Mafia 9 Game Thread (MAFIA + MAXI WIN!!!)

Different55 · 2016-06-07 03:48:22

Kubapolish wrote:

maxi123 wrote:
meh, i'll rather trust kirby seeing that he is new to the game
but who knows
!vote Kubapolish
absolute absence of contribution to the conversation, please wake up, seriously
okay
but dont kill me
(i will get killed [lynched?] anyway, oh well)
also this is my first time playing mafia game
so :v
btw how i could help
maybe mafia games isnt for me '-'

You could start by telling us what your role is, why you haven't been around at all, if you've even been paying attention to the game, and if you have then you could tell us who you suspect.

mrjawapa, TaskManager, kubapolish

Different55 · 2016-06-07 07:34:55

Luka504 wrote:

Ok i barely understand whats going on here.
We are lynching Kuba beacuse he is lurking and is barely posting much.
Yet Kirby gets a free ride even though he has like 10 posts himself. Pretty much all of them are either joke comments or sheep votes beacuse

Kirby gets a free ride even though he has like 10 posts himself.

Kirby gets a free ride

I think you're right when you said you barely understand what's going on, because Kirby is in no way getting a free ride. I'd like him to do a few reads and tell us about a bit about his role though.

Yet again you dorks still have no proof of anything. Im not voting for Kuba until i believe he is mafia.

Did you not read Jawapa's posts? He's a cop. He investigated Zumza. He doesn't even know whether he got a result, or if he was roleblocked. I don't think proof is physically possible in this game. If you're waiting around for proof then please stop, because it's not coming. Read the topic, read the people, and make a decision on who you think is most suspicious. Then convince the rest of us and vote to lynch them.

You actually remind me a bit of me in my first mafia game. D1 I wanted a nolynch because we had 0 information to go on. But someone pointed out that relying on information of some kind to magically appear on D2 or even later wasn't a good strategy. You can't just not lynch anybody until someone slips up or until an investigator role shows up to save the day. If that worked then it wouldn't be a good game.

And I actually find this change of heart incredibly suspicious. D1 you said nothing about absolutely requiring hard proof to vote for bimps. He turned out to be town. But today we go after kuba for not participating AT ALL and suddenly you require proof? Yeah, that's not shady at all. Why the double standard? What makes kuba special?

Different55 · 2016-06-07 07:48:05

Luka504 wrote:

Oh god i worded that post wrong.
You people are giving Kirby a free ride beacuse he keeps saying how new to the game he is.
Yet you keep accusing Kuba for ,,lurking,, which by itself doesnt mean much.
YET KIRBY has 10 posts himself, none of which dont even help the town in any way, aka lurking as well.
How on earth is this fair?

He's not in any way getting a free ride. Look back at the topic. We're primarily discussing lynching 2 people. One of those is kuba, and he seems like he's going to get lynched unless he does something quick to take suspicion off of himself (@kuba, please see my previous post directed at you). The other person is kirby (@kirby if you could check out the same post that'd be great). Both people have been not playing very well, and have not really contributed to the game. We're (well, I am, anyway) going after kuba because he has done only the absolute bare minimum to just stay in this game at all.

It's not unfair. Strictly between the two of them, it's the only sane choice. If you think Kirby is more suspicious or that Kuba is innocent, then please, explain.

Different55 · 2016-06-07 08:31:55

Luka504 wrote:

And I actually find this change of heart incredibly suspicious. D1 you said nothing about absolutely requiring hard proof to vote for bimps. He turned out to be town. But today we go after kuba for not participating AT ALL and suddenly you require proof? Yeah, that's not shady at all. Why the double standard? What makes kuba special?
Oh but i had proof yesterday.

Oh so when you're suspicious of someone it's proof but when anyone else is suspicious of someone then it's absolutely nothing. Got it, cool.

Proof 1: His change in behavior.

I didn't watch game 7. I meant to, but I lost track of posts and just kind of dropped it. I kept up with game 8 tho. And as far as I can tell he was acting the same way here as in game 8.

In game 8, he straight up stood against the majority and trusted Jawapa to not be evil. He was innocent.
Here he seems to want to lynch someone just beacuse ,,Why not,,.

