Mafia | Game 5 - Mafia/Witch Victory: The New Law

TaskManager · 2016-02-28 00:32:06

RhazzleFrazzle wrote:

!vote Ninja
Honestly I still have him down as most likely to be Mafia. We're in MyLo at this point so he's our best option.

just noticed that post
as cali pointed out we have plenty of time (5 irl days), we shouldnt rush with lynching

TaskManager · 2016-02-28 00:51:52

Ninja wrote:

He just seems really aggressive this game.

thats rhaz lol
he nearly got himself lynched for that in game 2 (he was town)

Ninja wrote:

I would vote the people who haven't said anything, but I think it would be fair to at least let them talk first.

i guess they have time to speak up, day just started

TaskManager · 2016-02-28 18:06:36

Onjit wrote:

Calicara wrote:
I would like to hear more from Onjit, Pyro, and AlphaJon, as I do not trust lurkers.
m8 i live in australia cut me some slack
I think I agree more with Ninja. Rhaz's idea of a 'policy lynch' is dubious at best, since it was an almost certain mislynch of Unau. Granted, Unau was playing like an idiot and deserved to be removed, but both Anak and me were against voting him, instead preferring a replacement. The fact that Rhaz can push an almost certain mislynch. (I don't think anyone really thought Unau was mafia)

Anak wrote:

I don't know why we all had to vote for Unau instead of waiting for a replacement and voting who we actually suspected, which was Ninja or Rhazh coincidentally. Idk why Rhazh had to push for that vote instead of voting who he actually suspected.

hey i actually thought about it now
unau acted like an idiot which made all of us suspect him
i highly doubt he would do that if he was mafia
which means we all could know he was town
now, assuming (just a hypothesis) rhazzle is mafia, he knew for sure unau is not mafia and thus has to be taken out
he took the opportunity and everyone's suspicions to push a mislynch?
rhazzle seems somewhat scummy to me now that i reviewed situation that happened previous day

TaskManager · 2016-02-28 19:05:32

Anak wrote:

Whilst I wouldn't doubt that, I don't think Rhazh is mafia as this just seems to be how he plays, aggressively and rather quickly. He'd rather Unau out as soon as possible, rather than having to wait for a replacement. Like how he 'pressure voted' Calicara, he didn't want to wait for her to feel comfortabel to speak.

ik rhaz is an agressive player but theres that slight possiblity he did it #forthemafia

Anak wrote:

Imo I don't even have much to go off on from Day 2 bc a couple people weren't very active. I'd favour Rhazh and Ninja over everyone else, but only slightly.

same here

TaskManager · 2016-02-29 15:43:37

AlphaJon wrote:

Is there a way to get post counts for a user in a topic? There are quite a few people who don't post often, and I want to objectively know who they are without counting 10 pages worth of topics, especially on a phone. I'm not going on the no post=mafia bandwagon (see above), but explanations from them would be useful.

uh
if you dont want to see alignment that way then why bother
anyway theres only one way: count all the posts

RhazzleFrazzle wrote:

!vote AlphaJon

explain

RhazzleFrazzle wrote:

Vote on AlphaJon is now serious.

you wont make it look like it's not just a pressure vote by simply saying that

RhazzleFrazzle wrote:

Cool the mafia is Calicara Ninja and AlphaJon. Now we just have to find that pesky Witch.

classic strategy: "ogm u defnd him u must be scum buddies111!!1!11"
if one person protects another not neccessarily it means they are scum buddies,
look, you attacked alphajon for no reason, if i will say you done wrong will it really mean im scumbuddying with him? no, your reasoning is absurd

now you'll say im buddying with them too? wow! we got 4 mafia players here!!!

you also sound like youre trying to be town leader, to look more plausible

TaskManager · 2016-02-29 19:56:24

RhazzleFrazzle wrote:

We're lynching Ninja today. End of story.

you need like 6 people to agree with that y'know
dont try to look like town leader again >_>

Kaslai wrote:

Maxi on the other hand was pretty quick to jump on the Rhaz-initiated Unau bandwagon before,

actually i was the last one to vote unau and said it was better to replace unau rather than lynch him

TaskManager · 2016-03-01 14:24:43

RhazzleFrazzle wrote:

Anyways, I'm Sheriff. I got a Mafia result on Ninja last night.

look i can say that too
anyways im sheriff i got mafia result on rhazzle last night
doesnt mean its true yet?

look, we have 2 candidates for lynch - rhazzle and ninja
almost certainly 1 of them is scum
we can lynch both and if the first one we lynch is town then 2nd must be mafia?
then again its not 100% guaranteed that 1 of them is scum and if we lynch both and both turn out citizens then were pretty much bimpsed

!vote RhazzleFrazzle
i might pull the vote off if you convince me youre really a sheriff

TaskManager · 2016-03-01 17:22:19

RhazzleFrazzle wrote:

because I claimed Sheriff?

actually
thats not the cause
and ninja more or less explained himself
i cant just ignore your nonsense vote on alpha

TaskManager · 2016-03-01 21:19:15

RhazzleFrazzle wrote:

Where exactly did he explain himself?

