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#76 2021-05-07 12:12:14
Re: Mafia 50 - Rise of the Phoenixborn Game Thread [VAMP/WITCH WIN]
It was explained in whispers and said the same thing.
I've been avoiding too much conversation
???
You haven't explained anything to me. You've been giving me vague answers or ignoring questions entirely.
So I just wait for luck to shine on me and yea.
Lmao what
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#77 2021-05-08 14:50:54
Re: Mafia 50 - Rise of the Phoenixborn Game Thread [VAMP/WITCH WIN]
You're kidding me right? 2B, it can't be anymore obvious.
He is REFUSING to role claim or come off of any information.
2B you can't possibly be this bad at mafia...
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#79 2021-05-08 15:40:04
Re: Mafia 50 - Rise of the Phoenixborn Game Thread [VAMP/WITCH WIN]
Anyway, actual any% glitchless mafia50 win WR incoming.
Except it's not if you lynch me.
It's like you are intentionally ignoring important details. You're pedaling an idea that doesn't make sense, and is based entirely on an extremely unlikely event.
The game is 2 town vs 2 evil vs 1 neutral.
I thought lynching Allen was the obvious thing for the town to do, but I guess not. Either that or 2B is game throwing. Either way, I don't care because...
Orton, Allen - want to lynch 2B? Three votes for majority. All three of us get a win.
This chat is just whispers. It sounds sad
It's a neat addition, but I'm glad it hasn't been in every game.
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#80 2021-05-08 15:43:47
Re: Mafia 50 - Rise of the Phoenixborn Game Thread [VAMP/WITCH WIN]
So are you admitting being evil now for trying to team up with Orton
No, but as the survivor I don't need to team with the town.
Since you're being a smooth brain, I can team with them and win instead.
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#81 2021-05-08 15:58:22
Re: Mafia 50 - Rise of the Phoenixborn Game Thread [VAMP/WITCH WIN]
I know Allen isn’t.
No... you don't...
The only thing your town read of Allen rides on is an unlikely event that requires Orton to play like he has no idea what's going on.
I literally tried to keep you from being killed/converted with a dumb role claim. And I was willing to lynch orton when diff outed him as the witch.
Jawapa will kill you if you lynch me, it’s guaranteed.
The game is over if a town is lynched today. It will be 1 town vs 2 evil vs 1 neutral.
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#84 2021-05-08 16:10:40
Re: Mafia 50 - Rise of the Phoenixborn Game Thread [VAMP/WITCH WIN]
Allen told me.
Right, allen hasn't lied so far. Why would he lie now?
I don’t think you understand
I think you're really bad at reading people. And I think Allen is pulling some noob plays and you're falling for them.
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#86 2021-05-08 16:18:44
Re: Mafia 50 - Rise of the Phoenixborn Game Thread [VAMP/WITCH WIN]
..............
You can't be serious
Think about what you just said.
Unless Orton and Allen cooperated for some reason and lied to me
You mean... what if THE WITCH cooperated with THE MAFIA???
What a bizarre thing to think. Why would two evil factions team up and lie to the town?
I was never town to begin with
Then what are you?
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#89 2021-05-08 17:25:18
Re: Mafia 50 - Rise of the Phoenixborn Game Thread [VAMP/WITCH WIN]
Why would Orton cooperate with me if he was already cooperating with Allen though.
You're confusing cooperation with manipulation.
Why would orton cooperate with you at all if he thought you were town? Orton cooperating with the town is almost game throwing.
He's lying to you so you believe Allen is town.
If I lynched you and you're actually a Survivor, I'd be dead for sure.
If you lynch me, there won't be anymore deaths. The game would be over. It's an auto mafia win, since there is no way for town to win.
Orton even suggested me to not lynch today.
Couldn't possibly be that he doesn't want to risk Allen being lynched. Orton needs Allen alive to win. Orton can't win with the town.
2 evil, 2 town, 1 neutral
No lynch today, Allen kills you or exo
2 evil, 1 town, 1 neutral
Mafia/witch/survivor win
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#90 2021-05-08 17:57:10
Re: Mafia 50 - Rise of the Phoenixborn Game Thread [VAMP/WITCH WIN]
Tell me why Orton would stop me from lynching.
Not lynching always benefits the mafia
the outcome Orton would most likely want is for me to not lynch mafia, making it 2v1v1, mafia kills a vamp, and I'd lose.
If you're not **** with me about the vampire thing, then yes. At least you understand that part.
He knew I was already planning to lynch you, so why stop me if Allen is mafia?
Because no lynching always benefits the mafia. It's safe for them, especially now when Allen looks sus and there's a chance you and exo flip their votes.
Your logic is based on me and Exco being town, but we're not.
Ehh, not really. It's based on you and exo being on the same team. I wasn't expecting you to be vampires, but it doesn't really matter.
Lynching Allen today still gives you a win.
It would be 2 vampires vs 1 survivor vs 1 witch
Vampires and survivor win
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#91 2021-05-08 18:18:38
Re: Mafia 50 - Rise of the Phoenixborn Game Thread [VAMP/WITCH WIN]
Witch doesn't know if Mafia will betray
The mafia can win with the witch, but not vampires. So, it's safe to say the mafia won't betray him, unless they are on a suicide mission.
