Official Everybody Edits Forums
Do you think I could just leave this part blank and it'd be okay? We're just going to replace the whole thing with a header image anyway, right?
You are not logged in.
- Topics: Active | Unanswered
#26 2016-04-11 18:37:10
- SmittyW
- Member
- Joined: 2015-03-13
- Posts: 2,085
Re: Mafia 7 game thread:Matrix 6 (Mafia wins!!!)
Anyway, I actually hope you'll be protected, in case you are town. Because your death is going to feed the debate even more, especially if I stay alive.
What is that supposed to mean???
Offline
#27 2016-04-11 18:48:34
- SmittyW
- Member
- Joined: 2015-03-13
- Posts: 2,085
Re: Mafia 7 game thread:Matrix 6 (Mafia wins!!!)
Maybe it's what he wants us to think but I find it hard to believe AlphaJon is mafia. I can understand if he wanted to claim Bulletproof for immunity but I can't see someone making the mistake of unclaiming.
Offline
#30 2016-04-11 20:26:54
- SmittyW
- Member
- Joined: 2015-03-13
- Posts: 2,085
Re: Mafia 7 game thread:Matrix 6 (Mafia wins!!!)
We can lynch, lynching is better for us as town. Otherwise town will have an odd number of players tomorrow and that is disadvantageous for us.
We will still be odd if mafia kills. Also how is even better than odd
Offline
#34 2016-04-13 21:43:00
- SmittyW
- Member
- Joined: 2015-03-13
- Posts: 2,085
Re: Mafia 7 game thread:Matrix 6 (Mafia wins!!!)
^You didn't say why you thought AlphaJon looked scummy you just dropped a vote on him.
Next time give a proper analysis b4 hammering. Processor may have chosen wrong but I can clearly see why he voted him
Offline
#35 2016-04-15 03:09:58
- SmittyW
- Member
- Joined: 2015-03-13
- Posts: 2,085
Re: Mafia 7 game thread:Matrix 6 (Mafia wins!!!)
God dang I hate this game I hate this setup gosh why is this so hard I NEED FACTS I can't just use intuition we don't even get any night feedback mafia is OP literally all they have to do is stick their head in once in a while and they're in the clear heck they also get daychat this is biased Rhaz obviously wants mafia to win Even wiki says town wins 40/60 this is just luck
Offline
- Wooted by:
#37 2016-04-15 03:16:07
- SmittyW
- Member
- Joined: 2015-03-13
- Posts: 2,085
Re: Mafia 7 game thread:Matrix 6 (Mafia wins!!!)
Idk man Calicara seems paranoid but Onjit & Bobithan don't post much but they have a point because what can we talk about
Creature's analysis is pretty spot on
Processor is also acting smart but is kinda quiet lately
maxi is meh
I don't know I just like you all too much to kill you!!!
Offline
#38 2016-04-15 03:28:24
- SmittyW
- Member
- Joined: 2015-03-13
- Posts: 2,085
Re: Mafia 7 game thread:Matrix 6 (Mafia wins!!!)
If everyone thinks I'm town then mafia is probably going to kill me next because it would be in their interest to keep the uncertain within this group
YOU'D LIKE THAT WOULDN'T YOU!?
I have to call this a night but maybe I'll google some Matrix 6 strategies in the morning
Offline
#39 2016-04-16 15:56:58
- SmittyW
- Member
- Joined: 2015-03-13
- Posts: 2,085
Re: Mafia 7 game thread:Matrix 6 (Mafia wins!!!)
This is very annoying. Mafia can easily win either by voting or no lynching.
I was researching other Matrix6 games and it appears that replacements occur more than normal games (almost 50% replaced on average!). Why do you think Anak and Bobithan would leave? I doubt it's because they are "busy" because this game if very slow and doesn't require much attention (come on, they are on the forums all the time). The more likely reason is because they are bored (I agree this setup sucks). Anak strikes me as the kind of person who prefers to be mafia, so it's possible that he left because townies are dull. I'm not so sure about Bobithan but we can assume the same. Therefore I believe Creature and Luka to be leaning towards townie. I know I'm metagaming but there isn't a lot to judge and Creature/Luka haven't done anything to set my radar off.
Luka is more relaxed this game but of course he offered the same copy/paste answer as everyone else.
Offline
#40 2016-04-16 16:51:33
- SmittyW
- Member
- Joined: 2015-03-13
- Posts: 2,085
Re: Mafia 7 game thread:Matrix 6 (Mafia wins!!!)
Going back on the AlphaJon debacle, I think this was very pertinent info:
Anak wrote:I'm curious as to what would have happened if there was a bulletproof. I don't envision that would have ended well for you, AlphaJon.
I actually believe this setup to have good enough players to understand that I wouldn't blindy claim a role just so I become "towny". The only non-counterable claim would have been Tracker, and that's only if there is one Consort, since a 2-goon setup basically spans the whole grid except consort.
There's no way I would have done the same in a mafia6-like player setup.There are major flaws with the mafia point of view, also.
- This is risking one mafia for one less immediate target.
- The mafia cannot know in any way which roles may be ot not be there, except tracker if there is a consort.
- I doubt the 2 mafias would agree to such a plan (they have daychat).
- In case of a sheriff being there, it would almost force him to check the guy who claimed -> gg wp one less mafia
- Even after all that, keeping the claim is way less risky than reverting it, because there are 3 setups where this makes sense for everyone (row 1 included because the only PR is column-crossed with bulletproof)
People were hounding AlphaJon. Everyone respected him and thought he was a top tier Mafia player, so I find it odd that they all believed his claim was a huge mistake. He specifically requested only BP to counterclaim so it's not like he was putting any real PR in danger and it should be blatantly obvious why this outweighs a mafia decision. It seems like AlphaJon's main flaw was his math and assuming that if nobody counterclaimed games A & 3 were eliminated, which is obviously no longer true.
You know who the ringleader of this accusation was? PROCESSOR. Yuh huh, that's right.
1. Processor believes AlphaJon claimed BP for towncred and safety. This would be the safest option for scum, except that AlphaJon unclaimed WAY before, so that doesn't make sense...
2. Processor thinks AlphaJon unclaimed because I hinted that I was a PR, but again that was even before AlphaJon claimed AND unclaimed.
3. Processor thinks AlphaJon was scheming to have other PRs claim, but AlphaJon only wanted BP to claim and sacrificing one mafia for one potential PR doesn't seem like a big payoff.
HOWEVER, Processor isn't the only guilty one and because AlphaJon resorted to scare tactics afterwards, it's hard to say if Processor is scum. It just seems to me that Processor was blindsided and thought AlphaJon's claim only benefited mafia, NOT town. But Processor forgot that this game is about establishing TRUST and finding SCUM so he didn't realize that AlphaJon wasn't trying to draw attention to HIMSELF but to get the reaction of OTHERS.
Offline
[ Started around 1734497193.1462 - Generated in 0.049 seconds, 11 queries executed - Memory usage: 1.56 MiB (Peak: 1.75 MiB) ]