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treejoe4

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Re: Stop the EDL!

Meredith, I wrote that poorly, I meant Islam ruined that era of time.

You guys can argue all day, but the simple fact is Islam was responsible for 9/11, Islam is responsible for the war on terror, Islam is responsible for terrorist groups, Islam is responsible for many current and past conflicts.

Doesn't matter how many normal Muslims there are, the simple fact is that the group responsible for much of the conflict in the world is Islam.

I really like multiculturalism, but there is going to be a breaking point within my lifetime with Islamic immigration, so it is not good enough to adopt a hippy liberal way of thought about this religion, it's not good enough. Fact.

It wasn't Muslims who went to the Moon.

Last edited by treejoe4 (May 12 2014 12:00:00 pm)

Different55

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Re: Stop the EDL!

You continually imply if not state that I'm attacking Awesome. I'm attacking his beliefs and...

You're not, but it sure seems like it sometimes.

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...just because it's a religious belief does not mean it is invulnerable to scrutiny.

Pardon me, but "Well, duh."

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If all you're going to claim is that any source is unreliable...

Not any source. Just ones almost obsessed with the destruction of Islam. Like I said,

It's like asking the KKK for information on how black people affect the world. They're not going to have anything nice to say, are they? And it's likely that a good portion of their information is false.

And

If you want to convince someone, show where that stuff actually appears in their religious texts.

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...then I have no need to talk to you, you're someone for whom I share no respect on an intellectual level.

And there's the resentment I was talking about.

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Please grow up and stop getting offended when corrected.

The only time I got offended was here:

Could you, I don't know, grow up? This is a pointless argument and I don't see any point in continuing it. I don't need to drag myself into the argument and take a stance in order to say/see that.

And I wasn't being corrected there. I was being ridiculously parodied because I don't feel like getting into this pointless argument. You said

"Wahh! I don't feel the need to understand the situation but I don't want arguments!"

...Now why shouldn't I be offended that you're dropping your "argument" against me to such a low level?

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I'm not asking for censorship nor am I going to tell someone to 'go find a terrorist'.

Um... okay. Good for you? I don't recall asking you to either censor yourself/anyone/anything/wheredidcensorshipevencomeintothis nor tell someone to go find a terrorist. I was trying to tell you that you're barking up the wrong tree. This argument isn't accomplishing anything.

Well, crap. I've been reduced to putting separators between bits of pointless argument.

Hey, Atilla, why couldn't you put your argument together like treejoe? That's a nice argument he's got there. He didn't bash anyone or anything for idiocy/ignorance, and he listed well-known events as sources instead of people who very well could be radically anti-Islam. If the whole topic was like that, I wouldn't even be here right now, and I'd kind of like that.

Okay, treejoe before me and meredith after have made good (civil, non-hostile) arguments, so I'm going to go now unless things look bad again or if this turns into a conspiracy theory discussion because those are fun. I quote'd out my own argument so I don't detract from the current point of discussion any more than I already have now.

Last edited by Different55 (May 12 2014 1:30:24 pm)

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"Sometimes failing a leap of faith is better than inching forward"
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Cyclone or Meredith

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Re: Stop the EDL!

but the simple fact is Islam was responsible for 9/11

There are numerous facts pointing to the fact that 9/11 was an inside job.

Even if we assume that 9/11 was not an inside job, the idea/theology of Islam did not suddenly gain sentient form and bomb places. The sick twisted minds of people that committed the atrocious acts were doing it in the name of Islam. There is a subtle but distinct difference between Muslims committing these acts and an entire religion that says "lets go bomb things".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi_movement
I refer you to that link because it details that one specific sect of Islam has become an "extremist pseudo-Sunni movement" rather then the entire religion of Islam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi_mo … ontroversy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi_mo … er_Muslims

The above links are also self explanatory points.

treejoe4

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Re: Stop the EDL!

'There are numerous facts pointing to the fact that 9/11 was an inside job.'

Only facts if you are a crank

Past and present Islam has always been hateful

Fdoou

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Re: Stop the EDL!

oh my god not this 9/11 was in inside job bs please no

Cyclone or Meredith

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Re: Stop the EDL!

'There are numerous facts pointing to the fact that 9/11 was an inside job.'

Only facts if you are a crank

Past and present Islam has always been hateful

Leading scientist quote time:

"Professor Jones said it was impossible for the twin towers to have collapsed in the way they did from the collision of two aeroplanes.

He maintains jet fuel does not burn at temperatures high enough to melt steel beams and claims horizontal puffs of smoke seen during the collapse of the towers are indicative of controlled explosions used to bring down the towers"
http://www.wanttoknow.info/050908insidejob911

treejoe4

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Re: Stop the EDL!

'There are numerous facts pointing to the fact that 9/11 was an inside job.'

Only facts if you are a crank

Past and present Islam has always been hateful

Leading scientist quote time:

"Professor Jones said it was impossible for the twin towers to have collapsed in the way they did from the collision of two aeroplanes.

He maintains jet fuel does not burn at temperatures high enough to melt steel beams and claims horizontal puffs of smoke seen during the collapse of the towers are indicative of controlled explosions used to bring down the towers"
http://www.wanttoknow.info/050908insidejob911

Oh god, not another crank on this forum

The fire didn't melt the steel, it bent it

If the US government is guilty , then go protest for the muslim extremists 'framed'

Different55

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Re: Stop the EDL!

What about the fact the Osama claimed responsibility for the attacks later? And that videos were found showing that he had foreknowledge of the attacks?

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Bimps

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Re: Stop the EDL!

no let's just stop this right now

treejoe4

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Re: Stop the EDL!

no let's just stop this right now

yes if we stop the muslims now, war will be avoided

Bimps

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Re: Stop the EDL!

no let's just stop this right now

yes if we stop the muslims now, war will be avoided

good idea

Cyclone or Meredith

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Re: Stop the EDL!

no let's just stop this right now

yes if we stop the muslims now, war will be avoided

9/11 was needed because the government wanted a war when the people did not. If you look at past F.O.I released documents you can see the government has "thought" about committing acts to sway public opinion and that's only the documents that they wanted to release. We all know public opinion was altered via the press and mis-translation during the Vietnam war.

Osama claimed the attack was of his doing because it would be logical to do so, even if he hadn't done it. It just increased his profile. And that theory excludes the fact that he could have been paid.

Lets talk about the Government lies. Obama said Guantanamo Bay, it still continues to house and torture children. The amount of hypocritical statements Obama has said are incredible. Said no country would be unlawfully bombed, uses drones to kill families in the middle east. Said no country should be unlawfully occupied refuses to cut funding for Israel because he needs the bible belt vote in America. Oh yeah lets also talk about how laws from NDNA to indefinite detention have nullified the constitution.

We live in a society either dictated by the Government or Big corporations. Think about it, what is fashion dictated by, celebrities paid by big companies to wear their stuff. Pro war /army programs and films paid for by the Gov are littered on TV. Society apparently dictates what is right and wrong and forces people to conform or be rejected and those few free thinkers that oppose traditionality are shunned. The best prison is the intangible one. The one for the mind.

What makes you think the Gov wouldn't orchestrate 9/11 now, they've proven they're more than capable.

PM's are the method of communication from this post onwards till such time as I work out why this topic was locked.