Literally what is your point? He was a citizen, not mafia. Are you seriously trying to make the case that he was mafia after he's dead and in the ground? What the heck? He was innocent both games, if there's a change in behavior from one game to another it's obviously not because he was mafia. I gotta tell you man, you are making 0 sense.

Proof 2: Refusing to read his rolecard.
This by itself doesnt really mean much. But its still just..... Not right.

He did the same thing last game, so what?

Proof 3: Being VERY aggresive.
Seriously though. He was being very aggresive, especaly towards Jawapa. He didnt even give out any reasons to lynching jawapa, except for him being a jerk. Thats it.

It was D1 and the day had just started. Like I said in my last post, simply not lynching anyone because of lack of information is a bad choice. I don't know whether that was bimps thinking or whether he was just being his usual tardly self but there you go.

His disguise? ,,Hur hur i didnt read ma rolecard so anything goes for me,, .
Well fun fact: I havent read my rolecard either. So that means you cant lynch me Different :>.
Also when people started voting him up, he claimed citizen.
Thats great n all. But mafias can just claim citzen freely since none of us here know how many regular citizens there are.

Okay but he was actually a citizen? He died and we all saw his role. What in the world are you on?

And with a Sheriff who only has ONE investigation, the chance youre gonna find the 2-3 mafia is pretty low.

So? I already said that even if our sheriff wasn't a one shot wonder, we would have no guarantee. That was my whole point. There's no guarantee of finding anything. The only guarantee a sheriff can get is if someone comes back guilty, and he didn't get a guilty result back so we have no idea. There will never be proof of innocence in this game, so your insistence of having proof for kuba is ridiculous.

Oh but we also have a Serial Killer here. So we have 3-4 baddies, maybe more!

Woah woah woah, how do you know there's a serial killer? There were 2 kills last night, one from marco and one from the mafia. Unless the mafia got roleblocked, in which case yeah there's another killer. But either way, how would you know?

What do you have on Kuba currently?
He lurks.
Sureeeeeeeeeeee.

Oh yeah, "he lurks", that's it, just a bit of lurking.

No, he's contrbuted nothing to this game. He's done nothing. He's said nothing. But you are absolutely determined that we must have PROOF of his innocence despite that being impossible, and you totally ignore me asking why you were defending him. What reason do you have to believe kuba is innocent?

Well, I think that's it for me tonight. See you guys tomorrow. Had a super active day of mafia today but I'll be less active tomorrow. Not inactive, just less active.

Different55 · 2016-06-07 16:20:13

Dude your misinterpreted so many of the things I said I don't even know where to start. Like seriously, it wasn't just the "for lack of information" thing, it was practically everything.

Luka504 wrote:

Different55 wrote:
Woah woah woah, how do you know there's a serial killer? There were 2 kills last night, one from marco and one from the mafia. Unless the mafia got roleblocked, in which case yeah there's another killer. But either way, how would you know?
Who needs to read theories anyways.
Luka504 wrote:
Ok after reading this post i realized something.
Jawapa isnt a regular Sheriff.
His rolecard says ,,Finding out if someone has the ability to kill.,, instead of ,,Finding out if someone is supicious.,,
So that means there MUST be another killing role that excludes the mafia.
So indeed we have a Serial Killer or some sort of killing evil role in this game.
Oh thays just peachy.

Alright but that doesn't mean there's a serial killer. It could, but we also know that marco exists, he has a killing ability. Obviously he'd show up to Jawapa's investigative ability. It sounds more like a "hey here's a quirk in your ability you should look out for" than a "there's a serial killer, good luck finding him"

Different55 wrote:
Okay but he was actually a citizen? He died and we all saw his role. What in the world are you on?
You didnt know he was citizen so dont even try to pull that one off.

That's NOT the point. We are not justifying our lynching of bimps yesterday, the only reason bimps is brought up here at all is because you had no demand for proof yesterday, but suddenly it's a necessity today. That kind of double standard seems incredibly scummy. Tell me WHY you're so stubborn for proof today but not yesterday.

