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#26 2016-05-04 21:21:57
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Re: Undertale Mafia game thread
!vote JaWapa
Okay you guys convinced me. We should've lynched JaWapa yesterday. I guess if we did we wouldn't have proven Creature's innocence though.
This whole 22 minute result thing just makes no sense to me and it feels to me like JaWapa was trying to remove the possibility that Creature was framed so we lynch an innocent and now has to grovel in his lie and try to make us look over the fact that it makes no sense whasoever. He's been in hot water already so this is probably his way of going out guns blazing by trying to secure a mislynch on a """"powerful"""" *cough* player.
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#30 2016-05-04 21:37:06
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Re: Undertale Mafia game thread
Assuming we suck:
Lynch Creature, he's town, shoot JaWapa
Lynch JaWapa, he's town, shoot Creature
Either option works and I personally think JaWapa is more likely to be scum, so that's where my vote will lie for now as I would rather not find out who is scum by lynching a townie. Let's just get this right the first time and lynch JaWapa :^)
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#31 2016-05-04 21:38:39
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well, for me, that is more evidence that jawapa is town, because i am town and it would be odd to hardclaim that. also maj was reached on creature iirc
It would be stupid for JaWapa to claim one of his scumbuddies as town as that would just throw them right under the bus.
Also majority wasn't reached. We were at 5, 2 people unvoted, then those two same people voted creature again.
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#33 2016-05-06 22:02:48
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Re: Undertale Mafia game thread
Lists are in no particular order. Kind of just a terrible hodgepodge of my thoughts on the first two days that i thought would be worth compiling while we wait for day 3. Man it would suck if i just up and died on night 2 since i wouldnt be able to post this thing ive wasted so much time on. In that case i’ll post it after the game ends
Confirmed town:
JaWapa - investigative role
Bimps - town result
(unless, of course, as a way to get all heat off of himself JaWapa decided to bus Creature to smithereens while also clearing Bimps entirely, but that’s so unlikely as I would imagine if JaWapa false claimed he would’ve been counterclaimed so I don’t know why I’m writing this. I guess what I’m saying is by some chance there is an cop-like role out there who hasn’t counterclaimed yet, please do so and we might win) (or, maybe, bimps is a godfather type role?? I doubt that, honestly)
Strong town leans for me:
Me: coz im town
Evilbunny: Voted to lynch Creature on Day 2 and also made an amazing post that I link later in this ramble. He’s been right about Creature being scum and JaWapa being not-scum from the get-go
AlphaJon: despite his vote against JaWapa on D2, He made a super soft claim to a town role early on (X use whatever) which is what I and JaWapa are confirmed to be in my headcanon, so I’m inclined to believe he’s town if only from that. Not to mention he acts pretty towny regardless. Very similar to how he was in game 7
Moderate town reads:
Maxi123: I don’t think Creature would make such a dumb accusation (“ur posts are too fluffy”) against a teammate as a moderate bus. Can’t really see maxi being scum honestly in this game.
Calicara: just seems like town to me i guess. I don’t really have much to say about her except I don’t suspect her much at all
Neutral:
Pyromaniac, Smitty - really just no clue tbh, haven’t seen anythign in them at all
Weak scum read:
Marcoantonimantos: http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 67#p599467
Assuming Zumza actually isn’t scum, what’s shown here is marco using two of the most scapegoaty players in the game to attempt to push a mislynch. I probably would’ve gone against him a bit more if not for that totally-not-an-investigative-role claim that I took as a total mistake of a claim.
This post just further supports my point on scapegoating: http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 52#p600252
Completely useless post and then a random vote on a weaker player.
HOWEVER, my marco read is a bit weaker, as I have a stronger scum read on both Zumza and Kaslai and believe it is possible that those two were working alongside Creature. He also really showed no signs of possibly being aligned with Creature at all. Maybe this is actually a town read. I dont know this post is kind of a wreck im sorry but what i mentioned still is owrth looking at to me.
Scumlean:
Kaslai - The only reason I can imagine that Kas is town is he hammered the Creature lynch. Yeah that’s great and all but like, he intentionally robbed us of 4 days of discussion. I doubt he would do something so ballsy unless he knew that it was the right choice, which I imagine he did. Creature being lynched was basically an inevitability looking back, so Kaslai’s hammer could be seen as him basically putting his friend down before a painful 4 days of more incriminating information showing up against Creature’s allies. I believe there are sinister motives at play here; a hammer doesn’t guarantee everything. Not to mention he had basically no presence at all for the entirety of the game, while also being suspiciously put as a town lean on Creature’s read list which a lot of people were put off by.
