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#1 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-15 22:32:06

Gg everyone! I had fun during the <12 hours I played on day 1 https://wiki.everybodyedits.com/images/c/c0/069_LOL

Pretty happy that my suspicion of minimania was right and that my other suspicion that there was a wolf among 2b/Allen/buzzer TMIing shadow (he was traitor, but was TMIed as not known to other wolves)

#2 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 15:38:55

Minimania wrote:

If I have to in order for there to be a day 1 elim then sure but this is not who I wanted to go

Post your scumreads right now

Before voting Allen

Because you had 72 hours to push people and instead your iso is empty of any sort of pushes

So I call bs and this comment could be a wolfy attempt to not catch scumreads for hammering a town

#3 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 15:33:36

No voters need to die
Allen is a no voter with scum equity

Like, is he probably town? Yes

But in a setup like this town has a limited number of chances to kill wolves. Day 1 sucked so our chances aren't great, but a small chance is better than no chance.

Vote Allen

#4 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 15:30:50

Minimania opting to sleep rather than Elim is scummy

#5 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 15:25:08

Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
ElijahBaley wrote:

Grilyon also pings my scumdar for calling me out for 'voting with little info'

I think I'd usually agree with this take, but it's impossible to tell what's going on in the mind of a new player, so I don't.

BuzzerBee wrote:

since we’re nearing the day i would like to hear who people’s main suspicion is for scum. i know it’s tough to get reads on day 1 but i think it would be helpful for everyone to give one scumread instead of being so wishy washy.

your read probably won’t be right and that’s okay, it’s just helpful information to go off, especially on future days in the game it will be useful to look back to what people said on day 1

No idea honestly.

Lumi wrote:

What the heck

Majority only?

Cringe

Lumi wrote:

I really wish I randed wolf, majority elimination in an inactive game is just a recipe for town getting snowed.

I hard claim Vanilla Town. If wolves want to get rid of me they'll have to do it knowing that they're letting all the power roles in the game do their things.

mood
also, lol

ShadowsEdge wrote:

As for now though, the reads thus far feel odd, they tread this line of providing enough information while also doing nothing to move the game forward. Basically all the reads thus far have felt like just a way to seem more towny.

This might be a culture clash given that this site usually skips day1 and solves games mechanically, but it'd be nice if you respected the process. Games need to rise off the ground with flimsy takes and reads and start.

Lumi wrote:

Ozy and MM need to deliver on Elijah's past though, or Elijah could do it if they see this post before either of those two do.

ngl, I have actual no idea how to read him, I don't remember any consistency in his playstyle, so I read him as just any random player for the most part.


Pqwerty wrote:
Lumi wrote:
Pqwerty wrote:

Hey Lumi, why are you claiming vt?

So I don't get night killed, lmao

Yeah but like, no one prompted you to claim and no one is voting for you. If you’re actually a VT you made it easier for the mafia to hunt for PRs and if you’re a VT it’s way better that you get nightkilled than a PR, unless in like the next 12 hours you become the town leader.

This just pings me as weird.

All I'm gonna say is, if I'm wolf this game, it don't matter what Lumi claims - they die, lol.

Lumi wrote:

!vote AllenCaspe9510

Time to kill a woof

Not feeling the need to expand on that is a good look imho.

Pqwerty wrote:

I think Allen gave a bunch of mediocre reads and then went back to lurking. Historically, he’s an easy D1 mischop. I don’t see Allen as the criminal mastermind yet

What about future days though? If Allen is a easy mischop for the duration of the game, still better to chop them day1 than chop nobody day1.

Lumi wrote:

Elijah should not happen today, if you scumread minimania though, that's a good place to vote

Explain please?
About Elijah, you gave nothing other than "their entrance seem they're happy to play" - an entrance which's similar to their every game entrance: say something random and vote MM.

ElijahBaley wrote:
Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
ElijahBaley wrote:

also, it isn't true that I wasn't scum hunting, I was. you can look at the posts I made regarding MM and see I had the intent to scum hunt.

When in #75 you called MM towny, but didn't call anyone else towny.
When in page2 you didn't show signs of being interested in solving 2b55, when by comparison she wants to solve you.
When in #52 your interest is in a anti-town claim, you first game interest in a time. (previous page your interest was in statistics)
When in page3 and page4 your interest is in commenting to things related to things said about you, with the exception of that 1 filler looking post about MM.
That I'm so Town post #83.
You had no post page5, but the only post page6 is again commenting on things said said about you.
Now we're here, page 7. But I look at your past and instinctively it feels like an interest in scumhunting is shown in a single digit percentile of your posts.

it does not have to be present in more than that - I don't try to force reads like you guys do. if something feels scummy to me I call it out as scummy. I don't try to make up some weird complicated story as to why someone is scum, I only call someone scum (or town) if I'm sure they are. numbers don't mean anything.

