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maxi123 wrote:Zumza wrote:There are 16 people who confirmed participation.
only 11 of this allied into voting with majority
there are 6 people in mafia
In the worst case scenario mafia would have 54% control over the votes.
I must say that in real life the worst case scenario never happens but that percent is still big.actually (math nerd time)
there are 20 players, 5 did not confirm participation but still check in (onjit, alphajon for example) or post often (luka504) so we'll assume all 20 players take part in voting
11 votes needed for lynch
out of 20 players, 6 is mafia and 14 is townif you are town and both mafias (6 players) want to mislynch you)
- worst case scenario: yes, mafia controls 54% of the votes (6 mafia and 5 town voted)
- best case scenario: mafia controls 0% of the votes (0 mafia and 11 town voted)
average: 27%Yes but the best case scenario has less probability to happen than the worst case scenario. Because if mafia disagrees on crowd it would drag unwanted attention.
At least 2 / 6 of them would vote with majority. So making an average isn't correct.
counting the average percentage is the most optimal choice because its impossible to predict human psychology and decision making
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Summary of people who voted on each wagon: (I only counted votes if they were picked up by Rhazh's VCs)
Zumza:Anak, AlphaJohn, Bobithan, Creature, Luka504, Gamemonger, Maxi123, Onjit, Pyromaniac, SmittyW.
Luka504(L-3):Anak, AlphaJon, Creature, Calicara, marcoantonimsantos, Processor, Onjit, W24, ZeldaXD
N1KF(L-3):Bobithan, Calicara, Evilbunny, Luka504, Gamemonger, Maxi123, Onjit, W24Onjit voted on all three wagons, didn't contribute much other than that.
Creature's changing his vote every day so a VC analysis is useless here. I am growing a little suspicious on him.
Maxi and Luka both voted on the two other wagons just like I expected. Gamemonger falls in the same category, uh oh?
Zumza isn't even pushy on any votes, he hasn't been trying to shake off attention either, he seems to understand that such behavior isn't good for town.
AlphaJon is following the crowd, but he is pretty passive.
W24 is doing a good job with his analysis, I couldn't find any certain bias.
Cali, SmittyW and Anak need more investigation.
i voted for luka504 as well
shouldnt rely on VCs
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maxi123 wrote:shouldnt rely on VCs
When did you? Link pls
http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 78#p588478 (#266)
@maxi: There have been studies on how people think and decision making. After you that studies were useless?
im using a mathematic method, im not a psychologist or a neuroscientist or whatever
also, dont edit your posts
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The day ends in 6.5 hours, @Maxi @Bobithan, please temporarily step down from your vote so we don't let a hammer happen.
I need to discuss this more with you.
I'll be open to lynching Zumza as soon as you show me at least a single nongeneric argument about him, because that's literally all I see.
that's the point, we have just 6.5 hours, what if either of us wont be able to log on to put the vote back on? or youre just trying to get a nolynch like that
long story short, i initially voted zumza as a random not so active target to pressure someone and see their reaction, then anak brought up the thing with ignoring questions, which i didnt even notice before and zumza outright replied to him with something not even relevant (or not answering the actual question, i dont remember). then zumza went stubborn for like 4 pages which doesnt make him look like town at all. plus there was marco which already seemed somewhat scummy to me with his forced/faked reads and then he blindly defends zumza
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You don't have 11 votes right now, right now, this IS going to be a nolynch vote. That is one hell of a bad excuse. You could always put your vote back here as soon as you have to leave, your behavior is very anti town.
i thought the majority is 11 and we have 10 votes?
Considering the remaining time, and the fact that Zumza is likely to be the one getting lynched today, I may as well put in my vote before it becomes too late (see my previous post for explanation)
!unvote
!vote ZumzaWARNING: This is the 10th vote
Voting for Zumza after this post will cause the day to end.
if only rhaz wouldnt mess up the votes
how am i anti-town? what if youre the 3rd mafia (this possibility is never excluded) and this way you want to get a nolynch to save zumza's ****?
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WELL THEN
we have 2 choices right, luka and zumza
if the one we lynch today flips town i think we all agree that we should lynch the other one tomorrow
anyway this day gave a lot of info and not just empty meme-ing
!unvote
!vote Luka504
lets just lynch either
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We need three more votes in 25 minutes. Trust me, we can manage.
Bobithan and Maxi123 are both on the forums but not responding here, interesting.
ninjad, i was playing around with other stuff and the tab was just open
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Hello, and Good Morning!