Calicara wrote:

Ninja has not explained himself

that was the previous day but yeah i did notice that ive been thinking of him as of town way too much just because of the "ninja vs rhazzle" thing

seriously though people
why nolynch?
if rhazzle is telling truth about being sheriff (which i start to believe more and more) then ninja is either scum or got framed. we dont know whether there is a framer so thats a 50/50
ive rethought this stuff and it is quite confusing to me but now im leaning towards ninja more (again)
if we lynch ninja then: ninja town = rhazzle is a lier or we got a framer (50/50); ninja mafia/witch = rhazzle was saying truth and hopefully a town protective will defend him after the hardclaim
if we lynch rhazzle: rhazzle sheriff = we lost a PR and ninja is still scum/framed 50/50; rhazzle witch = was lying to increase chances of mislynch while using the shield ability to survive after the hardclaim in case mafia attacks during the night; rhazzle mafia = was lying to increase chances of mislynch and own innocence; ninja is most likely innocent but could be witch
out of all that.. i dont even know, rhazzle's hardclaim seems quite truthful now so i guess ill do the next thing:

!unvote
!vote ninja

yes im jumping from side to side and that looks stupid but the situation changes all the time and i rethink stuff sometimes
either way nolynch is just dumb, it would in no way help town

AlphaJon wrote:

Tbh I find it weird that Rhaz waited that long to roleclaim.

i guess the hardclaim was his last resort

Calicara wrote:

Well the day is technically over, but I just wanted to get a post in.

Anak wrote:

Granted we're running out of time,

actually we still have 1 day and 20 hours left...

CREATURE DONT MISS OUT MY VOTE IN MIDDLE OF THE POST PLS

TaskManager · 2016-03-04 12:15:48

ok so
as im reading new posts since day beginning ill post stuff in response to some of the posts

to begin with, i slept peacefully

Creature wrote:

Quickly, the assassin shoots W24 three times, but he didn’t die. The assassin wasted the rest of the bullets on him, finally putting him down. [...] W24 was a brave Bodyguard

****? bodyguard's vest didnt save him? this could mean W24 got attacked before already.. hm but it wasnt the mafia that attacked him the first time because mafia had a kill every night. and we have a veteran also random town cant roll town killing... who could it be then..? what the hell this is confusing. are there any other town roles that can kill that i missed out?
anyway it is obvious now that W24 tried to protect rhazzle. thank you W24 if youre even reading this topic now and i apologise to rhazzle for the day 3 attacks on him.

RhazzleFrazzle wrote:

It implies me as the Veteran.

rhazzle cant be veteran because veteran had a kill while rhazzle was being protected by bodyguard.. or do the game mechanics allow stuff like this to work?

TaskManager · 2016-03-04 20:14:58

RhazzleFrazzle wrote:

First of all, Bodyguard vests are an active ability and not passive night immunity.

Calicara wrote:

Maxi I think you should read up on the roles because that's not how a BG works lol.

lol oops i thought vest works like witch's magic shield

Calicara wrote:

I hope we can hear more from Onjit and Pyro.

yeah, we have 4 days aka a lot of time but i say they should speak asap, previous day some people lurked and "rolled in" just at the end of the day

TaskManager · 2016-03-05 00:13:24

Onjit wrote:

why would the mafia not target rhaz?
either:
- they did target rhaz, but the mafia doing the killing was witch'd to w24
- they can't target rhaz, because rhaz is mafia/witch

or maybe theyre not that stupid and expected rhaz to be protected? so they attacked someone else

TaskManager · 2016-03-05 13:52:28

RhazzleFrazzle wrote:

Anyways I'm starting to lean towards scum on Kaslai.

why?
I have a little feel of him being scummy as well but we have no evidence

N1KF

TaskManager · 2016-03-06 10:29:30

Kaslai wrote:

Maxi seems be be attempting to just slip by unnoticed right now

I don't have anything to say so im not posting
As you can see an entire page was wasted on pointless arguing between Rhaz and Pyro

TaskManager · 2016-03-07 00:37:58

Creature wrote:

Votecount 3.2
[1] Kaslai - RhazzleFrazzle
[0] Onjit
[0] Anak
[0] maxi123
[0] Calicara
[0] Pyromaniac
[0] AlphaJon
[0] RhazzleFrazzle
[0] No lynch
[7] Not voting: Onjit, Anak, maxi123, Calicara, Pyromaniac, AlphaJon, Kaslai.
With 8 alive, it takes 5 4 votes to reach majority.
Replacement for Pyromaniac's slot needed.

you missed calicara's vote nub

i still dont know what to add
anak doesnt seem suspicious to me with his posts right now although his behavior is not much different from game 3

TaskManager · 2016-03-07 15:22:44

Kaslai wrote:

If we mislynch, then the worst case scenario is that we lose 3 town in the night,

Kaslai wrote:

If we nolynch, we'll lose 2 town at most,

wat
i dont get it, explain

Kaslai wrote:

Rhaz: 0% [ ]

you know there is always slight probability that rhaz played this out with ninja to get a confirmed town spot?
i mean thats highly unlikely but still

Kaslai wrote:

Maxi: 50% [||||| ]
Maxi has been aligned with Rhaz from the start, possibly as a ploy to hide scum, possibly just because it's easier than thinking for yourself.