That's fair. But no reads on me, no reads on 2b55 in all that time. Only MM and BB, which looked more like joke posts ftr. It's not as easy to believe you had no reads or thoughts worth mentioning in 150 posts.
You're like a living breathing INTP meme xD

Also, you can't say I'm OMGUSSING you when you've made no read on me. //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/neutral

ElijahBaley wrote:
Minimania wrote:

I didn't think I had to actually come out and say this but I was mostly sus of Pqwerty because I thought he was bating us as a Serial Killer. I'm not sus on him anymore at all, besides the base level sus I have for everyone.

the focus on serial killer can come from Mafia, nobody else is sitting here hunting for some neutral killer apart from Minimania. sus much?

I'm even going to go further than that and suggest that they could be traitor, traitor has no teammates and can easily die to Serial Killer //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile

What do you think of the idea that a Mafia is more likely to be aware of there being no 3rd party?


/short break
!vote Allen

Nothing to elaborate on Elijah, didn't know it was mag
I take back the town read since it's probably just nai, but don't want to kill day 1

#6 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 15:03:21

This EoD time is so bad, morning for anyone in the US
I think Allen is better than minimania atp

#7 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 15:01:47

ElijahBaley wrote:
Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
Lumi wrote:

@Marshmallow Marshall
@Nuclear Gandhi

How do you two know ElijahBaley?

Do I know ElijahBaley under some other name?

That'd be Oberon. Maybe.. he had other names as well.
Imagine you thinking we're in cahoots with the Elijah who's the only player that has played in MU Champs on illegal hydras multiple years in a row https://wiki.everybodyedits.com/images/c/c0/069_LOL
This's not him.


Lumi wrote:

Grilyon2 is town as well, he town-slipped here:

Missed that. Though I wouldn't hold much stock into it, it's 48h in the game and that's their first serious post (other than 1 sentence about Elijah). Could be coached from wolf chat.

By comparison, where minimania showed they think there there's a 3p - that's a more realistic slip due to it happening in a heated moment. What did you make of that slip btw? (Assuming you didn't comment on it)


Lumi wrote:

Nuclear Gandhi is polarized

And just in his town meta. Like, literal shield this slot all the way until F3 town meta. EZ read

This can't be objective.
Even I don't know how I'd be as wolf once I finally will get it.

Be back a bit later.
I'll probably vote minimania for the hopes of any elimination though.

Yes I'm the man of a trillion names:

Ganelon, Magoroth, Benedict, BenedictBarimen, Tolbooth, and probably some others I'm forgetting

OH.

Ya I don't think this slot is so easy to town read but still never kill day 1 here imo

#8 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 05:42:13

@Grilyon2

Vote your choice of Minimania or AllenCaspe

I see you lurking - pqwerty isn't happening today ever, and not eliminating on day 1 is very bad

#9 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 05:05:21

Pqwerty wrote:

Also Lumi I’m still really confused about the VT claim. You were MIA like most of the day so do you really think you were enough of a potential NK target to warrant a random claim? I mean you said so yourself that an inactive town mixed with majority will be it’s downfall. If you think this is the mafia’s winning strategy then shouldn’t the mafia keep the inactive players (you, until now) alive?

I don’t know why I’m so hung up on this so I should probably look into other people before I start tunneling/hyperfixating.

I was busy. And now I'm here and am already top poster with almost every single one of my posts having actual content with almost zero filler leading town on who we're going to chop today.

Like you said, did I think I would become town leader in the last 12 hours of the day? The answer is yes.


But ya you should focus elsewhere for now - it would be absolutely insane to chop me today, and I think you can probably follow along with my arguments for pushes - if you have questions I can explain any reads I have in detail.

You don't need to townread me to see the validity of my scumreads

#10 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 04:59:00

Speaking of which

@Marshmallow Marshall
@Nuclear Gandhi

Defend your scumread on Elijah to me

#11 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 04:58:27

2b55b5g wrote:
Lumi wrote:

Scumreads, what are yours?

honestly i don’t really have scumreads, since most of my reads so far are townreads.

i used to scumread Grilyon but he’s new, and his explanation made sense to me, aside from not voting because of a counterproductive vote, even though he had a suspect in mind, but i assume that he was too afraid to vote

also i just briefly backreaded, and Elijah seems like the most suspicious person to me. i still don’t see how he has the intent the scumhunt, because most of his posts are just fillers imo (aside from the traitor stuff, but it’s still not scumhunting). i also don’t like his scumread (i think?) on Grilyon, seems like he ignored that Grilyon is new. (though admittedly i probably made that mistake as well)

Minimania is also kinda weird to me, in earlier posts he was kinda active, but later his activity just dropped, still confused why he unvoted Pqwerty because he still seems to be kinda suspicious of him


i’d prefer voting Elijah instead of Allen, idk, Allen’s reads were kinda weird and somewhat confusing, but i find Elijah to be more scummy. some people voted Elijah as well, so i don’t really see why we’re going with Allen

Elijah should not happen today, if you scumread minimania though, that's a good place to vote

#12 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 04:40:08

The EoD time being 4:47 PM rather than something normal like an even hourly time like 5 PM amuses me more than it should

#13 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 04:38:29

Pqwerty wrote:

Mini was the host of most of the games I’ve played here so I don’t have any meta really.

