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MrJaWapa wrote:

XxAtillaxX wrote:

I'm very well capable of having an argument, participating in the educational system isn't a requirement for having knowledge and reasoning skills.

I didn't say you couldn't argue anything. You have a bad habit of putting words in peoples' mouths.

When you are making a statement like, "> dropped out of high school", I as well as anyone, know exactly what your remarks entail.
You should keep the pathetic petty insults to the roasting topic rather than trying to inflate your ego, which, may I add, isn't much to begin with.

▼A summary of my decision beyond the "I dropped out of high school" statement I had made on IRC.

I had dropped out of high school out of dislike of mandatory education, and I had skipped the first year of kindergarten. I've always disliked it from the very beginning.
It hasn't had the slightest of impediments on my life, as I'm very much capable of showing my success as an individual without a certificate of participation.

I've recently, despite this, within the last year, had my knowledge and logical reasoning skills evaluated, with results showing my adequacy  no less than the 11-12th grade range.
If my mother would have accepted my middle-schools offer to elevate me to grade 7 from grade 3, I would have likely graduated as there'd be less time spent and wasted on my part.

On the other hand, I'm sure you'll be incredibly successful with your art degree.
I'd recommend not thinking too highly of oneself so prematurely.

MrJaWapa wrote:

XxAtillaxX wrote:

If you are brain-dead, you are de-facto clinically dead.
The term clinical death does not have a consistent meaning, and until the 1950s was used when any of the vital organs failed, as death shortly followed.

Well, Atilla, it's way after the 1950s and those words do have consistent definitions.

As is evident, there's disagreement upon what constitutes life and death.
When it comes to clinical death, it's very much possible to have neural activity despite having no white matter in the cerebral cortex, which means you're essentially in a permanent vegetative state.

MrJaWapa wrote:

XxAtillaxX wrote:

I'm very open to evidence to the contrary, and none has been provided.

XxAtillaxX wrote:

these morons should be mocked and ridiculed, not treated as intellectuals.

oh yeah, totally open... like a barn door.

"Grow up."
That's really irrelevant to anything I said, but yeah... I could make you eat those words.

If they were to provide any evidence beyond their religious philosophies for their claims then they wouldn't be mocked.
And again, keep the petty insults to the roasting topic; nobody cares how highly you think of yourself, nor does flaming/direct insults belong in this topic.

Yandax wrote:

@Swarth The baby's already alive, so the parent(s) would (probably) decided to go through with the pregnancy. Another way to look at it would be: Would you just kill a house pet because it cost you money?   Probably not the best way to put it, but hey, I'm trash with comparisons. It's already alive, it has a future and will eventually become a sentient being, if it isn't already one. (A approach I decided would be stupid: Well, if neural activity isn't relevant, I could just shoot ya in yer sleep. Nothing wrong with that, is there?)

@Atilla: I don't mean to offend you, but I generally don't agree with you. I will, however, agree with you on one thing. This isn't a debate anymore. It's just you telling us "You're stupid, your opinion doesn't matter, and you should go take a hike and find your brain." You generally refuse to let anyone even have a say in anything. Instead of debating, you just brush it off as "unscientific" and go on your way. If morons' opinions shouldn't be defended, then nobody's should, because everyones view of everything is relative. Rest assured, I will most likely post a post with actual content and stuff you could debate against, so you can laugh at me TWICE!

It isn't of any offense to me for someone to have unscientific reasoning.
I draw the line as soon as you attempt to force your unscientific beliefs upon the systems which affect everyone, including those who do not share your beliefs.

"everyones view of everything is relative."
There is such thing as objective reality and those who wish to neglect it forfeit their opinions being considered credible.

There is no equivalency between a zygote and a house pet, nor an insect, nor anything that a reasonable person would qualify as living.
Additionally, your analogy is absurd because there is neural activity when you are sleeping - you typically don't die when you sleep, amazing right?