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Also maxi isnt defending me.....
He just mentioned the amount of people against me.
Not the same thing....
you know that wont change anything
the only reason im not voting you is because i doubt mafia would defend town (me)
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Yea they were bandwagon votes, but Proc still made a VERY strong case against Luka making him definitely one of the top suspects right now. He covered pretty much everything, and it's obvious they voted because of Proc, so they shouldn't be entirely obligated to post reads along with their votes after such a post.
i guess youre right here
ive just had that feeling like mafia tries to hammer it
yeah proc did cover almost everything
It's not entirely out of the question for scum to defend non-scum to pose themselves as town.
doesnt that pose the town as scum though in most cases
however if youre right here i can agree with proc and do this
!vote luka504
seems like luka's protection was more of an attack at n1kf which he overexxagerated
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I also noticed that his avatar is very close to Bobithan's. (I'm not sure when he change his avatar maybe you will tell me)
how does one even use that to read
what
really
REALLY DUDE
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But now I'm wondering about Zumza. Honestly, he's never been the most coherent forumer, but he's blatantly dodging Anaks questions...
Right now I'm getting bad vibes from him
i think zumza needs to get his portion of attention
he hasnt been really noticed by anyone except one person which voted him whose name i forgot
!unvote
!vote Zumza
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Maxi123 has the potential to be scum independent of whether Luka504 is scum or not.
Analysis coming.
dont we all have that potential?
Waiting for your analysis anyway
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im going to respond to that stuff (although that will just give you rights to say "OMG UR MAFIA CUS UR DEFENDING", oh well)
also im gonna write my responses right inside the quotes because yeah thats more comfortable (highlighting them with lime)
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maxi123 wrote:implying people will try to get serious reads day 1
Needless to say, it's a bad statement.
??
i was surprised that rhaz allowed lynch on day 1, that was no serious post since everyone was meme-ing aroundmaxi123 wrote:LETS GO HIGHSCORE BOYS
Aiming for towncred.
you forgot the first part, which was saying "19 minutes since day 1 begun and we already racked up a page"
i dont understand what is your point here, thats not a serious post eithermaxi123 wrote:Calicara wrote:!vote N1KF
Creature wrote:!vote N1KF
Bobithan wrote:!vote N1KF
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is that some pressure attemptThis post looks like a defense post. It doesn't mean N1KF and Maxi123 are scum buddies. As I can see, scum usually defend the first wagonee to pose like town.
i wanted to see whether that was a pressure or youre actually trying to lynch someone because yeah ive never seen a pressure attempt consisting of not 1 but 3 votes. how can you take that as a defense if i didnt even say anything about n1kf himself
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maxi123 wrote:Bobithan wrote:maxi123 wrote:Bobithan wrote:oh my god can we PLEASE stop with the similar avatars
like seriously
i see no similarity here sir
you know whats really annoying your colorful sigsure my sig may be flamboyant but its not misleading people into thinking one person is another. smitty already unnecessarily confused luka with his avatar similar to N1KF's similar to creature's old avatar. you are obviously doing this just to be a pain.
no im doing it for the sake of bandwagon
This post disturbs me. How's that contributing to the bandwagon?
bandwagon of copying the avatars, not lynch bandwagonmaxi123 wrote:Creature wrote:marcoantonimsantos wrote:!unvote
!vote nolynchI am a daycop and I got a red result on marcoantonimsantos.
!vote marcoantonimsantos
isnt that too early of a hardclaim?
Aiming for towncred (again).
wasnt sure if you were serious or not and hardclaim on d1 is weird so i asked thatmaxi123 wrote:well n1kf might be a confused noob or he might be mafia that got self into trouble
considering my tough experience with trusting noobs in the past i will rather
!vote N1KFLook the Mr. Obvious. He's avoiding to actually read N1KF, instead, voted N1KF rather because he doesn't want noobs in the game.
there we like 3 times that i suspected a silly-acting player or a noob in being mafia but thrown away these suspicious because i thought like "nah wtf they cant be mafia theyre too silly"
i didnt want it to happen again.
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maxi123 wrote:Luka504 wrote:Creature wrote:http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Quickhammer
Quickhammering would take 4 days of discussion and we'd get less reads.
People who dont quickhammer are Town?