Why do you scumread him then?

#14 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 04:34:48

Pqwerty wrote:

If I had to say who I think the scum are, I’d say Mini is my top suspicion.

Mini is a decent choice - you probably know mini's meta better than I do, has he done anything AI meta-wise?

#15 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 04:33:21

Pqwerty wrote:

Wait how’d you go from agreeing with me that ShadowsEdge isn’t giving any reads to ShadowsEdge is town?

His posts lately are townie. He seems totally fine with just letting me lead without a conditionality to it of only liking me for pushing a particular player - in fact he's the one who got the vote on Allen before I did. Wolves generally don't see a confident town and then go "ya let's just sheep them before they've posted a read on me" - like that second part is critically important - ShadowsEdge came to the conclusion that I'm likely just town before I actually stated my read. I suppose he could have inferred it from me agreeing with his vote, but it's wolves get spooked at the idea of sheeping a leader type player that could then turn on them because they haven't actually stated a read on them yet.

He also liked my post earlier about me pointing out that people were townreading him despite him  not actually having made any real substantive reads yet - soft unpairs him with those three and there's a decent enough chance that there is a wolf among that grouping >rand at the very least.

#16 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 04:22:24

Pqwerty wrote:

I think Allen gave a bunch of mediocre reads and then went back to lurking. Historically, he’s an easy D1 mischop. I don’t see Allen as the criminal mastermind yet

Let's talk about who you think are scum then.

No-elim on day 1 is absolutely not an option.

And because we're playing majority only, we really need to form the wagon early in order to have enough for a wagon to actually reach majority.
You're town, I'm town, ShadowsEdge is townie.

That's 3 votes, a good start towards wagoning whomever we want right now.

#17 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 04:17:49

Pqwerty wrote:
Lumi wrote:
Pqwerty wrote:

Hey Lumi, why are you claiming vt?

So I don't get night killed, lmao

Also what fear does a VT have for being nightkilled? It’s definitely a less useful role than like a PR

Ok, I normally don't like to brag - but I will because I think it will help you solve the game.
I get killed night 1 a lot
In the MU Championships I got killed night 1 in a massively stacked playerlist and then have advanced to the finals just two points short of being the town with the most points.

If wolves decide to leave me alive to late game, they're going to have a bad time, this is my attempt to get to play a day 2 after seeing a threadstate completely devoid of leadership barreling straight towards a horrible no-elimination on day 1.

#18 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 04:14:46

Pqwerty wrote:
Lumi wrote:
Pqwerty wrote:

Hey Lumi, why are you claiming vt?

So I don't get night killed, lmao

Yeah but like, no one prompted you to claim and no one is voting for you. If you’re actually a VT you made it easier for the mafia to hunt for PRs and if you’re a VT it’s way better that you get nightkilled than a PR, unless in like the next 12 hours you become the town leader.

This just pings me as weird.

Getting killed night 1 is a hobby of mine.

What do you think of Allen?

#19 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 04:13:17

!vote AllenCaspe9510

Time to kill a woof

#20 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 04:05:33

Pqwerty wrote:

Hey Lumi, why are you claiming vt?

So I don't get night killed, lmao

#21 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 04:04:11

2b55b5g wrote:
Lumi wrote:

@2b55b5g

Stupid forum won't let me quote your post, so this is about your reads list.





The heck? You like Shadow so far for his reads???

He's made like ZERO reads and the stuff he has said was hedged to hell

What actual read of his did you even like?

i liked his take on Pqwerty being anti-town, cuz it did make me more certain that Pqwerty isn’t lying about it. i also agreed that Grilyon was off-putting.

though i backread his posts again and i do realize that the things i liked aren’t really reads, but more so thoughts on what’s currently happening, or just strategy stuff. i tend to confuse observations/thoughts as reads, so that was a mistake.

Scumreads, what are yours?

#22 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 03:35:43

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Not hiding, just rereading the thread as I mentioned before, I only briefly read it (or at least I think I mentioned that in my last post)

Let me know when you're caught up

#23 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 03:32:22

ShadowsEdge reacted to my post but isn't posting.

Come out and post, stop hiding

#24 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 03:30:59

I really wish I randed wolf, majority elimination in an inactive game is just a recipe for town getting snowed.

I hard claim Vanilla Town. If wolves want to get rid of me they'll have to do it knowing that they're letting all the power roles in the game do their things.

#25 Re: Forum Games » Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER) » 2022-09-02 03:29:35

I don't know what the heck Minimania is doing right now, I thought his aggressive push was townie, but then he just immediately recanted it and gave up. No towncred there.

Also onjit and BigBonJovi seriously need to do something this game

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