What is your view on homosexuality?

BillyP · Before February 2015

'Sex for pleasure' is something ridiculous? So you're saying that we're all limited to either having sex for no reason whatsoever or to reproduce? Do you fully understand the meaning of the word, 'pleasure'?

Also, what God says means nothing to atheist homosexuals.

I'm straight too, by the way, just clearing up some points, hah.

Last edited by BillyP (Jun 7 2011 10:46:57 am)

BEE · Before February 2015

Tako enjoys ignoring my posts.

I wonder if this is because he knows I'm right, or he just wants to argue for the sake of argument and doesn't actually care about the topic.

"Some people don't listen, they jsut wait for their turn to talk."

RPGMaster2000 · Before February 2015

TakoMan02 wrote:

'Sex for pleasure' is something ridiculous invented by humans and a few species of primate.

Just because it's ridiculous to you that some people actually enjoy pleasure doesn't make it ridiculous to everyone else.

TakoMan02 wrote:

If you just think about it for a second, if nature 'allowed' gay sex, why would it significantly raise the risk of AIDS or HIV?

News flash: It doesn't!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS#Cause
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_and_AI … drug_users

Besides, nature doesn't allow or disallow anything. It is without intention and simply leaves the current living species here to duke it out in a battle of "survival of the fittest". That's what we call natural selection.

BEE · Before February 2015

Besides, nature doesn't allow or disallow anything. It is without intention and simply leaves the current living species here to duke it out in a battle of "survival of the fittest". That's what we call natural selection.

WHY DOES HE KEEP ASSUMING NATURE HAS INTENT. He clearly ignored my comment on that pages ago.

Pandapo · Before February 2015

Tako I have just one question. o,0
You say love and pleasure are something stupid?
But, than why did you hat a GF?

Last edited by Pandapo (Jun 7 2011 12:56:25 pm)

Nou · Before February 2015

TakoMan02 wrote:

'Sex for pleasure' is something ridiculous invented by humans and a few species of primate.

Ha! I'm sure you won't find it as ridiculous when you've had it

Echo! · Before February 2015

^ haha! Tako.. Sex is good

Tako · Before February 2015

Nou, that was really immature, so I'm going to ignore it.

Nature has no intention. Fine. We can stop there. But, if we did, nothing would be solved.

There is no scientific answer to homosexuality and whether it is right or wrong. I understand this.

But, I don't wish to discuss from a matter-of-fact standpoint, because there is no discussion.

Homosexuality is just the same as bisexuality and heterosexuality. Homosexual people are no different from other people.

But, when it comes down to the advancement of the world, which is better? Honestly.

Chimi · Before February 2015

TakoMan02 wrote:

'Sex for pleasure' is something ridiculous invented by humans and a few species of primate

1 Corinthians 7:3?5 wrote:

(3) The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. (4) For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. (5) Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

In other words, Do not deny your marital and sexual partner from sex, except when fasting.

Last edited by Chimi (Jun 7 2011 1:39:17 pm)

RPGMaster2000 · Before February 2015

TakoMan02 wrote:

But, when it comes down to the advancement of the world, which is better? Honestly.

Every person in the whole world can contribute to to the advancement of the human race, regardless of sexuality. Stating that the only way to advance the human race is through reproduction is a very narrow way of looking at ourselves since we've managed to accomplish so much more through science.

BEE · Before February 2015

Nature has no intention. Fine. We can stop there. But, if we did, nothing would be solved.

No. Just no. There is nothing to be SOLVED, there is only truth to be DISCOVERED.

And I agree with nou and echo, you can't diss sex unless you've had it.

The philosophical definition of something being "bad" is if it takes away from your own regular lifestyle. Unless its rape or your partner is of an extreme-size (either way large or way small) it typically adds to your life experience than detracts.

Chimi · Before February 2015

BEE wrote:

...your partner is of an extreme-size (either way large or way small)

Lol, I think there's an easy fix for that...

Tako · Before February 2015

But you didn't answer the question. Saying sexuality doesn't matter at all in the advancement of the world is, in my opinion, not right.

Ok, I need to point something else out too: BEE and RPG are both a lot older then I am, and smarter. I will understand eventually and we will come to an agreement, but it will simply take longer.

Last edited by Tako (Jun 7 2011 1:53:57 pm)

RPGMaster2000 · Before February 2015

TakoMan02 wrote:

But you didn't answer the question. Saying sexuality doesn't matter at all in the advancement of the world is, [b]in my opinion,[/i] not right.

I did answer the question. Not once did I state that it doesn't matter at all in the grand scheme of life. To repeat myself for the millionth time, heterosexuality is preferred from an evolutionary standpoint.

From a social perspective, sexuality has little to no relevance to your own quality of life. Depression and suicidal thoughts are almost always brought upon you by other people in your surroundings due to peer pressure to live like them and their inability to accept people who are different.