How on Earth does that logic make sense?Not neccessarily but usually confirmed as non-mafia, because quickhammer is what in most cases the mafia does
Trying to sound smarter than what he is.
um wtf??? i just answered a question. honestly im starting to think now youre the mafia and trying to pull a mislynch and make up stuff?maxi123 wrote:at first my top suspect was n1kf for his fail read on me and because in general my trust towards new people never turned out well
his behavior and reaction at this giant bandwagon doesn't show that he is scum much (though it doesnt confirm him as town either), so i guess i can
!unvoteevilbunny tried to outright hammer down n1kf with this post:
Evilbunny wrote:Also because we should lynch today and he has the most votes right now:
!vote N1KFso did W24
but i see that more as noobish jumping on bandwagon than scum trait
i suspect smittyw little bit as well but his posts were mostly useless?proc posted very good reads on luka504, but im in doubt
im town (lol i know saying "im town" is stupid but this is to show you guys my thought) and if he is mafia why would he be so eager to protect me? other than trying to attack n1kf that way
his "i dont care if ur doctor" post and the early celebration of n1kf's death do make him look like scum a lot but that agressive protection confuses me
i dont think mafia would protect a town like that
i might vote luka or i might not, i want to see his reaction to the already placed votes1. The main reason he was suspecting N1KF was because he didn't read him and because Maxi123 is against newbies. like i said before im not against newbies but i trust them less now based on past experience
2. "noobish jumping", it's not their first game, bring on. "noobish jumping" =/= "player is an overall noob"
3. The reason he's thinking Luka504 is town, it's because of his defense on Maxi123. Basically, taking opportunity of Luka504 to pose like town. if i got your point correctly here, then: say, some really scummy player protects you when youre a town. would you think he is possibly town because he protected you, the innocent one? i would, because i never had situations like that. you probably wouldnt because youre the experienced player here and had stuff like this happen to youmaxi123 wrote:Creature wrote:!vote Evilbunny
Can we put pressure on him?-_-
really
i dont think it will work if you be like "lets pressure prank him XDDDDDDDD"Indirectly defense here.
i mean ok sure you can call it defense when i tell you that you shouldnt yell out your plans to everyone
this starts to remind me your behavior in game 4 where you were mafia. you seem to make up some stuff again and make false reads
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I might be posting less because ive got sick
Marco's reads on me are awfully wrong, for example the "he dodges questions" thing, are you confusing me with Zumza? I wanted to write a big response to his reads yesterday but then started feeling bad so i chose to disregard that
Might still write it when i get on laptop, if its still relevant
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2. Do not post in this thread unless you are alive in the game. All posts made by dead players and people not in the game will be deleted. No exceptions.
Also congratulation for your 8888 post Creature
@creature gr8 m8 i r8 8/8
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@Zumza He doesn't seem a mafia member to me... He has answered Anak's questions already.
i can now almost certainly say that zumza and marco are scum buddies. That is literally a blind protection, it is so obvious that zumza is acting suspicious and acts stubborn when he has to answer questions, yet you blindly say he's ok and you even claim that im the one ignoring questions? Hmph
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Says the guy that which I have the vote hammer on...
So? Youre not in a better situation than me, and now you just plain ignored my post with a silly response
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He didn't follow the story line with same interest and also lied.
Dont try to get attention away from yourself
Story line? What do you mean with that
"lied" You dont even know for sure, please show me the posts where you think i lied instead of making a random claim like that
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Zumza wrote:maxi123 wrote:Pyromaniac wrote:But now I'm wondering about Zumza. Honestly, he's never been the most coherent forumer, but he's blatantly dodging Anaks questions...
Right now I'm getting bad vibes from him
i think zumza needs to get his portion of attention
he hasnt been really noticed by anyone except one person which voted him whose name i forgot
!unvote
!vote ZumzaYou are the first person who vote me. Did you forget your username?
just went through pages, it was vice versa, you voting smittyw (post #178) sorry for that lol
However its even worse for you because my point was that no one noticed you and you went under the radar with that
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Creature wrote:Then this:
marcoantonimsantos wrote:Ok
so let me answer all the questions I left behind...