Also this post is worth looking at and only strengthens my belief that he is scum:
http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 29#p599729
Zumza:
Zumza was adamantly against JaWapa on both Day 1 and Day 2. (afterthought: this is false…) He also said that whole thing where JaWapa needs to be lynched regardless of alliance which now really rubs me the wrong way since he’s been alongside Creature this whole time. Creature also had Zumza read as a strong town read as his first scale-type post but I dont know if Creature would be that careless. Overall though I’m really feeling that Zumza’s genocide at this point.
Also I’m going to be roleclaiming. I’m vigilante. I’m going to kill Kaslai tonight. Or rather, I did kill Kaslai just last night. I am doing this because I really think that he is scum as stated for the reasons I have listed before, and also just because he hasn’t been very active in general and losing another lurker isn’t that big of a deal. II wrote this during the night phase and I’m going to be posting this entire thing in its entirety right after the day starts to drive the point home that I am the vigilante regardless of results. I’ll post afterthoughts on results afterwards at some time or something idk
Didnt really proofread this much at all so sorry for the mess
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#36 2016-05-08 16:02:44
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Re: Undertale Mafia game thread
So brilliant Bobithan, because you misfired at a townie, do you still have more bullets left or does something else happen?
Well, if I get lynched I get to kill a guilty voter so thankfully that won't happen
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#37 2016-05-10 21:49:54
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okay sorry I wasn't posting because I messed up and got disinterested. I guess I'll do something though.
I'll just post lackluster reads on everybody because I don't have that much to say. Most of this is just off the top of my head, I don't feel like reading through the thread as much as I want to do other things right now.
Green: I think they are town
Red: I think they are scum
Grey: Cleared
Bobithan - Vigilante
JaWapa - Investigator
SmittyW - Investigated
Bimps - Investigated
marcoantonimsantos - I believe marco. Unless for some odd reason only scum can revive the dead which I doubt is the case, somebody would have counterclaimed marco at this point. His poor play that I read as scummy before was likely just poor play.
Evilbunny - I still think he's town. I can't imagine scum claiming that they turn up with a scum result before even having a chance of being investigated. His plays so far have been very beneficial to the town.
Maxi123 - He was very distant from Creature on day 1, I can't really imagine them being aligned.
Calicara - I don't really find her to be scummy, but I find her less towny than EB, maxi, and marco just from personal opinion that's really not based on much.
AlphaJon - The only reason I found Alpha to be towny before was because he suggested that town roles are X use, which hardly is confirmation for being town. His votes have consistantly been against the town and I remember reading some things he did as scummy but dismissing them just because of his claim that all roles are X use. I don't feel like digging them up again, though, so this is a bit of a weak read. I would rather let him live to the next day regardless, as I want to allow him the chance to confirm himself with whatever his mystery action is.
Pyromaniac - I don't really have any reason to believe Pyro is town at this point. Simply looking at final votecounts he has never been pro-town, and unvoted on Creature for really no reason at all.
I realize these reads are mainly based on votes but whatever
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#40 2016-05-14 03:06:57
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Re: Undertale Mafia game thread
I agree entirely with marco's most recent post; that's basically all I wanted to say actually. There are 2 scum between maxi, cali, and pyro. i highly doubt there is a godfather so the investigations are clear, and nobody has counterclaimed marco or alpha.
I'm pretty sure pyro is scum at this point, but im unsure where mafia falls between cali and maxi. im leaning towards cali but thats not with much evidence. hell, none of this post contains any evidence.
im kinda mad that we lynched evilbunny honestly, but at least i was right about something this time
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#41 2016-05-14 16:40:45
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Re: Undertale Mafia game thread
Bobithan wrote:nobody has counterclaimed marco or alpha.
There we damn go again
Who said no counterclaim is 100% evidence? Sure, marco can be trusted because we actually saw his role in action. But what about alpha? His actions had no effect and it's very possible that he made the whole thing up. Who is going to counterclaim if the said role simply doesn't exist?
I would reckon that there would be a protective role of some kind, especially in a role madness game. Alpha got both protective abilities and nobody stepped up to say that they had either of them. Randomly claiming that you can both heal and jail without any knowledge about it would be way too risky to do as scum, as that covers a lot of ground for possible counterclaims. Alpha is safe.
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#45 2016-05-15 00:49:07
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Re: Undertale Mafia game thread
Can you stop using flavor as your argument at all? It's completely irrelevant. I'd argue Chara is less likely to be mafia, accompanied by some cheesy "saw the light side" flavor in the rolecard but it doesn't even matter so let's just forget about it. Thanks for making actual points though. I still don't think Smitty is mafia at all. Also, remember; being wrong doesn't mean being scum.
I personally havent elimitnated maxi at all and still think he's worth looking at.
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#49 2016-05-18 02:40:51
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alright yeah that was my major point in favor of alpha: that there were no counterclaims. might be because you just havent paid attention at all. oh well. I don't know if Alpha has much going for him now
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