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Rhaz I actually had no idea you were playing I just got really confused bc I thought you were overseeing everything and making comments and idk why
uw0t?
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Believe me as much as I wanted to rant at you all in the last two games I try to not influence games I'm not in.
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RhazzleFrazzle wrote:Anyways Creature is at the top of my scum list right now. I forgot to add that he feels like he wants to hide under the radar as well. His lack of contribution worries me.
This is D1 geez, you can't force everyone to show their leads asap.
However, you're looking very scummy by attacking everybody who's saying something. You're in general pointing someone's personality as if he was actually scum. You're likely manipulating town into believing you just because you're experienced and stuff, It's weird how nobody besides me is suspecting you.
Regarding Hostage, I don't even need to point he's being suspicious at all. And I wasn't fishing Zoey's role, I never pointed out Zoey was suspicious at all. I don't think Zoey is mafia, but I am not getting fooled again.
Who's saying what you consider fluff can be town as equally as scum, accusing everybody for saying fluff is a scum strategy to get mislynches. Stop trying to lead mislynches.
Responses to what I bolded:
Well why wouldn't I be pushing someone if I think they're scum? I'd rather look deeper into my initial reads than see something scummy and ignore it. Also I really don't want people to agree with me just because of my experience. Disagreement furthers discussion IMO.
And yes, you were trying to fish Zoey's role. You had no reason at all to point out her softclaim. It's best to not paint a big red target on one of our PRs. You may be used to Town of Salem where the only way to defend yourself is to claim a role, but here since we have days of discussion time it's not reccomended. Best for the PRs to stay hidden from the Mafia. Only the Mafia would want to find out the PRs at this point anyways.
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Come on guys, this is D1 and there's already 3 pages of arguing over zoey "to be or not to be" scum. We can't accuse anyone on D1 because there's no data, besides some speculations based on posts.
Speculations based on posts is how the game is played. Besides, what are we gonna have tomorrow? Our only investigative can't do anything until one of the Mafia dies, and even then he can only confirm 1 Mafia.
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Guys pls. Why would we lynch day 1? We know nothings except that rhaz is needlessly aggressive. Saying zoey is mafia based on her last games is silly. It's called the gamblers fallacy. Assuming something is more likely to happen based on past experiences when really it's independent. (This is assuming that roles are picked randomly)
To be honest I'd be more apt to go for rhaz. Very pushy.
I'm not saying she's Mafia because RNG. I'm pushing her because she was a bit inactive D1 in the last two games. I'm judging behavior and not RNG.
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Hostage wrote:Pyromaniac wrote:Guys pls. Why would we lynch day 1? We know nothings except that rhaz is needlessly aggressive. Saying zoey is mafia based on her last games is silly. It's called the gamblers fallacy. Assuming something is more likely to happen based on past experiences when really it's independent. (This is assuming that roles are picked randomly)
To be honest I'd be more apt to go for rhaz. Very pushy.
Good point,but lets not jump to conclusions and lynch rhaz,you'd totally ruin your own point if you did that the next day
Not necessarily, because I'd be lynching him based on aggressive behavior THIS game. Regardless, I'm not saying we should definitely lynch him, just that he makes more sense than zoey.
What are your thoughts on Hostage?
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Going by who the Mafia picked to kill, I'd say the Mafia have some of stronger players. Jonathan was one of the stronger players last game, and he was too under the radar this game for it to be likely for him to be protected.
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I think any role can still carry out their action if they die that night. Vig shots go through, Cops get their results (Not like it matters), and I was in fact informed that I was jailed last night.
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There shouldn't be anything else that could have happened to any of us unless I was Vigged and I didn't know it (Proc said he won't say if someone is attacked in jail).
Zoey why do you say that? You know that doesn't mean anything. You know how the Mafia killing mechanic is here, so me being roleblocked confirms nothing. Why did you feel the need to bring it up?
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RhazzleFrazzle wrote:Zoey why do you say that? You know that doesn't mean anything. You know how the Mafia killing mechanic is here, so me being roleblocked confirms nothing. Why did you feel the need to bring it up?
mostly just to have something to post.
and idk why you're not agreeing with me lollook, if you're godfather, chances are that n1, you'd be the one to do the killing. why not, y'know? it's highly unlikely you'd be discovered.
so ye
Why wouldn't the backup role cop be the one to make the kill?
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I want everyone to give their top Town and scum reads right now. For me I'd say Pyro is most likely to flip Town, and Zoey is the most likely to flip Mafia. There's also a ton of inactives who may be trying to fly under the radar, so I'll do this.
!vote Calicara
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Flip=die and have your role revealed
Zoey isn't there anyone who strikes you as being more likely to flip Town or Mafia? The more you stay indecisive the more my read on you grows.
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I wasn't reading you as scum. The vote was to put pressure on an inactive player.
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I'd also like to remind everyone, in game 2 all the scum lurked so they wouldn't be noticed, and it resulted in not a single one of them being lynched until endgame.
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I'm probably missing some but here's a quick list of people who haven't really done much.
Bobithan
Calicara
Onjit
Evilbunny
I really want them to start contributing and not lurking in the background. Scum lurked through all of game 2 and won because of it combined with the lack of pressure on them from Town.
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Evilbunny's posts:
As for Onjit all I'm seeing from him is fluff. Reminds me of how he acted in game 1 as Executioner before he fake claimed Sheriff. Instead of actively scum hunting he passively talks game mechanics to appear to be doing something.
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Calicara's attitude seems much more defensive right now. The pressure vote was to get her to start being more active, however she seems much different from her play in the last two games. There she seemed more willing to jump into discussion. Here she wants to keep her opinions to herself. The past two games she was both Town, and you can see a clear difference in playstyle with how she's been playing now. My vote on her now stands.
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Man whatever. You're just reading into things. You literally have zero evidence against me, and here you are convicting me. You're trying really hard to start a blood bath here, but in my eyes you're the suspicious one.
!Vote RhazzleFrazzle
Did you not read Bobithan's post? Did you not read the OP? How else is someone supposed to determine anyone's alignment. We only have one investigative role, we don't get to use it until one of the Mafia die first, and even after that one of the Mafia is investigation immune.
That vote against me is nothing but pure OMGUS. The moment I put mild pressure on you, you accuse me of lying with no evidence on you when I've provided plenty. I don't know what you're trying to say with me "trying to start a blood bath", other than a direct accusation towards your accuser for actively hunting the Mafia while you use the exact same strategy that scum used in game 2.
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Onjit has replied to the thread, but he has yet to "post" if you understand what that means. Literally nothing he's said so far advances the game.
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First impressions on the 4 people I pointed out are decently Townish for all except Cali. I still support her lynch, and I don't see why Onjit is voting me. Aggression isn't really a scum tell, since scum are more likely to play passive. Speaking of passive that vote a pretty terrible idea Zelda.
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@Creature voting at this point is fine so long as we don't hammer to early.
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@Zoey care to back up your vote on Hostage?
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Also what are your thoughts on Cali Zoey?
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I don't feel too pressured at this point. If I were actually worried about being lynched I would defend myself. I'm more genuinely surprised that people are siding with Calicara's OMGUS vote against me than worried I may be lynched.
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I'm not at home right so I won't fully respond to pyro until later, but I can say that as any alignment I would never try to deceive you on how to play the game. I have morals I won't break just to win. Take that vote off so the Mafia can't quickhammer.
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