@EvilBunny, don't worry. I'm pretty sure you are townie right now. I've put you in the scum list as a test, to check if you are townie or scum. You seem to respond like townies do, and you don't look like a mafia scum. I hope I'm not wrong about you, tho
@Luka507 scum lead all the way... I'm getting to the conclusion that you don't understand what I type (your English is pretty bad asf)... So I'll leave you behind (still scum list)
@Maxi123 teaming with Luka507 almost for sure. Thanks for responding to my analyziz. I needed you to answer to know if you are townie or scum
As for the rest,
@W24 It seems you consider me off-topic. My first posts were just to know how I should play this game (since it's my first time I dont know what to do or say).
@AnatolyEE GTFO PLZ
@Creature You consider me scum, null or townie? I can't understand your post, sorry.
@Onjit Good job using GIFs to make people forget you are actually playing
@Zumza He doesn't seem a mafia member to me... He has answered Anak's questions already.
@Anak Pretty much does nothing, and hey Anak, Zumza has answered your questions. Go back to page 18 or 17.
@Kaslai Why doesn't he post? Apparently he reads the posts (He posted once in a page between 10-19 and no one noticed)
@Ninja Waiting for his replacement, has he hasn't done anything as of yet.
@The rest
I forgot your names
Too lazy to checkUhm can someone clarify for me why this is suspicious?
I dont see it.
Also Creature thanks for anwsering, im gonna unvote for now
!unvote
In that post marco obviously protects Zumza, read my previous post, did you?
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Also Creature, It's my first time as a mafia game member. True, but I've seen the last games, and in-fact, I've got a brain. For me you made you look like a nub-racist
On other words, you think noobs don't understand anything or how to do anything. :'(
Being new doesn't mean I don't know how to play / don't have a mouth to speak.
i think he means he hates to read noobs because if the player is 1st time playing no one knows his play style and its hard to tell if agressivity coming from him is a scum trait or town trait
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@Maxi123 Oh cmon! Trying to get away for putting attentions on me when I said Zumza doesnt look like mafia to me.
that was clearly a protection with no real reason, you just ignored the whole arguement between anak and zumza and said zumza was all cool and answered the questions properly
(In fact I werent the only one, as Processor said the same, but It seems you only attack me as my post completely scums you)
please give me quote of proc saying that, or better the post number so i can see WHEN he said that
"completely scums you" excuse me, but your read on me was, like ive already mentioned, made up and wrong
the reason i attack you is because youre defending zumza which i also already mentioned plenty of times
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Smittyw and gamemonger, do you have anything to add? The fact that you sat silently regarding the thing with Zumza all the time and just rolled in to cast a vote disturbs me
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Onjit wrote:maxi123 wrote:srs
We have less than a dayThis.
If you don't make a decision, even worse, if you refuse to make a decision, you're actively deciding not to lynch, one of the only ways we have of getting rid of scum.
True but i still disagree with the fact that we should lynch someone today. Lynching now will probably bite us later if my theory on Zumza is true (that he is a PR).
Also we cant exactly put anything on Zumza. From what i recall this is his first game. We dont know if he is truly acting scummy or this is his method of playing Mafia
whether that is his method of playing mafia or he is acting scummy (myself and many of the others lean towards the latter), we will find out once we lynch him. this is day 1 and we have lots of players, we will not lose much. if we wont lynch him now he might just keep on his stubborn behavior and that will only cause further misunderstandings, doubts and time wasted on clearing up those misunderstandings.
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There are 16 people who confirmed participation.
only 11 of this allied into voting with majority
there are 6 people in mafia
In the worst case scenario mafia would have 54% control over the votes.
I must say that in real life the worst case scenario never happens but that percent is still big.
actually (math nerd time)
there are 20 players, 5 did not confirm participation but still check in (onjit, alphajon for example) or post often (luka504) so we'll assume all 20 players take part in voting
11 votes needed for lynch
out of 20 players, 6 is mafia and 14 is town
if you are town and both mafias (6 players) want to mislynch you)
- worst case scenario: yes, mafia controls 54% of the votes (6 mafia and 5 town voted)
- best case scenario: mafia controls 0% of the votes (0 mafia and 11 town voted)
average: 27%
if you are mafia and one mafia team (3 players) wants to lynch you, the other doesnt (2 players, not counting you the 3rd one)
- worst case scenario: (in fact both scenarios here are good for town but ill calculate from your point of view) mafia controls 27% of the votes (3 mafia and 8 town/mafia voted)
- best case scenario: mafia controls 0% of the votes (0 mafia, 11 town/mafia voted)
average: 13.5%
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