Undertale Mafia game thread

Creature · 2016-04-27 18:34:39

Luka504 wrote:

Wow if you accidentaly word something ,,wrong,, you are obvs scum. (sarcasm)I made a mistake geez.

I am not scum reading you for guessing Chara is in the scum team, I am scum reading you for the way you interacted with the AlphaJon vs Jawapa.

Luka504 wrote:

Why am i on the bottom of the list?
I can understand that you might place me in a lower scumish behavior.
Also what makes calicara scummy again?

I already stated, maybe you should start reading.

I am suspecting Calicara for the way she's avoiding an argument with me, not sure if she's frustated or doesn't want to be lynched, but I am currently leaning on the latter.

Luka504 wrote:

Defending a scum. Sure i said it myself defending is not proof of scum.....
But this isnt like you. Last two games i NEVER saw you defending anyone, and you were innocent those games.
Change in behavior. Legit.

Where am I defending JaWapa? What makes you so sure JaWapa is scum? You can't say I am defending a scum out of nowhere.

Luka504 wrote:

Well maybe you could know how i played if I WASNT LYNCHED ALMOST INSTANTLY in the past two games.

Calm down then.

Creature · 2016-04-27 18:37:19

Luka504
Are you suspecting Calicara?

Creature · 2016-04-27 19:26:22

AlphaJon wrote:

Creature: Why did you put Kaslai in the "townleans" category? He barely posted anything. I consider him to deserve the "Null" category.

His early posts seemed townish, I didn't really notice his disappeance. I would move him down to smaller townleans and raise SmittyW to townleans.

Also I don't know your reasons behind Evilbunny's "worried" choice, if you agree to explain, that's be great.

I am worried most about his inactivity, his only post so far was him not understanding anything (or pretending to not). TBH he deserves the same spot as Pyromaniac and marcoantonimsantos, they don't usually flake like this.

Zumza, AlphaJon

Creature · 2016-04-27 19:34:12

Luka504 wrote:

Orange is the new font.
Luka504 wrote:
Wow if you accidentaly word something ,,wrong,, you are obvs scum. (sarcasm)I made a mistake geez.
I am not scum reading you for guessing Chara is in the scum team, I am scum reading you for the way you interacted with the AlphaJon vs Jawapa.
Im not talking about the Chara incident, im talking about (jawapa being a paci = alpha being scum) being wrong. Yeah that is pretty dumb.
But why you said it?
Luka504 wrote:
Why am i on the bottom of the list?
I can understand that you might place me in a lower scumish behavior.
Also what makes calicara scummy again?
I already stated, maybe you should start reading.
I am suspecting Calicara for the way she's avoiding an argument with me, not sure if she's frustated or doesn't want to be lynched, but I am currently leaning on the latter.
And? Honestly you two seem pretty much on opposite sides. Still this doesnt seem that worthy to put her in scale 2 of ,,scumminess,,
You've asked why I was suspecting her, here's the answer.
Luka504 wrote:
Defending a scum. Sure i said it myself defending is not proof of scum.....
But this isnt like you. Last two games i NEVER saw you defending anyone, and you were innocent those games.
Change in behavior. Legit.
Where am I defending JaWapa? What makes you so sure JaWapa is scum? You can't say I am defending a scum out of nowhere.
Creature wrote:
His attack on AlphaJon was pretty weak, but it's his vote, he based off something.
I noticed he justified it was to question AlphaJon, which is a valid reason
Yeah, that's (kinda) a defense, but I don't understand why you attacked me because of that, this isn't unusual in my meta. You still didn't answer my second question.
Luka504 wrote:
Well maybe you could know how i played if I WASNT LYNCHED ALMOST INSTANTLY in the past two games.
Calm down then.
NEVAR
Well, I am trying to work with you.

!unvote

Creature · 2016-04-27 20:16:50

maxi123 wrote:

there was a post somewhere saying that mafia wouldnt jump on an empty bandwagon like that since it would be too risky and i have to admit it makes sense

Wow! This guy is claiming mafia, I am pretty sure mafia wouldn't claim they're mafia.

