-26 17:45:34

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Re: remove rep

Napakeun wrote:
rgl32 wrote:

I'd rather have neither, less chance for people to post just to get a higher/better number.

The rep system and woots are similar in that way: people are gonna post more with sarcastic and "trying-to-be funny" posts in an attempt to get woots and +rep.

That's one of the reasons why I liked allowing -reps: I could have my way of giving feedback to those unnecessarily sarcastic, rude, and trying too hard to be "cool" without having to derail the topic (by posting) or get too personal (private messages). I can understand why they were removed(?), though.

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#31 2016-08-26 23:25:54

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Re: remove rep

How about we just have anonymous upvotes and downvotes on posts that don't have forum-wide effects. Think Reddit, but it doesn't modify the order of the posts. That way people can still leave positive OR negative feedback on posts without taking 10 seconds to make a post themselves, but there's no real incentive to "farm" for rep.

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#32 2016-08-26 23:27:33

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Re: remove rep

Kaslai wrote:

How about we just have anonymous upvotes and downvotes on posts that don't have forum-wide effects.

What if woots were anonymous, but not toows?

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#33 2016-08-27 13:31:43

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Re: remove rep

N1KF wrote:
Kaslai wrote:

How about we just have anonymous upvotes and downvotes on posts that don't have forum-wide effects.

What if woots were anonymous, but not toows?

Are you trying to recreate the salem witch trials because that's what it sounds like. The two should be equal or just not exist.


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#34 2016-08-27 16:48:51

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Re: remove rep

my sweet sweet rep //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/sad


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#35 2016-08-27 23:56:34

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Re: remove rep

Hi peeps i decided to wake up from my forum Afkness which i will probs return to when this post is made.
Anywho i understand why you disabled reps, but in my opinion adding a woot system won't exactly fix things.
It will be pretty much the same as the old reputation system, except instead of ,,Haha you have so many downvotes,,
it will be more of a ,,Haha you have so little woots,,
People will still be butthurt how they have little woots while people around them get woots for dang near free.
The reputation system is a popularity game where Pingo might be sitting on a throne of 69 woots, while some people *cough* N1kf *cough* will probably remain at like, 4. And then come the sour tears of jealousy.
And then we will have more topics like ,,Burn the forum rep system!!2!,, ,,I have 0 wootz i call rigged,, , we will lose the rep system, discuss on a new rep system...... Rinse. Repeat.



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#36 2016-08-28 00:14:15

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Re: remove rep

can we just like keep the whole thing as is right now in its current state in this exact moment of time-space continuum? pls?


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#37 2016-08-28 03:11:50

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Re: remove rep

maxi123 wrote:

can we just like keep the whole thing as is right now in its current state in this exact moment of time-space continuum? pls?

Oka—*time freezes*

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#38 2016-08-28 11:01:06

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Re: remove rep

Hostage wrote:

just add a woot counter and let the woot farmers be

What is even the purpose of a woot counter besides promoting woot farming


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#39 2016-08-28 14:46:59, last edited by Pingohits (2016-08-28 14:47:10)

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Re: remove rep

on a completely unrelated but slightly related note, diff you should be able to see woots while browsing your posts in profile


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#40 2016-08-28 16:21:53

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Re: remove rep

Pingohits wrote:

on a completely unrelated but slightly related note, diff you should be able to see woots while browsing your posts in profile

see also

maxi123 wrote:
Hostage wrote:

just add a woot counter and let the woot farmers be

What is even the purpose of a woot counter besides promoting woot farming

see also
We've been through the woot stat thing before. I probably like the stats for the wrong reason; more than likely folks will start up the woot factories again, for a short time. We seemed to have lucked out in that n1kf doesn't wootspam anymore

I'm good with removing rep, I guess. RIP my +12

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#41 2016-08-28 19:12:36

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Re: remove rep

yeah I think there should be a woot counter, but not rep. woots are a good way to reward helpful posts because you are wooting the actual post. rep is just a popularity meter. imo, woot farming will go away if people just call out the woot farmers occasionally.


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#42 2016-08-28 19:57:52, last edited by TaskManager (2016-08-28 19:59:14)

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Re: remove rep

sthegreat wrote:

woots are a good way to reward helpful posts because you are wooting the actual post.

people woot funny posts more often than helpful posts so its more like "ill try to be as funny as i can so i can drown myself in woots :>>>>"

sthegreat wrote:

rep is just a popularity meter.

and a woot counter isnt?

sthegreat wrote:

woot farming will go away if people just call out the woot farmers occasionally.

calling out wootfarmers in random topics would derail the topic and could possibly invole flaming/insulting as well


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