What is your view on homosexuality?

Tako · Before February 2015

You may see a fool talking about something he doesn't know much about, but I see it as me sharing my opinion.

This is amusing. Comm'on people! Give me your wildest opinions! All I've heard so far is "homosexuality is right because people can love whoever they want!"

Well, mostly. Supadorf said something a little different.

32OrtonEdge32dh · Before February 2015

God, I just hate homophobes. Let's try a little role reversal: what if homosexuals outnumbered us heteros? What would you do then? Homosexuality isn't a choice, if it was there would be a lot less. Almost every species on Earth has both hetero-and-homosexual couplings. Don't believe me? Go on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_sexual_behaviour
If it's not in your "God"'s master plan to have gays on Earth, why are they so prevalent?

Echo! wrote:

there brother or sister

Eww...incest.

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Tako · Before February 2015

If homo's outnumber hetero's: I would say the world is just plain twisted and the human race has lost a good sense of morality.
[EDIT]^So apparently we're not allowed to say h?mo, but we're allowed to say homosexual.

And God does what He wants to create His master plan. There are homosexual animals because He wanted you to say that. Everything falls into place perfectly. So perfectly, in fact, that He knows what you're going to do next.

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32OrtonEdge32dh · Before February 2015

Did "God" know that I was going to say this?: I hate religion as well. It's all faith-based. No facts. There was a Jesus, but he died thousands of years ago. No resurrection. That's bull. And no dude named Noah built a huge boat and got two of every animal. That's just plain silly. It all started with one dude trying to be "cool" and he got his buddies and invented a Judaism. Then some hop-ons made Islam and Christianity and Buddha went and did his own thing...but this is all irrelevant. What matters is that your views most likely are coming from your faith, which was invented a few thousand years ago by an r-tard who hated gays. I took it back millennia to prove you wrong. Lawyered.
EDIT: Just copy and paste this: h?mo I have my ways.

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musuki · Before February 2015

Why is homosexuality 'immoral'?

32OrtonEdge32dh · Before February 2015

It isn't.

Sabrillian · Before February 2015

TakoMan02 wrote:

If homo's outnumber hetero's: I would say the world is just plain twisted and the human race has lost a good sense of morality.
[EDIT]^So apparently we're not allowed to say ho-mo, but we're allowed to say homosexual.
And God does what He wants to create His master plan. There are homosexual animals because He wanted you to say that. Everything falls into place perfectly. So perfectly, in fact, that He knows what you're going to do next.

Please do not bring religion into this. You are arguing from your own opinion. This disagreement is not getting us anywhere at all. :rolleyes:

Hurricane · Before February 2015

Supadorf24 wrote:

There is no right or wrong in life.

So if I personally knew your brother/sister and I shot them, that's not wrong? Sweet! I was wanting to use my Shot Gun.

RPGMaster2000 · Before February 2015

TakoMan02 wrote:

And God does what He wants to create His master plan. There are homosexual animals because He wanted you to say that. Everything falls into place perfectly. So perfectly, in fact, that He knows what you're going to do next.

I guess it was only a matter of time before religion would be brought in to the discussion to once again provide nothing of value whatsoever.

Please start thinking for yourself instead of constantly trying to appease your "moral" authority that is God. Turning homosexuality into a debate about whether or not it is right or wrong on a moral plane as opposed to debating it on a rational plane based on facts, truth and evidence just goes to show the profound ignorance people show towards homosexuality. It has never at any point been a moral question to rational people because homosexuality is hardwired and is decided at birth. This is scientifically proven and is not open to debate.

Turning the debate about homosexuality into one about "morals" is just an utter waste of everyones time because morals simply do not factor in to nature.

Tako · Before February 2015

^Relgion plays no part in this discussion whatsoever. I was answering an off-topic question by 32nortonedge32 about religion.

ABANDON RELIGIOUS VIEWS, PLEASE.

Hey, Sabrillian, hi. Can you stop trying to end this debate? You're not really saying anything positive, just a bunch of negative mumbo-jumbo. I didn't make this topic for amusement, I wanted to see what people's opinions are.

For anyone that wants to know my reasoning as to why homosexuality is wrong, read the first post. Please.