Onjit, Zumza

Creature · 2016-04-27 21:31:21

AlphaJon looks obvious because I know he's less talkative in his scum games, he's also focused on sorting the game, another thing he'd do as town, while his scum game would be more noise.

I don't know how Zumza plays his scum game, but he's participating the way I know he does.

Creature · 2016-04-27 21:36:36

JaWapa
Not considering how your usual play, you're scummy. It looks like you had no reason to vote AlphaJon and when you were questioned you attacked him for voting himself.

Kaslai
I must've considered how you were complaining at the start of the day, townlean means I am feeling you're town, but I don't have a firm read on that.

Creature · 2016-04-27 21:41:07

Bobithan
Me too, I don't think he'd actually confuse his mafia chat with an actual post in the game.

Zumza
As I know, Game 6 had nighttalk, but one mafia had daytalk thanks to Mafia Enforcer.

Zumza

Creature · 2016-04-27 21:49:19

Wait, wtf? You voted AlphaJon for reaction test?

Creature · 2016-04-27 22:12:25

JaWapa
You should take a look at how a scum plays, I recommend you read Mafia 3 and Mafia 5, where the scum had dominant presence. You're seeing AlphaJon, Zumza and me as mafia because of my reads, when I already stated why I am having a strong town read on Alpha and Zumza.

Creature · 2016-04-27 22:15:54

!vote marcoantonimsantos

Why are you so inactive? I expected you to be engaging Luka504 already.

Creature · 2016-04-27 22:31:42

JaWapa wrote:

Creature wrote:
where the scum had dominant presence.
Okay, now I'm confused.
You're maf if you don't post. You're maf if you do post.
How many posts should I make per hour if I'm innocent? Is there a wiki I can read?

I am not saying post too much/almost nothing is a scum tell.

Creature wrote:
You're seeing AlphaJon, Zumza and me as mafia because of my reads, when I already stated why I am having a strong town read on Alpha and Zumza.
You're seeing me as mafia because of my vote, when I already told you why I voted that way.
gg

Still, your reason seemed forced, like you didn't know why you were voting alphajon and when someone questioned you, you said it's a reaction test.

JaWapa wrote:

Creature wrote:
!vote marcoantonimsantos
Why are you so inactive? I expected you to be engaging Luka504 already.
Why only him? Bimps, Kaslai, Pyro, Smitty, Onjit, and Evilbunny have yet to contribute.

I prefer to start by him, as I know he's usually engaging.

Creature · 2016-04-27 22:46:43

JaWapa wrote:

Creature wrote:
Still, your reason seemed forced, like you didn't know why you were voting alphajon and when someone questioned you, you said it's a reaction test.
My reason seemed forced?
I voted, I was questioned, I gave my reason. There was no debate, no other talk about it.
Where are you getting it seemed forced?

It seemed like:
You: !vote AlphaJon
Someone: Why?
You: For voting himself, just wanted to see what he says.

Creature wrote:
I prefer to start by him, as I know he's usually engaging.
But it's wrong of me to put out a vote to get a reaction?
I'm seeing some double standards.

Well, my intent was to make him say something, was your intent the same?

Creature wrote:
I am not saying post too much/almost nothing is a scum tell.
That is exactly what you have said.

I mean't these were the games the mafia weren't just lurking and had more interaction. I wasn't saying posting too much is a scum tell.

Creature · 2016-04-28 16:00:19

Luka504
Your point of view:
Me: JaWapa is innocent
You: You're being scummy for defending JaWapa
Me: Nvm, JaWapa is guilty

If you take a better look, I was scum reading JaWapa in the argument with you.

Creature · 2016-04-28 16:01:20

maxi123 wrote:

that
is
weird
your read on jawapa seems very forced

Could say the same about your post.

Creature · 2016-04-28 18:37:39

maxi123 wrote:

Creature wrote:
maxi123 wrote:
that
is
weird
your read on jawapa seems very forced
Could say the same about your post.
which one?

