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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

Yes and I can assure you that I won't let majority hit this soon. Take your vote off for now.

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

Whether they want to lynch me or not I won't let the day end this early. Vote me if you want, but not until Monday/Tuesday.

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

Alright now that I'm home let's deal with this post
Responses in bold.

aaaaaaaand we're back.

So here's what I'm thinking.

As far as I know (??) Rhaz is the only mafia veteran here. I've played a lot but its been mainly for fun. He doesn't seem to be having fun lol What are you trying to accomplish by saying I don't enjoy this?

There's also no complete nubs here. Everyone is pretty smart, right? So why would someone like Onjit, who's a pretty smart cookie, obviously try to jam up discussion? I mean it seems like a pretty dumb mistake for a mafia to make, one that would clearly make him look suspicious. I'm not getting scum reading off of him (YET) just because he wasn't agreeing with rhaz. Yes you say Onjit isn't scum because he wasn't agreeing with me. You say that he's suspicious as hell but too suspicious for it to be a mistake made by Mafia? You might wanna read back over game 1.

Hostage was OBVIOUSLY just making a joke. I dont see where you guys are getting the "taken to far" part. If anything, ya'll took it too far. How would a joke be obvious when it was phrased "Zoey is scum". The joke came past the early D1 joking phase. It may have been a joke, but I don't think Hostage was too clear on telling us it's a joke.

And now we come to Rhaz. He's being very, very aggressive, and keeps saying that mafia are usually passive. Read game 2 and the Mafia chat for it. Well, knowing that none of us are experts, couldn't he just be saying that to cover up for him coming on too strong originally? My gut is going with him. I kinda feel like he came on super strong and then leaned into the role once he realized he'd goofed. I'm honestly appauled that you would consider me doing something like that. First of all telling new players false information is wrong, second of all if I present misinformation like that it could be easily uncovered.

Also, zoey saying the thing about "he's always like this" or whatever makes makes me think that she's somehow connected? I've shown her a few games I've played in. If you want you can ask me for games I've played in to read if you wanna gauge my playstyle.

As for the rest of you, i dunno tbh. Maybe we lynch rhaz and if its not him we can go for calicara lol Ends by saying "IDK if Rhazh is scum even though I clearly put a scumread on him. If you aren't scumreading me, then what's the point of this post?

!lynch Rhazzlefrazzle

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

Guys look if you lynch rhaz and he's town he won't be able to discuss making it easier for the mafia.just think.

I'm flattered that you think I'm Town, but I don't like the way you approach this defense. The way you word it sounds more like fishing for Town cred than actually trying to stop a mislynch. You say this almost like you have some inside information if you know what I mean.

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Guys look if you lynch rhaz and he's town he won't be able to discuss making it easier for the mafia.just think.

I'm flattered that you think I'm Town, but I don't like the way you approach this defense. The way you word it sounds more like fishing for Town cred than actually trying to stop a mislynch. You say this almost like you have some inside information if you know what I mean.

No it's just that i thought about this and if we make a mistake,we'll probably lynch the wrong person more often because of lack of rhaz's reads and points and whatnot.

This post basically just says "Don't lynch Rhazh because he's good at the game", without even bothering to note my alignment. The way he comes off by automatically assuming I'm Town worries me.

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

Pyro I was saying don't hammer, not don't vote? Bringing me to L-1 is an easy way for Mafia to just come in and end the day early with a nice mislynch. Also you clearly didn't read my last post against him.

Now since I've been put to L-1, I don't feel like I have any other choice but to break my own rule. Take a guess as to what role would be extra aggressive with scum hunting?

I am the Vigilante. I decided not to shoot last night, but Hostage probably would have made a nice policy shot to remove a possibility of an easy mislynch on him. I didn't want to reveal so soon, but I need these votes off of me.

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

You're "appaulled" (it's appalled, by the way), that I would accuse you of lying in a game literally based on lying?

How dare I!

Let's not be over dramatic.

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Also, I don't know if you realize but you're turning everyone against you. Hostage was defending you and then you YELLED AT HIM, and made him change his vote.

Also your post in response to me was WAY too sassy so now there is no way I am unvoting.

I'm "appalled" that you would accuse me of doing something immoral like that. There's a few things that could work for Mafia that are considered immoral, like lying about irl occupations to explain thread dodging (Sorry I wasn't on earlier I was at my mom's funeral). Lying to new players on how to play the game right is something I wouldn't do as any alignment.

