Mafia 7 game thread:Matrix 6 (Mafia wins!!!)

RhazzleFrazzle · 2016-04-05 22:36:26

So after game 6, I decided I would phase out some mechanics I consider to be a crutch. I already don't use last wills, but starting this game I will remove two things. Night feedback is being removed, meaning you won't be told if you get roleblocked, if an attack against you fails, or any other action is performed on you. Dying and investigative results are the exception. Secondly, I will no longer distinguish how any player dies. I will no longer say killed by the Mafia/Serial Killer/Vigilante, and will just say a player died last night.

To start this out, I will be doing a tried and true setup from Mafiascum.

▼I asked Bobithan to color code the setup and he gave me this

One of the rows or columns will be picked by RNG, and those 3 roles will be used. 5 Citizens and 1 Mafia goon will be added to create a 9 player game.

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Bimps, AlphaJon, Prodigy, TaskManager, kubapolish, AsurcH, Calicara, Onjit, Processor

Calicara · 2016-04-06 23:37:39

Hello my name is Abidugun Somali, I am the prince of Nigeria. I have come to this country to sell my wares. Please forward me $100,000 and I will ship you the goods immediately.

Please and thank.

Calicara · 2016-04-07 00:42:22

Overused gif is not funny.
That being said, if I die kill Onjit.

N1KF

Calicara · 2016-04-07 02:57:33

!vote Kaslai

He's been scum before, he'll be scum again. Let's clean the floor before it gets dirty.

Calicara · 2016-04-07 03:39:02

Allies once we may have been, enemies now we may be. Only time will tell....

Calicara · 2016-04-07 15:03:19

Because unless there's a jailor, or Doctor, or Processor is Mafia, you're probably gonna die n1 because you talk to much

Calicara · 2016-04-07 15:20:48

What do I have to be afraid of? I've played enough games now. Come at me Mafia. (Jk id really like to play for once)

Calicara · 2016-04-07 15:33:49

Or are you the one who's scum? Who knows! I'm just tired of lurking in the shadows. This town is a mess and we need to do something about it!

Calicara · 2016-04-07 15:34:23

"The only thing to fear is fear itself." - FDR

Calicara · 2016-04-08 18:08:11

My brain cant math, but hey somethings happening! I've been following along I just don't have much to say. I'm gonna !nolynch and pray I live to see another day.

Calicara · 2016-04-08 18:09:00

I meant to use this smiley not the mad one lol.

AlphaJon, some woman

Calicara · 2016-04-10 01:38:08

Processors analysis was interesting... But at this point it's still hard to say. For all we know Proc is Mafia trying to get a town lynched. I stand by my,

!vote noylynch

And I apologize for slight inactivity. I'm on a small recess from college till tuesday.

AlphaJon

Calicara · 2016-04-11 21:17:11

I've been loosely following the Alpha drama.

I guess I'll go with Proc for now and say !vote AlphaJon

If AlphaJon is scum, good for the town. If he's not then we can look at Processor. Either way it will provide us some information about the town.

Calicara · 2016-04-13 12:36:57

In my defense I didn't realize it was a hammer vote. I tried to convince it votes, but apparently I suck at math. Besides all I was saying before is just because you write textbook analysis =/= you being town.

If anything I find it suspicious you'd go out of your way to write such a long analysis incriminating AlphaJon and starting a mob lynch against him. It's almost as if you knew he was town and you were trying really hard to convince us he was bad without revealing the fact you know he wasn't evil.

I'm abstaining on voting for now, but I'd keep my eye on Processor.

Calicara · 2016-04-13 12:37:49

*I tried to count up the votes before I voted.

I shouldn't write these on mobile when I can't edit

Calicara · 2016-04-13 19:12:12

Last 6 games: No one takes day 1 posts seriously

Game 7: day 1 posts matter

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Creature you're coming out of nowhere with yesterday's news leaning on Proc, whom incited a mislynch. I'm weary of your quick alliance. Why are you so sure Processor is town?

Also @Maxi, I did vote Kaslai day 1 as a joke, but I unvoted. I wasn't getting a scum feel from him. If I had to guess what's going on here's what I'd say,

Processor is probably town. Creature is probably scum. So last night Creature kills Kaslai. Creature, being scum, aligns himself with Processor to look like a good town. Then Creature brings up my joke vote to incriminate me for the death of Kaslai. Which by the by, killing someone you voted for the previous day would be just about one of the dumbest strategies...

I'm gonna say !Vote Creature, he's giving me bad vibes...

Calicara · 2016-04-13 19:46:45

Ok I just want to expand and clarify on my post:

On Processor: At this point I think Processor is town. My last post implied he might be scummy because of AlphaJon, but let me explain: I know from the past few games Processor has a natural leader play style. Ergo, people are inclined to follow him because he has good reads and good intuition. Therefore, it's hard to tell at this point whether Alpha was mislynched because Processor genuinely thought he was scummy, or because he was purposely trying to get him lynched because Processor scum. I'd like to believe the former.

It's also not fair to blame the lynch entirely on him, again I realize that's the implication. And as for my hammer vote, well I can defend myself to the dawn of time, but it's only gonna make me look more scummy. But I honest to goodness did not realize it was a hammer vote, whether anyone believes me or not.

Regardless, at this point I think it is very likely Processor is town.

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On Creature: I honestly forgot Creature was playing until he posted about me. He entirely abstained from posting day 1, which if that isn't scummy I don't know what is. Nonetheless, he returns octo-posting basically calling everyone out, though especially myself. He even lurked around and found my day 1 vote for Kaslai.