Maybe he's trying to play safe, but it's gonna be 1v1v1v1 if nolynch happens today, since mafia will definitely kill a vamp. Majority is 50% + 1, if the next day another vamp is lynched, it's still 1v1v1
2 vamps, 1 witch, 1 surv, 1 maf
No lynch today, maf kill a vamp
1 vamp, 1 witch, 1 surv, 1 maf
Vamp, witch, and survivor can all win together and lynch the last maf for a win.
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2 vamps, 1 witch, 1 surv, 1 maf
lynch maf today
vamps, witch, and surv win
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2 vamps, 1 witch, 1 surv, 1 maf
lynch surv today, maf kills a vamp
1 vamp, 1 witch, 1 maf
The witch decides who wins
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#92 2021-05-08 18:47:01
Re: Mafia 50 - Rise of the Phoenixborn Game Thread [VAMP/WITCH WIN]
Literally what's the point for the Witch to team up with mafia
Uncertainty that vampires exist. We all know there is a mafia faction.
Orton has to play it safe to win. If he forces a decision, and is wrong, he loses.
You are being very obtuse. You're forgetting that this is a game about misleading and lying, and you're believing things people tell you, even if they don't make relative sense.
!whisper
!whisper
!whisper
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#93 2021-05-08 19:55:57
Re: Mafia 50 - Rise of the Phoenixborn Game Thread [VAMP/WITCH WIN]
I got some clarification from mini, and if I'm understanding this correctly, the outcomes are a bit different from what I originally thought.
2 vamps, 1 witch, 1 surv, 1 maf
No lynch today, maf kill a vamp
1 vamp, 1 witch, 1 surv, 1 maf
Vamp, witch, and survivor can all win together and lynch the last maf for a win.
Actually, if the vamp, witch, and survivor lynched maf, no one would hold a majority, and a majority could still be formed for a lynch. It would be 1 vamp vs 1 witch vs 1 survivor. Either the vamp and surv wins, or the vamp and witch wins.
The witch could also decide to team with the mafia, and lynch the last vampire. Making it 1 maf vs 1 surv vs 1 witch. Either the mafia and surv win, or the mafia and witch win.
2 vamps, 1 witch, 1 surv, 1 maf
lynch maf today
vamps, witch, and surv win
This is wrong, because the vampires wouldn't hold majority, and a majority could still be formed to lynch someone. So the win would actually be either vamps and survivor, or vamps and witch.
2 vamps, 1 witch, 1 surv, 1 maf
lynch surv today, maf kills a vamp
1 vamp, 1 witch, 1 maf
The witch decides who wins
Either witch and mafia win, or witch and vampire win.
Unless for some stupid reason the vamp/mafia lynch the witch, and the mafia then night kill the vamp and mafia wins.
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#94 2021-05-08 21:31:32
Re: Mafia 50 - Rise of the Phoenixborn Game Thread [VAMP/WITCH WIN]
Not true. A Vamp, Survivor, and Witch can all win together. . .
Ohhh okay, sorry. I misunderstood.
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at least Allen kinda has proof that he's Monster Slayer.
How does he have any more proof that he's a monster slayer than I do as survivor, or you do as a vampire?
there's a one hour gap, if he agrees with Orton, he should've whispered me that he is Cookies right after that.
Are you implying that anything Allen has done this game has made any sense?
Post #392, Orton whispered, probably responding to you. If that was to respond Allen, you probably would've called him out.
Post #401, another whisper from Orton, again I assume he's whispering to you
He was responding to me. I sent him a message asking if he was the witch. He said yes and there was no point in denying it.
I told him I was the survivor and asked about what info he had. He asked how he could trust me, especially since I was willing to lynch him. I told him it made no difference what I was since we had a investigative role call him out, and it didn't matter if he admitted anything to me or not.
Then, like I did with you and Task, I talked about what I thought the game setup was.
Then I made offers to send him feet pics.
Post #406 and #407 were probably both of you whispering each other.
My whisper was to you, when I told you I called Task out for not killing Orton, and thought he might actually be the photographer.
Orton's whisper was to me, that's when he told me what info he had.
Post #416 and #417, Task whispered me and someone else. I assume you.
Yes, this is when he told me Allen claimed jester.
Post #440 to #443 are probably you and Task whispering each other.
#440 - Task is not whispering to me
#441 - Task role claimed to me and told me why orton was not dead
#442 - I whispered task telling him that some things made more sense now
#443 - I messaged Allen asking if he was the jester.
Post #475, Allen whispered me and someone else, probably you.
Was not me
Post #478, you probably whispered Allen about him fakeclaiming as Jester.
Yes
Post #489, you whispered someone.
I whispered Exo telling him hi, and offered him feet pics.
Post #511, Allen whispered to me, said that Task claimed Vet.
Task told me that he hadn't claimed to anyone except Exo.
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#98 2021-05-09 23:13:35
Re: Mafia 50 - Rise of the Phoenixborn Game Thread [VAMP/WITCH WIN]
witch mvp
Agree 100%
Some how he managed to win after being outted as the witch on D2(?)
Orton had a lot of control over who won. I couldn't believe he sent the monster slayer to the cookie at a pivotal moment in the game lmao
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#100 2021-05-10 03:37:46
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