(this one is a response to you as well as someone else that pointed out im teaming with rhaz, idk who)
hmm
i wasnt always siding with rhaz
i was against rhaz with the "lynch unau" bandwagon and only voted to lynch unau at the end because we had to get rid of him anyway
i initially agreed with him about ninja being scummy for copying rhaz's vote (though i went neutral bit later). and ninja turned out to be mafia.
i confronted rhaz when he did an absurd vote on alphajon
and do i look like i support him in voting you right now? no
what's your point?

TaskManager · 2016-03-08 00:21:51

question to game mechanics:

Each night you may track a single player, you are informed of who he/she visit.

^ that is blackmailer's role card, does that action sacrifice the factional kill?

so here are my thoughts/reads/whatever:

Onjit

he plays that kind of joking and memeing citizen, maybe because people think scum wouldnt behave like that to look townish? he was quite of a lurker but now leans to rhazzle a lot because rhaz is recognized as confirmed sheriff. probably does that to feel safe under his wing. however he lays out useful stuff as well sometimes thus i cant outright say he is scum

Anak

although he is a big lurker i dont suspect him as much as some other people, however i still believe he could be witch.
what really bugs me is blackmailer's letter. according to what you said on page 3 the letter was something like "im watching you". what if you came up with that to look more towny and innocent?

maxi123

expanding dong

Calicara

Calicara wrote:
I'm definitely not getting a scum reading from AlphaJon.
pls explain
cali got pressured by rhaz and onjit and plays innocent girl now. interesting
been showing town traits in most of her posts BEFORE page 16
im having a feeling about her being witch

Pyromaniac

i dont know. seeing that he replaced !nb4 and Amds i think he is town because those two would want to give up on the role if they were mafia or witch.
that fight with rhaz too
back to the theory with rhaz and ninja making up the whole thing though.. pyro could be the 3rd mafia and rhaz vs pyro was another played out thing. look everyone so easily believed that pyro is town because of that little drama.

AlphaJon

im more likely to think he is a village idiot than scum or does he just play his role successfully like hostage did in game 3?
he contributes nearly nothing and acts like an innocent townie

Kaslai

this is my top suspect if the "rhazzle = mafia" theory is invalid. he tries to look like innocent town a lot, his reads are mostly wrong but he makes them look all neat (scum-o-meter thing) to be more plausible
when i responded to his read on me the first time he backed out. he repeated the same read recently and i responded to it with the same thing again, so far he didnt respond back.

RhazzleFrazzle

i have already said what i think about rhaz.
he is most likely confirmed sheriff but there is probability that he was mafia and sacrificed ninja to gain confirmed town spot. and right now he got a confirmed town spot for pyro as well which could be 3rd mafia

so i have 2 theories:

common one:
mafia: Kaslai, AlphaJon/Onjit, Ninja
witch: calicara/anak

"rhazzle=mafia" theory:
mafia: rhaz, pyro, ninja
witch: ??? theres a lot of candidates for this spot

TaskManager · 2016-03-08 13:54:44

apparently we have just 9 hours left gg

im willing to vote calicara but if we mislynch now it will be 3 town vs 2 mafia vs 1 witch the next day

TaskManager · 2016-03-08 17:15:56

Idk. At least Cali was showing town traits earlier. While onjit was outright useless until now and what he does now is sitting under Rhaz's wing. One of them is witch. If whoever we lynch today is town we know what to do tomorrow.
I hope I wont regret this
!vote Onjit

TaskManager · 2016-03-08 20:54:59

RhazzleFrazzle wrote:

Onjit is so obviously Town.

im not going to simply trust you here, please explain why is he so obviously town

RhazzleFrazzle wrote:

Calicara and Kaslai I know are scum 100% at this point.

did you investigate at least 1 of these 3?

TaskManager · 2016-03-08 23:14:47

oh wow OH WOW

Calicara

TaskManager · 2016-03-08 23:33:50

Calicara wrote:

Anak we were going for a play that didn't quite work. We were trying to copy maxis style of handwriting in order to get you to suspect him. Clearly it didn't work. It was an experimental play, and we didn't have much to lose.

Why me ;(
You failed tho i barely talk like that

TaskManager · 2016-03-08 23:35:53

Also why do i get 403 error when trying to view the quicktopics

TaskManager · 2016-03-08 23:55:55

soooooo whos hosting next game? Pls dont start sign ups until 14:00 UTC c:

TaskManager · 2016-03-09 14:24:28

i actually thought 3 town vs 3 scum wouldnt count as lose to town but whatever

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