As I said before, this was a joke vote. Because Kaslai were on a team once, I did it for a bit of humour. Though I quickly unvoted as I had no intention of lynching him.

Now isn't is suspicious that Kaslai dies the next day???

One person would think: Calicara votes Kaslai > Calicara unvotes because she is fearful > Calicara then kills Kaslai > The strategy is so obviously dumb Calicara must be scum trying to play a double-bluff

But before we go there let's look some more at Creature. Again, as I said, I don't like the way he's incriminating everyone, being extremely vindictive, and coming from seemingly nowhere. I get that Day 1 posts are important, but wouldn't they be more important on Day 1? And if Creature clearly saw the train-wreck that led to the lynching of Alpha, why didn't he say something? I'm not saying it frees me from my irresponsible hammer vote, but not helping to stop such things can be just as scummy as making them happen.

So I reiterate, here's what I think really happened:

Calicara vote Kaslai > Creature or his goon buddy kills Kaslai > Creature makes a bunch of reads targeting other town, but specifically pulls up my vote for Kaslai last> Calicara looks scummy for voting on someone who was just killed > And Creature aligning with Processor makes Creature look like town

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Now on the Processor/Creature alignment:

Creature seems to be trying really hard to align himself with Processor, and seems very confident that Processor is town. The only way one could know that Processor is confirmed town is if you are Processor himself, or if you're scum. I think Creature knows Processor is town, and a vocal one at that, and that's why he's trying to hard to rub shoulders.

However, without a response from Processor, I only see Creature as the scummy one and not him. An alignment only works when both parties mutually agree to help each other. Creature might be scum, but I could hardly say the same of Processor.

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As for everyone else: I'm honestly getting neutral reads all around. I'm feeling good that SmittyW. and Maxi123 are town. Onjit has a habit of lurking in the past, but he's not giving off an overly scum vibe to me. Bobithan seems slightly scummy to me, and I do agree with one thing, Bobithans sheep vote on Alpha was suspicious af. I'd like to hear more on his opinions.

Calicara · 2016-04-13 19:48:04

Oh and my nolynch was from yesterday. I abstained initially today, but then voted for you Creature.

Calicara · 2016-04-13 19:58:49

No..... No I did not. It still doesn't change my opinion a whole lot. A few of my points might be off, but I still think you're scum.

Calicara · 2016-04-13 19:59:30

Give me a bit to read Anaks posts....

Calicara · 2016-04-13 20:09:24

Some of Anaks post from D1:

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 29#p594029 : Calling out Maxi for no reason. Maxi always plays defensive.

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 71#p594071 : This seems like a really desperate, "I'm concerned about other town, but not really, because I Just need to make myself look good cause I'm scum", post.

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 20#p594120 : Same thing here. Not really an analysis, just a cry to look like a concerned town.

http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 15#p594515 : Third time claiming he didn't want a hammervote/mislynch, I see no reason he needed to mention it three times unless he was trying to defend himself, which if he was town wouldn't be necessary.

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I retain my vote.

Also:

Creature wrote:

First, I never said you were scum for voting someone who died. I was pointing out your vote was awful.

If you didn't think I was scum, then why out of all the players did you vote me? You clearly don't think I'm town. And yes, I know the vote was awful, and I apologize for my bad maths.

Calicara · 2016-04-13 20:10:38

Where did you explain your town reading on Processor? Enlighten me.

Calicara · 2016-04-13 20:11:43

P.S. I'm taking a short break to do some homework. I want to hear what others have to say. I'll check back later tonight.

Calicara · 2016-04-14 00:33:31

Processor wrote:

Um, explain why killing someone you voted for the last day is a dumb strategy.

For the exact reason Creature pointed out earlier, it looks suspicious af. Unless you're trying to pull a double bluff, and I'm not implying that I am, it would be a very poor strategy to kill someone you've been hedging. Just look what happened to Onjit in game 5.

Processor wrote:

Uh, you can't call out creature for buddying with me and then simultaneously say that I am town, lol. I wouldn't base my reads solely on a single town read, not at all if you agree with the person you are voting for.
I'll look at creature closely tomorrow, I haven't see anything odd yet.

First of all, all I said was that I thought that Creature was scum and you were town, because a scum can cling to a town for support to make themselves look less scummy. It doesn't mean the supporting town aligns themselves the same way. Therefore, just because I think Creature is scummy, does not imply I feel the same way about you.

However, seriously? You're just going to be good with ALL of Creatures reads? It boggles my mind how apparently trusting you two are right off the bat. Call it gamers intuition. All I can say is, if one of you is evil at this point, it's likely so is the other.

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Since I'm posting:

Bobithan wrote:

I explained my reasoning prior to voting here and did not feel the need to repeat myself when dropping the actual vote. Sure, like 40 posts may have happened between that post and the actual voting, but I really don't contribute when I'm just going to be repeating what other people have said.
I haven't posted much, sure, but it's not like I haven't spoken my mind on things like you guys are suggesting. I said what I felt necessary for me to say and that's it, that's just how I tend to play.

Not a huge fan of Bobithan's response, but I'll take it for now. You were kind of like that the last game too, pretty laid back just giving out occasional results.

My money's still on Creature, atm.

Calicara · 2016-04-14 00:34:25

*Correction: Look at Onjit's play in game 6. He was hedging on me, killed me, and got lynched, because it was clear he was trying to incriminate me.

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