You didn't read why I voted Hostage. His post said that if we lynch me we lose "my reads", but he isn't even considering the possibility of me being Mafia. The way he came off makes me feel like he knows I'm Town.

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

Also why would you reveal a PR, even if (especially if) you're about to die? You realize that now you're going to die regardless of whether or not the votes come off of you?

it looks like a ploy to me

My god this is one of the most braindead posts I've seen all game. I'm not even scumreading Pyro honestly because he looks more like a VI than anything. Pyro misleading new players on how to play a game is something I'd consider taking your scum play too far. Ffs I'm going to college to become a teacher, I'd never do that. I don't think anyone who uses a tactic like that should be playing this game anyways.

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

Unrelated but Rhazh why do you keep analysing posts and referring to people as if they're not there.

Sometimes I directly address a player, other times I just say my thoughts for the entire game to read.

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

ok but how is my post "braindead"?

If you're going to school to be a teacher you may want to work on not attacking the intellect of someone when trying to explain something, and ya know, actually explain it.

Let me explain MY thoughts.

I was just asking what your reasoning for revealing yourself was? I was just thinking that if you reveal that you're vigilante, the mafia is obviously going to target you. Yeah, sure, you may squeeze off a shot and get one of them (if you're lucky), but you'll still die.

However, you COULD have just tried to clear yourself through other measures (like, idk, maybe not yelling at everyone) and NOT revealed that you are one of the most powerful town roles. You think I wouldn't try that first? If I get to L-1 I'd rather play it safe to avoid the mislynch on myself.

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That's all assuming you're town. If you are mafia you could be putting on this ridiculous "I would NEVER lie in a bimpsing game of mafia" horse kisses :^) to try to trick people. Claiming Vigilante as Mafia in this setup would be retarded. If I were lying the real Vig could counterclaim/shoot me tonight.

Then you claim vigilante to try to shock people into unvoting for you. Does this not make sense? Well yeah because lynching the Vigilante D2 isn't the most helpful thing.

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@Bobithan-yeah obviously we could just look that up but I was just brainstorming. Is this you admitting that it was nothing more than a crazed conspiracy theory on my play?

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

i just read every post and i STILL have no idea what is going on except idk man
now i'm p suspicious of pyro

also seriously rhazh, assuming you're not lying about being vig, why did u try to tell ppl not to vote for u when you had half majority? like, really aggressively. that's not going to help you at all.

!unvote
!vote pyromaniac

also good thing about this is now we can probably figure out who mafia is based on how quick they were to vote rhazh

A lot of Pyro's accusations towards me came while I was at the movies, and I wasn't able to respond very well on my phone. Revealing was a decision I made when I realized how many votes there were against me. Also I'd take that vote off. I'm leaning more towards Pyro being a Town VI than scum. Calicara and Hostage are still my top two scum picks.

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Village_Idiot

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

Early on into D2 I noticed something regarding Zoey. She seemed to be pushing less on me after the night ended. This is just a theory, but I've been thinking she may be the Mafia role cop and she stopped pushing me when she found out I could kill her at night. It's a bit of a long shot, but I don't like how her attitude towards me changed so suddenly. Obviously her way of saying I'm not Mafia has no real backing up, and I feel like it may just be a way to not prod the Vig to shoot her.

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I'm working on a large reads list for all living players, but Bob I can say at this point that there's no way Zelda can be Mafia if Onjit or Evilbunny is Mafia. Also I'd say at this point that if either Onjit or Evilbunny flips Mafia, the other one probably will too. I'll explain it more once I'm done writing this wall.

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

I'll do Zoey and Hostage when I feel like it.

Processor:

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Obviously Mafia.

Anak:

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Opens up by stating the obvious and making a gigantic non alignment indicative fail. Proceeds to lightly push against Hostage for his "joke" on Zoey's alignment. Accepts that it's a joke from Hostage and doesn't take a stance against him. Seemed a bit too weak of a push on him though. I'm also not a fan of how he repeats what Zoey said, espically with how what Zoey said doesn't mean much to begin with. His vote against me seems sudden and out of nowhere, and he later says it's because I'm too demanding. I'll admit I wasn't making the best defense for myself yesterday, but I feel that he wants to post without any real content to appear to not be inactive.