Different55 wrote:
No, he's contrbuted nothing to this game. He's done nothing. He's said nothing. But you are absolutely determined that we must have PROOF of his innocence despite that being impossible, and you totally ignore me asking why you were defending him. What reason do you have to believe kuba is innocent?
Thats pretty much lurking.
Also i dont believe kuba is innocent
I dont believe he is mafia either.
I believe you are lynching him for ,,lurking,, which for me doesnt seem like much.

Do you have a better idea? If so, feel free to speak up.

Different55 wrote:
So? I already said that even if our sheriff wasn't a one shot wonder, we would have no guarantee. That was my whole point. There's no guarantee of finding anything. The only guarantee a sheriff can get is if someone comes back guilty, and he didn't get a guilty result back so we have no idea. There will never be proof of innocence in this game, so your insistence of having proof for kuba is ridiculous.
Oh well why dont we lynch you then? I mean, there is no gurantee that you arent mafia. Theres no gurantee maxi isnt mafia. Theres no gurantee God isnt the mafia.

There's no guarantee, but that doesn't mean we lynch randomly. We lynch the people we suspect. What is wrong with that?

Different55 wrote:
What the heck? Bimps was innocent both games
Lol. Who needs to research anyways.

Game 8 and this game he was innocent. He behaved the same way both times, completely identically. But according to you he was definitely guilty, so guilty that you had proof that he was mafia. Except he wasn't. You were wrong. All of us were wrong. The difference between all of us and you is that we're not requiring hard proof. You didn't for bimps, but you do for kuba. Why?

Different55 wrote:
if there's a change in behavior from one game to another it's obviously not because he was mafia
Well last game Creature was mafia.
He had a change of behavior in that game
Contradictiosn everywhere.

That's taken so out of context I don't even. Whatever, bimps' actual innoccence is irrelevant here, we really need to quit bringing it up. The only relevant part of bimps' death is that you did not require proof of his guilt. Why? Why then and not now? What makes kuba different? You still haven't answered that question. You even snipped it out of my quote when you posted it.

Different55 · 2016-06-07 16:34:47

Alright now that that giant mess of a lukapost is out of the way.

Kirby wrote:

I'm just a citizen named Bruce. No special abilities.

Kubapolish wrote:

my role is villager citizen/town, yes i read all of posts here, and who i suspect...

Awesome, ofc you're both citizens.

JaWapa wrote:

Am I the only one thinking Luka and Kuba are on the same team?
I say lynch Kuba despite his claim, and if he turns up guilty, hang luka.

You're not.

@the people lynching smitty
Can I ask why you guys suspect smitty? The quote you guys (well zumza, and then kuba quoted them) pulled from smitty's posts, "if someone can protect marco then nobody has to die, I promise," seem more like the last words of a meat shield than a sinister scum plot.

Different55 · 2016-06-07 20:48:01

marcoantonimsantos wrote:

sadly you are defending SmittyW

Not defending, just trying to understand.

Zumza wrote:

@Different55: Actually I think Im not really understand what you mean by "meat shield".
I think you mean it like "a bait" but really why do you guys consider mafia so inferior to towns "intelligence"?

I don't get what you mean.

Bobithan wrote:

Here's a bit of theorizing about some master plan here: marco's absurd vig kill on Pyro was not out of provocation, but marco is actually a serial killer which is why there was a second kill. I mean, with 17 players, there's probably going to be multiple killing roles, right? This is a bit tinfoil hat-ish though so never mind.

Wait, I think you might be on to something here. I do think it's a bit tinfoil hat-ish, but either marco or smitty should be dead. One of them should have died last night. The mafia would have to be retarded not to go after it, right? So why Processor? There's no way for them to know what he was, so did they really choose a totally random kill over possibly getting rid of a vig D1?

And Marco's kill was totally ridiculous. I went back to D1 and look here (warning: heavily condensed because this post is another big one):

marcoantonimsantos wrote:

Pyromaniac wrote:
As for marco and smitty: if ya'll really want to lynch today, shouldn't we lynch one of the counterclaims...? Not some random guy?
weep-doo holy doo a new suspicion
->Pyromaniac, trying not to lynch Smitty and instead lynch me
Your setence basically tells everyone that people should lynch one of the counterclaims (was me, and then zumza) instead of lynching SmittyW ("A random guy").
I wonder how much you will try to avoid that I think you are mafia.
Pyromaniac wrote:
Rn I'm more suspicious of marco because of his weird counterclaim AND his reaction to my first post about the subject. That being said, I'm also suspicious of Smitty because like, why claim so early? And why not answer when people question you?
you know what? I'll shoot Pyromaniac.