The part I quoted.

Creature · 2016-04-28 18:41:34

marcoantonimsantos wrote:

"luka, i was 'scum-reading'"

What made you change your read on Luka?

Creature · 2016-04-28 18:50:24

maxi123 wrote:

but thats not even a read ._.

"your post"

Creature · 2016-04-28 21:38:58

Yeah, actually mafia is kind of a trouble, you actually want everyone to contribute, but you need to question and pressure them, and you'll have to lynch them if you think they're likely to flip scum. Let's say we nolynch today and have everyone do their night actions, if someone got leads tomorrow, we lynch the person we got evidence against them, if nobody got leads, then we're not lynching. Whoever has no action at all will just someone hoping something good happens. What are the fun on this?

Creature · 2016-04-29 16:07:26

Calicara
What do you mean by "if jawapa flips town, we can target creature tomorrow"? It's weird that I've attacked Luka504 for doing the same thing you did.

Zumza

Creature · 2016-04-29 16:09:15

I am starting to change my mind about maxi123, his recent posts look like fluff.

Creature · 2016-04-29 17:17:08

Luka504 wrote:

Creature wrote:
I am starting to change my mind about maxi123, his recent posts look like fluff.
Show pls.

Sure, here it is:

maxi123 wrote:

whelp we have a good load of lurkers
while im always up for a lynch i think that lynching d1 is not obligatory, right now we have null evidence as opposed to d2 which will let the power roles do their first night actions and we will also see who mafia targeted and their (target's) role,
this will give us more info to base reads on
sure, we lynched on d1 in game 6 and got a mafia but in this game the situation is very chaotic and we cant confidently say anything about anyone, there is a lot of people that can be called scummy + a lot of lurkers

maxi123 wrote:

AlphaJon wrote:
it isn't, but we at least have a chance to find someone.
we always have the chance to find someone but right now theres so many suspicious players that chances getting a maf are pretty low
AlphaJon wrote:
the only true evidence you will have is your own night action.
is that not enough? plus there can be a hardclaim by someone and with a good doctor/protector the claim will be beneficial to town and will give us more "true evidence" (dont even think about twisting my words now, im not saying people MUST hardclaim)
AlphaJon wrote:
The situation was a bit chaotic in game 6 too
in game 6 there were 3 targets for lynch (N1KF, luka and zumza) and we got the right one because he made a scum slip
now there is much more and everyone is thinking of his own things, plus lots of lurkers which dont contribute at all
AlphaJon wrote:
Sadly, this is majorly impacting the current game, as there is about a third/a fourth of the people who are inactive. And obviously mafia is only going to kill them if they have no other choice.
yep
Calicara wrote:
Lurking =\= Mafia
i didnt say lurking is scummy but its hard to read the person that is barely posting plus that person is not contributing
Zumza wrote:
Lynching will help everybody a lot, we will know specifically which lead we should take at night.
yeah lets lynch whoever we want it will save the world!!!!!
what if the lynchee flips town or PR?

maxi123 wrote:

forgot this:
Zumza wrote:
Thought I was a citizen and I didn't know players can use their abilities a specific number of times.
not every power role has a limited-use ability
for example doctor can heal infinite amount of times
sheriff's amount of investigations is usually infinite

Creature · 2016-04-29 17:25:59

maxi123 wrote:

you really think that posts like that are scum indicative?

No, but they're fluffing, which is talking about a theory to look like you're helping. Making one single post like this doesn't indicate anything, but if you're clearly making these posts to avoid actually participating, then there's something wrong with it.

Creature · 2016-04-29 20:27:48

Are there neutrals?

Creature · 2016-04-29 20:42:10

SmittyW wrote:

Creature wrote:
Are there neutrals?
If you are asking Rhaz he won't say. Out of 15 players, I think it's safe to assume there might be an Sk or Witch or whatever

Maybe, considering there are a lot of PRs.

I don't think Rhazz would put 5 mafia members as it'd that 1/3 of the town.

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