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supadorf24 · Before February 2015

Hurricane wrote:

Supadorf24 wrote:
There is no right or wrong in life.
So if I personally knew your brother/sister and I shot them, that's not wrong? Sweet! I was wanting to use my Shot Gun.

Not to get into a debate on moral values, but, no, that wouldn't be wrong. If you thought that that was the right thing to do, go ahead. But you would be violating others' moral values, and laws, which are a compromise of the general public's moral values.

Sabrillian · Before February 2015

TakoMan02 wrote:

Hey, Sabrillian, hi. Can you stop trying to end this debate? You're not really saying anything positive, just a bunch of negative mumbo-jumbo. I didn't make this topic for amusement, I wanted to see what people's opinions are.
For anyone that wants to know my reasoning as to why homosexuality is wrong, read the first post. Please.

I am not trying to end the debate at all. I put my effort into at least trying to explain myself a little clearly and I get your negative "mumbo-jumbo"? Can't you just stop and think about what you are saying? Perhaps I shouldn't waste my time trying to reply to people like you. :rolleyes:

RPGMaster2000 · Before February 2015

TakoMan02 wrote:

^Relgion plays no part in this discussion whatsoever. I was answering an off-topic question by 32nortonedge32 about religion.

Religion barely played a part in my post. I was talking about how discussing homosexuality on a moral plane is a waste of time.

Echo! · Before February 2015

Tako stop eating your own foot.

Jahranja · Before February 2015

I say it's wrong. You can't have children by putting a man with another man.

Tako · Before February 2015

^Like this? I have no idea what that means.

And, in all respect RPG, you may find this topic a waste of time, but I do not.

32OrtonEdge32dh · Before February 2015

So? Most people nowadays don't have sex with the intention of procreating.

Tako · Before February 2015

^Read my first post.

RPGMaster2000 · Before February 2015

TakoMan02 wrote:

^Read my first post.

I suggest you start addressing people's points instead of referring people to the first post which they at this point have most likely already read.

Echo! · Before February 2015

Takoman it me where you keep.. Ahh don't worry.. Your learn it soon

Tako · Before February 2015

I would've addressed the issue had it not been answered in my original post.

But, you have your hidden reasons for saying that which I do not wish to reveal, so I'll do that anyway.

There are two sexes for one reason and for one reason only, to reproduce. We've stretched that so much that that's not even the reason we have sex anymore. Most of the time, people have sex just for the pleasure, and don't even care about reproducing at all. We have twisted visions of sexuality because we humans do what we please despite being the right or wrong thing to do.

RPGMaster2000 · Before February 2015

TakoMan02 wrote:

We have twisted visions of sexuality because we humans do what we please despite being the right or wrong thing to do.

This is the part where you start crossing into the realms of baseless opinions. No human being has any right to judge whether or not any sexuality of any kind is "twisted" simply because it does not fit their own view of the world. What makes any human arrogant enough to assume ultimate authority over right and wrong?

Tako · Before February 2015

Well, imagine that there's an "in my opinion" before all my posts.

And what is the purpose of sexes to you, RPGMaster2000? Why is there a male and a female?

RPGMaster2000 · Before February 2015

TakoMan02 wrote:

And what is the purpose of sexes to you, RPGMaster2000? Why is there a male and a female?

In the case of our species, it is of course to reproduce. You might notice that I've never disagreed with you on this point.

However, you seem to ignore the fact that homosexuality is a very common occurrence in nature, and not just for humans either. Trying to turn this in to a debate about morals when there is literally no morality to find in nature is, in my opinion, an exercise in futility. While the true nature of homosexuality remains a mystery, scientists aren't arrogant enough to make baseless claims and label it as wrong simply because they find it a bit icky.

What people find disgusting is not a valid guide in science.

Instead of adopting a naive black and white view of the world, how about we start looking at everything from a rational standpoint that's based on logic and evidence? Labeling homosexuality as wrong is counter-productive to the human race as a whole, in my opinion. Instead of fearing what we don't understand, why don't we try to actually understand it?

32OrtonEdge32dh · Before February 2015

Yeah, I think we win. Good guys: 1, Homophobes: 0!

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