What was his reason for shooting pyro? Just because pyro was suspicious of him? He'd be stupid not to be suspicious of anyone claiming vig with all the claiming and counterclaiming going on. And he went through with killing pyro without even asking any of the town.

Different55 · 2016-06-07 20:48:09

I honestly didn't think of being maf target. Rip

Trust me, you are a target. There's a specific person trying to kill you. Them killing you is my lose condition and I will commit suicide after it happens. I think that person is marco. It doesn't appear that anyone else besides mafia has a killing ability, so I'm pretty sure it's him. Unfortunately your death by any other means (mafia or lynching) appears to be totally fine, so unfortunately I can't say I completely trust you, either. I just need marco to not kill you.

If there are any protective roles, please protect kirb-

I have a hindrance, in which I'm not allowed to accept any help bc I'm 2 kool 4 skool

Well nevermind about that. Alright how about if there are any roleblocking roles left, please block marco. If I'm wrong about marco, then I'll be killing myself tonight.

!unvote
!vote marco

Different55 · 2016-06-07 21:14:47

Luka504 wrote:

If he flips town, ita gonna be on you different.

Did you not read my post? You don't have to worry about that. If I'm wrong about marco, then the real brucekiller will kill kirby tonight and I'm dead. If I'm right about marco but nobody does anything about it, he'll kill kirby and I'm dead. My life is on the line here.
As far as his actual alignment, I think he's probably independent, like me. It'd be weird to have a vig role whose win condition was to kill a town member, unless Kirby is actually mafia.

Different55 · 2016-06-07 21:15:47

Wow okay a lot happened while I was typing that relatively short post. Give me a few minutes to catch up

Different55 · 2016-06-07 21:28:37

▼Infinite Lukarage

▼Why marco?

▼Kirby is not confirmed town

Different55 · 2016-06-07 21:28:54

Oh for the love of-. I make one post and 5 more show up.

hummerz5, Evilbunny

Different55 · 2016-06-07 21:32:18

Zumza wrote:

Different55 wrote:
Woah woah woah, how do you know there's a serial killer? There were 2 kills last night, one from marco and one from the mafia.
Why didn't Different55 just agree with Luka on the possibility of being a SK from start? This is too overwhelming.

Sorry, that was when I still thought marco was a vanilla vig. Like right up until 5 seconds it didn't even really click that "oh yeah, he's probably a serial killer instead of some demented vig role"

Luka504 wrote:

stuff

yeah, sounds like that's about the size of things as far as we know.

Different55 · 2016-06-07 21:33:25

SmittyW wrote:

So you know that there is another person entitled "brucekiller" and presumably both of you are neutral?

That's just what I've named them, in my role card they're just referred to as some other player.

Different55 · 2016-06-07 22:39:42

IAJRHGOIERJGAPOIR LOCKED

mrjawapa, kubapolish

Different55 · 2016-06-14 04:57:36

Marco might have put a massive dent in the town but nobody found any of the mafia or serial killers until there had already been 2 night massacres and it was too late.

Onjit, realmaster42, kubapolish

Different55 · 2016-06-14 14:07:22

marcoantonimsantos wrote:

Luka504 wrote:
Every shot you made was a misfire. If you only saved your shots for later in the game, like D3, we could have won.
i wanted to shoot Different55, Unau and AlphaJon
but people kept threatning to lynch me (what can I do)

Pls. You shot whoever you wanted to and never asked the town and never took town orders. You shot exactly who you wanted to shoot even when nobody else suspected them.

Onjit, Pyromaniac, AlphaJon, kubapolish, TaskManager, realmaster42

Different55 · 2016-06-14 16:18:23

Creature wrote:

Thank you, this is way better.
But I don't like when there's a combo of 2 SKs + 3 mafia, it's just very unbalanced and swingy.

Well at all times there would only ever be one real SK. I never had the ability to kill, but if maxi died by kirby then I'd gain the ability to kill. If I died by kirby then maxi kept being the SK.

Onjit, TaskManager

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