Verdict:Moderate scum, potentially allied with Zoey

Bobithan:

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Relatively inactive, but still has things to contribute. He doesn't have the largest presence, but I can see some clear Town intentions from what he does post. His inactivity could probably be explained by the fact that half the time he forgets that the game even exists. I see a strong difference in play from last game.
Verdict:Moderate Town

Calicara:

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She only showed up D1 to prod dodge, and D2 all she did was respond to my pressure vote against her. She hasn't done anything else other than overreact to a single vote on her, which strikes me as odd. Town shouldn't be worried about a single vote, espically if it's an obvious pressure vote. What's even worse is that since then Cali is nowhere to be found. She brings nothing to the table and only posts defensively. Her only other post was switching her vote from me to Hostage. Other suspects are the only thing making my read on her weaker.
Verdict:Slight scum

Creature:

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Opens with an unusual statement. I'd say if he were to make that statement as Town it would be more likely for Mafia to avoid being inactive (See: Anak). He then calls Hostage suspicious for saying he's gonna die N1, when not only is that an obvious joke, but he's made the exact same joke in multiple other games. Notes that D1 scumreading is useless, however it's good as a base for later scumreads. Take my suspicion on Zoey as an example. Him pointing out the softclaim in Zoey's post is anti Town, but I'd put that more on inexperience than him being scum. His push on me D1 is clearly coming from a Town mindset. He hasn't been too active D2, but he's been contributing. One thing I find odd though is how he called me out for my playstyle D1 then D2 decided to say it's just how I am as Town, but that could be explained by Creature playing in games on that site. 8F, a game that recently ended could be where he judges my playstyle from.
Verdict:Moderate Town

Evilbunny+Onjit:

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I'm putting these two together because I see similarities in their playstyles, and also a connection between the two. Both are inactive, but Evilbunny says he's busy IRL and Onjit is asleep during most of the discussion. Evilbunny opened D1 by saying inactives should be lynched, but isn't the most active himself. He opened D2 by commenting on my tone, however it hardly seems like he's hunting my alignment. I'm not sure how it's "sketchy", for someone not to leave an impression on you. Evilbunny's biggest target is Zelda, and I feel like his "I hate to believe Rhazh is Town" comment is him being dissapointed that he couldn't safely push my lynch. Onjit shows extremely similar reads. He accusees me at first, and immediatly goes to Zelda. The mentality I see in the two shows that they want to jump on the bandwagons for "Rhazh is scum for his aggression", and "lynch the inactives". Their push against Zelda completely disregards the difference between flaking and lurking, and I feel it may be their backup mislynch.
Verdict:Moderate scum, and one flipping scum nearly confirms the other as scum.

Pyromaniac:

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Not much else I can say that I haven't already said.
Verdict:Strong Town

RhazzleFrazzle:

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I'm a horse.

ZeldaXD:

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Completely null. Likely to be replaced out. Remember that lurking=/=flaking.

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

The fail was when you didn't realize I was in the game XD.

Anyways my read on you stands. You're posting, but you aren't posting.

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

The thread gets crazy and you still have nothing to say.

!unvote
!vote Onjit

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

*don't do it
and why aren't we agreeing to lynch ZaldaXD

Because he isn't lurking, he just flaked out of the game. Forgetting the game isn't alignment indicative because they'll just be replaced with someone more readable.

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

I like how I make a jokey post about how things got crazy (just like this one from zoey) and Rhaz immediately switches his vote to me.

And I like how you completely ignore the things I just said about you about 5 posts ago.

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

Less than 2 days left until we decide a lynch. Onjit is my top pick because of the information provided by the lynch.

(Also I want post 577777)

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!vote Processor

HAHA MINE!!!!!

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

Zoey isn't the ideal lynch IMO. Onjit and Evilbunny are top targets IMO. The two seem coordinated.

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Re: Mafia 3: The Hunt for RhazzleFrazzle's Gun - Game Topic

Onjit stop posting with me you make us look bad!
the evidence is gathering itself..DUN DUN

Yeah you're both Mafia. Care to tell us your roles so we can lynch the Jailkeeper first?

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Failed sarcasm gets you two nowhere.

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Onjit stop posting with me you make us look bad!
the evidence is gathering itself..DUN DUN

at this point there's nothing we can do to make us not look suspicious lol

Is this an admission of guilt?