At least we have one mafia out of the way.
two*
and this is basically best case scenario lol
I will let Pyro later since we need more evidence but:
!vote maxi123
WELL
i realise what kind of massive **** situation im in that one of the mafia members (namely luka504) pulled me into
but i took part in voting luka, wouldnt it be considered gamethrowing if i was his teammate and took part in getting him lynched?
(i actually pmed rhaz that question, waiting for response)
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No... I would consider a very good cover for no one to suspect you?
this is more about how the game and rules work, is teamkilling like that allowed or not, i dont know
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*votes mafia buddy*
*is gamethrowing*lol
>_>
what
if the lynch succeeds then it means every vote contributes to it and if the mafia player wouldnt vote his teammate wouldnt get lynched, so its his fault too
thats what i thought
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yeah, because thats the most obvious decision right now
im citizen though. luka intentionally defended me in such an obvious manner so there could be a guaranteed mislynch. which you are pushing right now
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I would like to make a hard claim. I'm the sheriff. I figured that there's only going to be one roleblocker between the enemy teams so I'd like to get this out of the way early enough. I'm really banking on there being a doctor willing to trust me enough to protect me for the following days so I can stay safe while investigating so we can at least get some results without the risk of me dropping dead before I'm able to go over what I've found.
Last night I investigated Gamemonger and got a town result.
Also of note, from my rolecard I've been told there is likely a Godfather and a framer, which I will assume will be the only things to be tampering with my results, unless there's maybe a miller but I doubt that.
So yeah. That's all from me. Just don't hammer maxi, please.
as much as i want you to investigate me to prove others my innocence im sure framer will target me
rip lol
also what does miller do?
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maxi123 wrote:as much as i want you to investigate me to prove others my innocence im sure framer will target me
rip lolAlready making excuses why he may appear scum in readings
Also post #666I say we lynch
you can interpret it like that if you want
i have post #123 too
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well, if we're at it:
1) i slept peacefully
2) i have some suspicions towards W24, he was generally not so active past day, and his last post now, is that an attempt to start a bandwagon?
also, the way how he followed luka504 and n1kf bandwagons...
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well i can agree that w24 is quite scummy, ive already said my thoughts on him, he easily jumps on bandwagons, tries to start one and besides that is barely even present here for the discussion part.
!vote W24
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Hold up, son
Since when did W24 become our biggest suspect?
dont know why its the BIGGEST suspect for creature, but i already stated the reasons to suspect him
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maxi123 wrote:SmittyW. wrote:Hold up, son
Since when did W24 become our biggest suspect?
don't know why its the BIGGEST suspect for creature, but i already stated the reasons to suspect him
Is a he not an it.
W24 wasn't on more than 2 wagons. There are lots of users that haven't posted frequently. W24 was part of the few who gave his opinion when asked. So please add some reference posts you made those affirmation on.
youre talking like 2 wagons out of 3 is no big deal. thats not the point anyway, point is he followed those kinda like a sheep and said absolutely NOTHING relevant to these bandwagons
http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 70#p588170 - nolynch when a lynch is the best choice, no reasoning as to why we should nolynch either
http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 79#p588279 - vote with the worst excuse ever
http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 17#p588417 - using what proc already said so he doesnt have to say anything and can just blend in and follow the wagon
http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 87#p589487 - trying to look town here "yay one mafia is dead im so happy"
http://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewto … 09#p589509 - "hey guys how about we quickhammer this", attempt to start a bandwagon here like ive already said.
he was mostly lurking (like many others, oh well) but what makes him different from other lurkers is that he always tries to look like hes taking part in the discussion
also
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can you stop with that? dont you get it that editing posts is not allowed AT ALL, whether its a little typo or you pressed "Submit" with an unfinished post on accident, just make a double post
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Creature wrote:Zumza wrote:Creature wrote:Weak Town
Evilbunny
marcoantonimsantos
Maxi123You have been the pioneers into voting maxi123 what made you change your mind?
He's looking genuine town for me, seeing how he's reacting. Also, if you see his plays, he normally looks to be defending someone.
well yeah but he's maxi, and you can see from the post he made earlier that he is annoying. lynch him because he sucks
ill shove a lynch rope up your **** upwoots to the right >>>
i copied ur phrase what u gonna do now hahah
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Processor wrote:Gamemonger and W24 smell so scummy. Time to write a full analysis and then make make a case on them.
Bobithan checked gamemonger and got town.
Could be godfather. Not all results are perfect.
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while im still sure w24 is (red) mafia, i see EB on the other hand as orange mafia. i think both are mafia so ill switch vote to EB cus his lynch is more likely to happen right now.
!vote Evilbunny
i will post my detailed thoughts on evilbunny when i get on laptop
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