Tako · Before February 2015

Ok then. For some reason, now I understand you.

D: You're orange.

I completely agree with that statement.

Last edited by Tako (Jun 7 2011 2:08:06 pm)

BEE · Before February 2015

Depression and suicidal thoughts are almost always brought upon you by other people in your surroundings due to peer pressure to live like them and their inability to accept people who are different.

.... Or a chemical imbalance in the brain, don't discount the effects of your dopamine receptors being broken!

RPGMaster2000 · Before February 2015

TakoMan02 wrote:

Ok then. For some reason, now I understand you.

I'm glad we finally reached an understanding on common ground.

BEE wrote:

.... Or a chemical imbalance in the brain, don't discount the effects of your dopamine receptors being broken!

But that didn't sound quite as good as my previous statement.

TheGreenTroll · Before February 2015

RPGMaster2000 wrote:

TheGreenTroll wrote:
Sexuality is nothing meaningless. Sexuality decides everything in this world. A world with heterosexual people will continue passing on the legacy of mankind to coming generations, while a world with homosexuals would raze everything that mankind has fought for - life.
From an evolutionary standpoint, I completely agree, but that's not what I was referring to. I was talking about the social aspect where sexuality shouldn't factor in to anything regarding your social status and relationships.

Social aspects is a mirror image of humans nature. Humans nature is to dominate, survive and reproduce, therefore it's not a surprise that people are hostile against homosexuals. But humans do also have the chance to think rationally and to manipulate, as our consciousness allows us to do that. Thinking rationally is in my opinion to obey the laws of nature and show that breaking the laws of nature is wrong, and to manipulate is the opposite (occuring this topic). Everything that stunts (manipulates) mankind must be stopped. There is a huge psychological aspect behind everything, and I invite you to read about Sigmund Freuds psychoanalysis.

I know that it might sound hostile towards homosexual people, and I do believe that being homosexual is wrong, but I would never show hostility against a homosexual person just because of the persons sexuality.

Tako · Before February 2015

Laws of nature? Is their such a thing, bee and rpg?

BEE · Before February 2015

My dear TGT,

The only people who cite Freud as a source are those who know little about psychology as a science.

As for RPGmaster's name, it cannot decide which color to be and its confusing me.

Chimi · Before February 2015

Lol. Bee and RPG, the sages of Everybody Edits.

RPGMaster2000 · Before February 2015

TheGreenTroll wrote:

Social aspects is a mirror image of humans nature. Humans nature is to dominate, survive and reproduce, therefore it's not a surprise that people are hostile against homosexuals. But humans do also have the chance to think rationally and to manipulate, as our consciousness allows us to do that. Thinking rationally is in my opinion to obey the laws of nature and show that breaking the laws of nature is wrong, and to manipulate is the opposite (occuring this topic). Everything that stunts (manipulates) mankind must be stopped. There is a huge psychological aspect behind everything, and I invite you to read about Sigmund Freuds psychoanalysis.
I know that it might sound hostile towards homosexual people, and I do believe that being homosexual is wrong, but I would never show hostility against a homosexual person just because of the persons sexuality.

A very well thought out post, thank you for your input.

I would have to disagree on the point that most people condemn homosexuality because it's in their nature to shun anything that doesn't contribute to the human race, that's giving them far too much credit. In most countries, homosexuality is looked down upon because of victims of religious conditioning and indoctrination who spread hate and lies in the name of their god. If you look at what's going on in America, this is a very heated topic that's still going on today.

Besides, who is to say that homosexuality stunts the human race in any way? Because we have yet to fully understand the nature of the multiple sexualities that exist, it's very arrogant to assume that homosexuality is detrimental to the growth of our race simply because they don't reproduce.

Chimi wrote:

Lol. Bee and RPG, the sages of Everybody Edits.

I grew a massive beard just by reading that, thanks. >_>

BEE wrote:

As for RPGmaster's name, it cannot decide which color to be and its confusing me.

I became a chameleon, sorry if I neglected to inform everyone.

BEE · Before February 2015

Laws of Nature = Gravity, The Water Cycle, Death

If referred to as "truths" of nature yes they exist, but technically speaking, something can only become a law if it cannot be disproved, but something can never become a law from a theory unless all possibilities have been exhausted, which is theoretically impossible.

Chimi · Before February 2015

o_0 My brain just went out.

BEE · Before February 2015

Uh. Okay how about.

For a theory to become a law, ALL possibilities have to be tested. This is virtually impossible if you consider how many possibilities there are in the world.

Example, Gravity is still a "theory" because there are things in the future that may not abide to this "theory". Some call it a "law" because it has withstood the test of time and has yet to be disproven, but because it STILL HAS THE POSSIBILITY to be disproven, it is, by definition, a theory.

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